In a challenging decade for media, New York Times President and CEO Meredith Kopit Levien and Vox Media CEO Jim Bankoff have bucked trends and found ways to grow their respective organizations. Meredith has overseen a massive expansion of the Times’ digital subscriber base since becoming CEO in 2020. And after spending decades scaling up Vox Media, Jim is splitting the company between James Murdoch's Lupa Systems and Penske Media Corporation.
In a live interview recorded at the Cannes Lions International Festival of Creativity in Cannes, France, Kara talks to Jim and Meredith about how they’ve adapted to a changing media landscape and the effects of AI on the publishing business. They also talk about the importance of independent journalism, the waning public trust in media, and how news organizations can earn it back.
(A note to listeners: Vox Media is the parent company of the Vox Media Podcast Network, which produces “On with Kara Swisher.”)
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Political journalist Astead Herndon is using his new Vox podcast America, Actually with Astead Herndon to ask what feels like an unfathomable question: What does our country look like after President Trump; and can we even talk about politics without putting him at the center?
As we head towards its first truly open presidential election since 2016, Kara and Astead talk about the ways politics has changed in the last decade, and what it takes to attract voters today. They discuss the growing disillusionment and splintering amongst Trump’s base and toss around predictions about who might in the GOP be in line to replace him. And they analyze the structural impediments that could blunt a Democratic wave in the midterms and beyond.
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This week, amid violent attacks on the homes of the OpenAI chief executive Sam Altman and the Indianapolis councilman Ron Gibson, we debate why artificial intelligence and data centers are so unpopular. Then, Kara Swisher returns to the show to discuss her new docuseries on Silicon Valley’s obsession with living longer. And finally, can chief executives replace themselves with A.I.? Mark Zuckerberg seems to be trying.
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Kara Swisher, tech journalist and host of the podcasts “Pivot” and “On With Kara Swisher.”
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Shots Fired at Indianapolis Councilman’s Home, After Vote Backing Data Center
Man Held in Attack on OpenAI Chief’s Home Had List of A.I. Leaders, Officials Say
Kara Swisher Wants to Live Forever
Meta Builds A.I. Version of Mark Zuckerberg to Interact With Staff
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Kara Swisher joins Scott Galloway to discuss her new CNN Original Series Kara Swisher Wants to Live Forever — and what she uncovered about the billion-dollar longevity industry.
They explore why tech elites are obsessed with living forever, how trends like peptides and biohacking took off, and why most of it is noise.
Plus, what actually works: the simple, unsexy factors that matter most for living longer, and why wealth and access may be the biggest advantages of all.
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Can ChatGPT dethrone Gemini? Is Tim Cook capable of leading Apple into the next wave of AI? As 2025 winds down, journalist and podcast host Kara Swisher joins Rapid Response to cut through the noise and decode what’s really happening across OpenAI, Meta, Google, and more. Swisher also sizes up the state of Disney, Netflix, and the escalating bidding war for Warner Bros. Discovery. And in classic Swisher fashion, she doesn’t hold back — weighing in on Elon Musk’s eye-popping potential pay package, Mark Zuckerberg’s costly misfires at Meta, and what the future of AI means for human health and cognition.
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Tech journalist, opinion leader, and disruptor—Kara Swisher has hosted hundreds of newsmaking interviews tracking tech and media's changing power dynamics, often going head-to-head with the most prominent figures in the technology industry. She joins a live studio audience to talk about her inimitable career covering the ever-evolving world of technology.
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Kara Swisher is the author of Burn Book and host of the Pivot and On With Kara Swisher. Swisher joins Big Technology to discuss the latest tech news and share her opinion of the nature of tech leaders. We discuss Marc Andreessen, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Sundar Pichai, Tim Cook, Andy Jassy, Satya Nadella, Sam Altman, and Mark Cuban. Then we examine the nature of a great leader's personality, how much luck vs. skill plays a role in success, the impact of having lots of money. And plenty more, including how journalism and media move forward today. Enjoy!
