#790: Chris Sacca — How to Succeed by Living on Your Own Terms and Getting Into Good Trouble
Chris Sacca is the co-founder of Lowercarbon Capital and manages a portfolio of countless startups in energy, industrial materials, and carbon removal. If it's unf**king the planet, he's probably working on it. Previously, Chris founded Lowercase Capital, one of history's most successful funds ever, primarily known for its very early investments in companies like Twitter, Uber, Instagram, Twilio, Docker, Optimizely, Blue Bottle Coffee, and Stripe. But you might just know him as the guy who wore those ridiculous cowboy shirts for a few seasons of Shark Tank. To purchase Chris's ranch, schedule a viewing at FivePondsRanch.com.
P.S. This episode features a special, one-of-a-kind introduction that Chris recorded of yours truly. :)
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[00:00] Coming up
[06:47] Chris introduces me.
[11:07] Some Sacca background.
[18:32] Raising pre-teen gamblers and tailgating troublemakers.
[19:54] Conscious changes and rethoughts since our first interview.
[26:12] The personal and professional influence of Rich and Sarah Barton.
[30:18] Property management and the Zen of Kevin Rose.
[35:12] Zillow Gone Wild.
[36:58] Simplifications.
[45:03] Remaining optimistic despite being in the business of saying no.
[51:33] Living in the finite without +1 obligations.
[56:54] “Wait, what’s hustle culture?”
[59:48] The (lack of) trouble with kids today.
[01:09:53] Raising kids to solve problems and eschew smartphones.
[01:14:15] Rawdogging? You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
[01:16:05] An Andy Goldsworthy aside.
[01:16:30] Taking advice from R. Buckminster Fuller GPT.
[01:19:13] Assigned reading.
[01:20:10] Humans vs. AI.
[01:26:20] What happens to people stuck between AI job displacement and a broken social contract?
[01:42:38] Counting on the human craving to convene and connect.
[01:56:30] What kind of business would a younger Chris start today?
[02:00:44] The prescience of The Medium is the Massage.
[02:01:39] What does Lowercarbon Capital do?
[02:08:44] Projects Chris is most excited about.
[02:18:59] Youthful mischief and flim-flammery.
[02:24:51] The premise for Chris’ upcoming No Permanent Record.
[02:35:25] Cultivating the ability to face (and maybe win over) a tough crowd.
[02:39:19] Chris expresses some concerns about this episode.
[02:40:24] Recommended reading.
[02:45:07] A worthwhile purchase of $100 or less.
[02:48:03] Deez Crocs.
[02:50:48] Sabotaging potential dates with authenticity.
[02:59:11] Parting thoughts.
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#765: Chris Sacca and Scott Glenn
This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited.
The episode features segments from episode #79 "Chris Sacca on Being Different and Making Billions" and #729 "Legendary Actor Scott Glenn — How to Be Super Fit at 85, Lessons from Marlon Brando, How to Pursue Your Purpose, The Art of Serendipity, Stories of Gunslingers, and More."
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[05:19] Notes about this supercombo format.
[06:23] Enter Chris Sacca.
[06:53] Traits of founders for whom success, at massive scale, seems predestined.
[08:00] Travis Kalanick and Nintendo Wii Tennis.
[09:55] Resources for cultivating investing chops, emotional intelligence, and general empathy.
[18:37] Chris' evolving concept of success.
[22:31] What Chris and his brother Brian's parents did right.
[26:47] What Chris looks for when hiring.
[29:23] The prophetic notebook.
[31:29] Advice to aimless college graduates.
[34:06] Two differentiators that shifted the nature of Chris' business
[38:16] Enter Scott Glenn.
[38:44] Idaho vs. Los Angeles.
[44:59] Apocalypse Now, self-confidence soon after.
[49:00] Burt Lancaster's movie star lessons.
[54:41] The birth and death of Wes Hightower.
[1:03:56] Catching the attention of James Bridges.
[1:06:12] Scarlet fever.
[1:07:57] From Marine to police reporter.
[1:12:42] Berghof Studios and parental advice.
[1:21:12] Converting to Judaism.
[1:24:04] Lao Tzu: the ultimate mystic?
