A.I. Backlash Turns Violent + Kara Swisher on Healthmaxxing + The Zuck Bot Is Coming
This week, amid violent attacks on the homes of the OpenAI chief executive Sam Altman and the Indianapolis councilman Ron Gibson, we debate why artificial intelligence and data centers are so unpopular. Then, Kara Swisher returns to the show to discuss her new docuseries on Silicon Valley’s obsession with living longer. And finally, can chief executives replace themselves with A.I.? Mark Zuckerberg seems to be trying.
Guests:
Kara Swisher, tech journalist and host of the podcasts “Pivot” and “On With Kara Swisher.”
Additional Reading:
Shots Fired at Indianapolis Councilman’s Home, After Vote Backing Data Center
Man Held in Attack on OpenAI Chief’s Home Had List of A.I. Leaders, Officials Say
Kara Swisher Wants to Live Forever
Meta Builds A.I. Version of Mark Zuckerberg to Interact With Staff
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Why the Rich Want to Live Forever — with Kara Swisher
Kara Swisher joins Scott Galloway to discuss her new CNN Original Series Kara Swisher Wants to Live Forever — and what she uncovered about the billion-dollar longevity industry.
They explore why tech elites are obsessed with living forever, how trends like peptides and biohacking took off, and why most of it is noise.
Plus, what actually works: the simple, unsexy factors that matter most for living longer, and why wealth and access may be the biggest advantages of all.
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Kara Swisher takes on big tech, from Apple to Nvidia
Can ChatGPT dethrone Gemini? Is Tim Cook capable of leading Apple into the next wave of AI? As 2025 winds down, journalist and podcast host Kara Swisher joins Rapid Response to cut through the noise and decode what’s really happening across OpenAI, Meta, Google, and more. Swisher also sizes up the state of Disney, Netflix, and the escalating bidding war for Warner Bros. Discovery. And in classic Swisher fashion, she doesn’t hold back — weighing in on Elon Musk’s eye-popping potential pay package, Mark Zuckerberg’s costly misfires at Meta, and what the future of AI means for human health and cognition.
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Sunday Pick: Kara Swisher | Design Matters
Tech journalist, opinion leader, and disruptor—Kara Swisher has hosted hundreds of newsmaking interviews tracking tech and media's changing power dynamics, often going head-to-head with the most prominent figures in the technology industry. She joins a live studio audience to talk about her inimitable career covering the ever-evolving world of technology.
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Kara Swisher Rates Tech Leaders — With Kara Swisher
Kara Swisher is the author of Burn Book and host of the Pivot and On With Kara Swisher. Swisher joins Big Technology to discuss the latest tech news and share her opinion of the nature of tech leaders. We discuss Marc Andreessen, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Sundar Pichai, Tim Cook, Andy Jassy, Satya Nadella, Sam Altman, and Mark Cuban. Then we examine the nature of a great leader's personality, how much luck vs. skill plays a role in success, the impact of having lots of money. And plenty more, including how journalism and media move forward today. Enjoy!
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Gemini's Culture War + Kara Swisher Burns Us + SCOTUS Takes Up Content Moderation
Warning: This episode contains strong language.
Google removed the ability to generate images of people from its Gemini chatbot. We talk about why, and about the brewing culture war over artificial intelligence. Then, did Kara Swisher start “Hard Fork”? We clear up some podcast drama and ask about her new book, “Burn Book.” And finally, the legal expert Daphne Keller tells us how the U.S. Supreme Court might rule on the most important First Amendment cases of the internet era, and what Star Trek and soy boys have to do with it.
Today’s guests:
Kara Swisher, tech journalist and Casey Newton’s former landlord
Daphne Keller, director of the program on platform regulation at Stanford University’s Cyber Policy Center
Additional Reading:
Google CEO calls AI tool’s controversial responses ‘completely unacceptable’
Kara Swisher Is Not Here to Make Friends in Her New Memoir
Burn Book: A Tech Love Story by Kara Swisher
Daphne Keller’s FAQs About the NetChoice Cases at the Supreme Court
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EP 47: Kara Swisher (Founder, Recode) - Tech journalist and podcaster on the evolution of the tech industry, Propaganda vs Journalism, Elon & Who Should Run Twitter
In the 47th episode journalist and host of the Pivot podcast, Kara Swisher joins to discuss the changes in tech and founders from when she started vs today. Plus the art of interviewing, propaganda vs journalism, the importance of being true to yourself and not caring what people think.
(0:00) Introducing Kara Swisher
(1:33) Tech industry now vs the past
(10:24) Kara’s podcasting history
(13:28) On Dolly Parton
(16:37) Not caring what people think
(18:48) Art to interviewing
(25:10) Elon & who should run twitter
(29:51) San Francisco
(32:00) Tech’s role in future generations
(34:54) Succession
(41:03) Silicon Valley and other TV
(45:53) Fraud
(50:15) Media is a hard business
(51:58) Seppic/Biohacking
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Produced: Andrew Nadeau and Rashad Assir
Executive Producer: Josh Machiz
Music: Griff Lawson
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A Saturday morning podcast hosted by Logan Bartlett (Partner and Managing Director at Redpoint Ventures) covering the tech news with his friends and other people with industry expertise.
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Crypto Scams, Big Tech Tumult, and Tech Optimism— With Kara Swisher
Kara Swisher is the co-founder of Recode, a New York Times columnist, the co-host of Pivot, and the host of Sway. She joins BigTechnology Podcast for a special edition tackling the biggest tech headlines, her major career decisions, and reasons to be optimistic about technology.