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Google removed the ability to generate images of people from its Gemini chatbot. We talk about why, and about the brewing culture war over artificial intelligence. Then, did Kara Swisher start “Hard Fork”? We clear up some podcast drama and ask about her new book, “Burn Book.” And finally, the legal expert Daphne Keller tells us how the U.S. Supreme Court might rule on the most important First Amendment cases of the internet era, and what Star Trek and soy boys have to do with it.
Today’s guests:
Kara Swisher, tech journalist and Casey Newton’s former landlord
Daphne Keller, director of the program on platform regulation at Stanford University’s Cyber Policy Center
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Google CEO calls AI tool’s controversial responses ‘completely unacceptable’
Kara Swisher Is Not Here to Make Friends in Her New Memoir
Burn Book: A Tech Love Story by Kara Swisher
Daphne Keller’s FAQs About the NetChoice Cases at the Supreme Court
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Lakshmi Rengarajan, a leading researcher on dating and the host of the Later Dater Today podcast, joins Scott to discuss the trends around dating for both old and young people, the importance of “striving,” and how dating apps bring out the worst side of us when it comes to finding potential partners.
Scott opens with his thoughts on Meta’s staggering earnings.
Algebra of happiness: what shapes you?
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Jason Del Rey is the author of Winner Sells All Amazon, Walmart, and the Battle for Our Wallets. Matt Stoller is the director of research at the American Economic Liberties Project, and writes the Big newsletter on Substack. Ranjan Roy is the author of Margins. The three guests come together with host Alex Kantrowitz for an in-depth discussion about Amazon's challenges from government regulators and Walmart, and whether government action against the company could have an impact.
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Breaking news: Kara Swisher will not referee the cage match between Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg. Also, SpaceX is looking to up its valuation, and Meta wants to shut down access to news in Canada. And this weekend’s insurrection in Russia revealed how unequipped social media is to cover breaking news. Plus, an investigation into the Titan submersible implosion may lead to new regulations. Will the same happen for space travel? Then we’re joined by Friend of Pivot, Jason Del Rey on the decades-long battle between Walmart and Amazon.
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Kara and Scott talk Super Bowl ads and legacy blue check wars. And what on Earth (or Mars?) is the deal with all of these UFOs? Plus, the state of Big Tech: the layoffs, the opportunities, the A.I. Also, Friend of Pivot and co-host of Land of the Giants, Lakshmi Rengarajan joins to dicuss all things dating.
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In the 47th episode journalist and host of the Pivot podcast, Kara Swisher joins to discuss the changes in tech and founders from when she started vs today. Plus the art of interviewing, propaganda vs journalism, the importance of being true to yourself and not caring what people think.
(0:00) Introducing Kara Swisher
(1:33) Tech industry now vs the past
(10:24) Kara’s podcasting history
(13:28) On Dolly Parton
(16:37) Not caring what people think
(18:48) Art to interviewing
(25:10) Elon & who should run twitter
(29:51) San Francisco
(32:00) Tech’s role in future generations
(34:54) Succession
(41:03) Silicon Valley and other TV
(45:53) Fraud
(50:15) Media is a hard business
(51:58) Seppic/Biohacking
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Produced: Andrew Nadeau and Rashad Assir
Executive Producer: Josh Machiz
Music: Griff Lawson
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Matthew Ball comes on to talk about his new book: The Metaverse: And How it Will Revolutionize Everything. Then, Jason Del Rey @DelRey talks to us about how Amazon has been faring in the post-Jeff Bezos era.
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Kara Swisher is the co-founder of Recode, a New York Times columnist, the co-host of Pivot, and the host of Sway. She joins BigTechnology Podcast for a special edition tackling the biggest tech headlines, her major career decisions, and reasons to be optimistic about technology.
Kara and Scott Galloway are hosting Pivot MIA, a three-day event in Miami, from Feb. 14 - Feb. 16. You can learn more here: https://voxmediaevents.com/pivotmia
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Code has begun! Scott helps Kara prep for her conversations with Elon Musk, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella, Netflix Co-CEO Ted Sarandos, and many more. Plus, Facebook puts Instagram for Kids on pause, and what are the implications of China's crypto ban? Then, Friend of Pivot, Chairman and CEO of Vox Media, Jim Bankoff.