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Kara Swisher on Silicon Valley’s lack of competition
Recode editor-at-large Kara Swisher joins Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel to discuss the possibilities of breaking up big tech companies like Google, Apple, Facebook, and Amazon. Kara also explains how the dominance of these four giant companies harms competition and innovation in Silicon Valley and why tech companies should be doing more to help.
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Season 3, Episode 4: Recode (with Kara Swisher)
In this special episode Ben & David head to Recode’s SF office and sit down in the red chair with the one & only Kara Swisher! Kara tells the story of Recode, from the beginnings of her partnership with Walt Mossberg in the late 90’s at WSJ to the launch of the D Conference and the All Things D blog, to starting Recode and ultimately being acquired by Vox Media in 2015. Kara is someone we’ve long looked up to at Acquired, and it was really special to have her join us on the show. We hope you enjoy the conversation as much as we did!
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Recode's Kara Swisher, AT&T - Time Warner, and IGTV
Instagram announced on Wednesday a standalone app called IGTV, a place for watching long-form vertical video. Casey and Ashely — who went to Instagram’s event that announced the app — talk with Nilay, Dieter, and Paul about their initial feelings about the platform and predict how it will fit into the social mediasphere.
Also, Nilay Patel sits down with Kara Swisher to talk about the recent AT&T and Time Warner merger. Kara published a book in 2003 about the AOL and Time Warner merger There Must Be a Pony in Here Somewhere (the merger split off in 2009) so the two discuss the similarities and differences between the two mergers and what they can potentially mean when distribution companies own content.
There’s a whole lot more in between that — like Paul’s weekly segment (now up for sale) “Shaavoop” — so listen to it all and you’ll get it all.
01:54 - Instagram announces IGTV, a standalone app for longer videos
19:33 - AT&T launches new WatchTV streaming service at aggressive $15-per-month price
27:26 - Tinder parent company buys anti-Tinder dating app Hinge
35:51 - Kara Swisher talks AT&T - Time Warner merger
1:07:12 - Paul’s weekly segment “Shaavoop”
1:11:51 - What happens if Apple loses its Supreme Court App Store antitrust appeal?
1:19:27 - Apple’s AirPower charging mat rumored to ship in September following ‘technical hurdles’
1:19:48 - Apple and Oprah are teaming up to make videos
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#218: The Most Feared and Well-Liked Journalist in Silicon Valley - Kara Swisher
Kara Swisher (@karaswisher) has been called "Silicon Valley's most feared and well-liked journalist" by New York Magazine. Here's just one example: you can graph the impact on Yahoo's stock price by various posts by Kara. That's just the tip of the iceberg. She attended Georgetown's School of Foreign Service prior to changing course to journalism. It turns out many of the skills that would make a good spy are those that make a good journalist: developing sources, asking good questions, scenario planning, and much more. She forged her reputation at the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal, and now she spends the majority of her time as Executive Editor of Recode and the host of the Recode Decode podcast. Over the last 11 years and alongside Walt Mossberg, she has also co-produced D: All Things Digital, a major high-tech conference with interviewees such as Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and many other leading players in the tech and media industries. In this podcast episode, she and I cover a lot of subjects, enjoy quite a few laughs, and dig into details you can readily apply and test yourself. Topics include: The art and craft of good questions Lessons learned and favorite moments from interviewing Steve Jobs What separates good from great journalists War stories, missed opportunities, and "optimistic pessimism" I hope that you enjoy this episode with Kara Swisher! Show notes and links for this episode can be found at www.fourhourworkweek.com/podcast. This podcast is brought to you by Athletic Greens. I get asked all the time, "If you could only use one supplement, what would it be?" My answer is, inevitably, Athletic Greens. It is my all-in-one nutritional insurance. I recommended it in The 4-Hour Body and did not get paid to do so. Listeners of The Tim Ferriss Show get $100 worth of travel packs for free when placing an order -- that's twenty free additional travel pouches -- at AthleticGreens.com/Tim. This podcast is also brought to you by MeUndies. Does this year’s Valentine’s Day have you stumped? Skip the cliches and give a gift that looks great, feels amazing, and makes everybody happy: MeUndies. MeUndies knows that your special someone deserves a special fabric, which is why their underwear is made exclusively out of MicroModal, a fabric three times softer than cotton. I’ve spent the last six months wearing underwear from these guys 24/7, and they are the most comfortable and colorful underwear I’ve ever owned. If you don’t love your first pair of MeUndies, they’ll hook you up with a new pair or a refund. They offer free shipping and, for a limited time, listeners get 20% off their first order. Just go to MeUndies.com/tim. That’s MeUndies.com/tim.
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Season 3
Vergecast is back! But something is different…Dieter moved to San Francisco and Nilay is still in New York City. How can they make it work? This is the future and we can chat in cyberspace, that's how. Using ~technology~ we also patch in Paul Miller and Lauren Goode for a special State of Tech discussion.
Wait! There's more! Nilay interviews Kara Swisher, executive editor of Recode, to talk about what's to come with this year's mammoth guest lineup at the Code Conference.
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25:55 - Paul’s gadget of the week
31.12 - Nilay and Dieter’s car trouble
41:31 - interview with Kara Swisher
52:23 - lightning round
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