Stay tuned to the Pivot feed to hear full interviews from Code!
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Jeff Bezos is headed for the door at Amazon, and because 2021 is the craziest news year on record, we mostly haven’t stopped to consider this seismic story and what it means for the business world.
Joining us to discuss what Amazon looks like after Bezos is Jason Del Rey, a senior correspondent at Recode and author of a forthcoming book on Amazon’s battle with Walmart.
Here's Jason's story on what to expect from incoming CEO Andy Jassy:
https://www.vox.com/recode/22264330/amazon-ceo-andy-jassy-jeff-bezos-aws
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After five years, Kara Swisher signs off as the host of Recode Decode. She and her producer Eric Johnson discuss five of the best moments in the show's 539-episode history; then, she talks with Vox Media CEO Jim Bankoff about the future of Vox as the COVID-19 crisis continues and the media grapples with what it can do to unwind systemic racism; and finally, she answers questions submitted by 10 of her past guests, including Ronan Farrow, Carole Cadwalladr, Anthony Scaramucci, and Stephanie Ruhle.
Thank you to all of our guests, listeners, and the dozens of people behind the scenes who have made this show possible. Starting on Monday July 6, we'll bring you hand-picked "Best of Recode Decode" episodes for the rest of the summer. After that, stay subscribed for something new on this feed from Vox Media.
Featuring:
Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large
Eric Johnson (@HeyHeyESJ), Recode Decode senior producer
Jim Bankoff (@Bankoff), Vox Media CEO
More to explore:
On Reset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything.
On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.
On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.
And on Season 1 of Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon — and now, on Season 2, Peter Kafka and Rani Molla are examining "the Netflix effect."
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Very special guest Matthew Yglesias joins the show to talk about Tim Cook cozying up to Trump for tariff relief and more.
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Kara and Scott talk about how Apple CEO Tim Cook, let Trump get away with lying about being responsible for building a 2013 factory. They also talk about how a Facebook executive says the company wants the government to regulate political ads. Also, Scott thinks HBO Max is making a big mistake by diluting its brand and bundling non-prestige television. Friend of Pivot, Arielle Duhaime-Ross, the host of Reset comes on the show to ask Kara and Scott about "sharenting" and how they decide to share pictures of their kids. (You can hear the full episode on 11/26). Kara has strong feelings about Juul. The e-cigarette company is getting sued by California and New York for allegedly marketing their tobacco products to teens. Scott's win is Ambassador Marie Yavonavitch. While Kara's win is COTY buying Kylie Jenner's cosmetics company for $600-million. In predictions Scott says get used to hearing more about Roku in 2020.
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The Vox/Recode family has a new podcast, Land of the Giants. And so we’re going to talk to Jason Del Rey, the voice behind the first season of this podcast, which focuses on Amazon. But look, I’ve wanted to get someone on to talk turkey with me about Amazon for a while now, because they're at this weird place where… maybe they’re the most powerful tech company in the land? What does that mean, for them AND for us? Jason Del Rey was the perfect person to ask.
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Recode editor-at-large Kara Swisher joins Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel to discuss the possibilities of breaking up big tech companies like Google, Apple, Facebook, and Amazon. Kara also explains how the dominance of these four giant companies harms competition and innovation in Silicon Valley and why tech companies should be doing more to help.
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Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the state of daily news podcasts and the future of the medium.
In this episode: How Rameswaram got into public radio and then podcasting; why Serial took off and how it changed the podcast landscape; the daily news explainer podcasts The Daily, Up First, and Today Explained; how Today, Explained got started and how Rameswaram thinks about his job as host; how the show chooses what to cover; the future of podcasting; Gimlet's $300 million sale to Spotify; and is there a podcast bubble?
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Instagram announced on Wednesday a standalone app called IGTV, a place for watching long-form vertical video. Casey and Ashely — who went to Instagram’s event that announced the app — talk with Nilay, Dieter, and Paul about their initial feelings about the platform and predict how it will fit into the social mediasphere.
Also, Nilay Patel sits down with Kara Swisher to talk about the recent AT&T and Time Warner merger. Kara published a book in 2003 about the AOL and Time Warner merger There Must Be a Pony in Here Somewhere (the merger split off in 2009) so the two discuss the similarities and differences between the two mergers and what they can potentially mean when distribution companies own content.
There’s a whole lot more in between that — like Paul’s weekly segment (now up for sale) “Shaavoop” — so listen to it all and you’ll get it all.
01:54 - Instagram announces IGTV, a standalone app for longer videos
19:33 - AT&T launches new WatchTV streaming service at aggressive $15-per-month price
27:26 - Tinder parent company buys anti-Tinder dating app Hinge
35:51 - Kara Swisher talks AT&T - Time Warner merger
1:07:12 - Paul’s weekly segment “Shaavoop”
1:11:51 - What happens if Apple loses its Supreme Court App Store antitrust appeal?
1:19:27 - Apple’s AirPower charging mat rumored to ship in September following ‘technical hurdles’
1:19:48 - Apple and Oprah are teaming up to make videos
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Kara Swisher (@karaswisher) has been called "Silicon Valley's most feared and well-liked journalist" by New York Magazine. Here's just one example: you can graph the impact on Yahoo's stock price by various posts by Kara. That's just the tip of the iceberg. She attended Georgetown's School of Foreign Service prior to changing course to journalism. It turns out many of the skills that would make a good spy are those that make a good journalist: developing sources, asking good questions, scenario planning, and much more. She forged her reputation at the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal, and now she spends the majority of her time as Executive Editor of Recode and the host of the Recode Decode podcast. Over the last 11 years and alongside Walt Mossberg, she has also co-produced D: All Things Digital, a major high-tech conference with interviewees such as Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and many other leading players in the tech and media industries. In this podcast episode, she and I cover a lot of subjects, enjoy quite a few laughs, and dig into details you can readily apply and test yourself. Topics include: The art and craft of good questions Lessons learned and favorite moments from interviewing Steve Jobs What separates good from great journalists War stories, missed opportunities, and "optimistic pessimism" I hope that you enjoy this episode with Kara Swisher! Show notes and links for this episode can be found at www.fourhourworkweek.com/podcast. This podcast is brought to you by Athletic Greens. I get asked all the time, "If you could only use one supplement, what would it be?" My answer is, inevitably, Athletic Greens. It is my all-in-one nutritional insurance. I recommended it in The 4-Hour Body and did not get paid to do so. Listeners of The Tim Ferriss Show get $100 worth of travel packs for free when placing an order -- that's twenty free additional travel pouches -- at AthleticGreens.com/Tim. This podcast is also brought to you by MeUndies. Does this year’s Valentine’s Day have you stumped? Skip the cliches and give a gift that looks great, feels amazing, and makes everybody happy: MeUndies. MeUndies knows that your special someone deserves a special fabric, which is why their underwear is made exclusively out of MicroModal, a fabric three times softer than cotton. I’ve spent the last six months wearing underwear from these guys 24/7, and they are the most comfortable and colorful underwear I’ve ever owned. If you don’t love your first pair of MeUndies, they’ll hook you up with a new pair or a refund. They offer free shipping and, for a limited time, listeners get 20% off their first order. Just go to MeUndies.com/tim. That’s MeUndies.com/tim.
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Vergecast is back! But something is different…Dieter moved to San Francisco and Nilay is still in New York City. How can they make it work? This is the future and we can chat in cyberspace, that's how. Using ~technology~ we also patch in Paul Miller and Lauren Goode for a special State of Tech discussion.
Wait! There's more! Nilay interviews Kara Swisher, executive editor of Recode, to talk about what's to come with this year's mammoth guest lineup at the Code Conference.
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31.12 - Nilay and Dieter’s car trouble
41:31 - interview with Kara Swisher
52:23 - lightning round
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