[1:28:44] Letting go with Killer Joe.
[1:33:20] "Crazy Whitefella Thinking."
[1:38:53] Getting out of the way and Erwan Le Corre.
[1:42:19] Lessons from the "morally phenomenal" Marlon Brando.
[1:46:54] How Scott's childhood bout with scarlet fever informed his life's course.
[1:49:33] Daily routines and exercises of an in-shape 85-year-old.
[2:05:46] Securing a serendipitous skill set.
[2:12:41] Thailand talk.
[2:16:46] Increasing surface luck.
[2:17:32] How Scott met and fell in love with his wife.
[2:23:32] "Just dance."
[2:24:14] Mistakenly calling Rudolf Nureyev Russian.
[2:26:24] Poetry.
[2:30:31] What Laurence Olivier knew about the value of tenacity.
[2:32:09] Parting thoughts.
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20VC: Chris Sacca, Chamath Palihapitiya, Gary Vee, Brad Gerstner and more on Their Relationship To Money, How It Has Changed with Time and Wealth, How They Bring Up Their Children To Engender the Same Values of Ambition and Hard Work?
Chris Sacca is the Founder and Chairman @ Lowercase Capital, one of the best performing funds in the history of venture capital with a portfolio including Uber, Stripe, Twitter, Instagram, Twilio, Docker and many more.
From interviewing some of the world's richest married couples, how did gaining wealth change their relationship and marriage?
What does Chris do to actively ensure his children remain hungry and know the value of money?
Chamath Palihapitiya is Founder & CEO @ Social Capital. Social's portfolio includes the likes of Slack, Yammer, Front, Intercom and Carta to name a few.
What does Chamath mean when he says we need to think through the mindset of "infinite games" not finite games? How does this change how you think about money?
How does Chamath think about his relationship to risk today as a result?
Brad Gerstner is the Founder and CEO of Altimeter. Brad's notable deals that he has helped lead include Snowflake, Mongo, Bytedance, Gusto, Unity, Okta, dbt, Modern Treasury, EPIC Games, Hotel Tonight and Zillow.
What is the most important thing parents can do to ensure that despite wealth, their children remain grounded and ambitious?
Why does Brad, despite being a billionaire, still live in a modest house and not spend on the excesses of life? How does Brad embrace essentialism with wealth?
Cyan Banister is one of the most successful and renowned early-stage investors in the last decade. Her portfolio includes the likes of SpaceX, Uber, Affirm, Opendoor Postmates, Niantic and Thumbtack to name a few.
Why did Cyan used to hate money? Why was she "anti-capitalist"?
How does Cyan approach risk management today? Why does she invest every dollar she makes back into the ecosystem?
George Zachary is a General Partner @ CRV, one of the nation's oldest and most successful early-stage venture capital firms with a portfolio including the likes of Airtable, DoorDash, Dropbox, Niantic and many more.
What did George learn about how the way people view you changes with your increasing wealth?
Why does George believe rich people like to hang out with rich people?
Biz Stone is best known as the Co-Founder of Twitter and Medium. Biz is also an investor in the likes of Slack, Square, Intercom, Beyond Meat and Blue Bottle Coffee.
What does Biz mean when he says, "wealth only serves to amplify the person you are?"
20VC: The Memo: Chris Sacca on Why We Are Breeding a Generation of Entitled Assholes, Harley Finkelstein on What Great Fatherhood Really Means, Deena Shakir on How Kids Make You a Better Investor and Anne Wojcicki on How Children Change Your Approach to R
Chris Sacca is the Founder and Chairman @ Lowercase Capital, one of the best performing funds in the history of venture capital with a portfolio including Uber, Stripe, Twitter, Instagram, Twilio, Docker and many more. Why does Chris believe we have bred a generation of asshole kids?
What is the right way to negotiate with children? How has that impacted how he manages his team?
Anne Wojcicki is the Founder & CEO @ 23andMe, offering DNA testing with the most comprehensive ancestry breakdown, personalized health insights, and more.
How did having kids change Anne's approach to time allocation and risk?
Harley Finkelstein is the President of Shopify. Over the last 12 years, Harley has partnered with Tobi to the tune of building Shopify's revenue to over $4.6BN in 2021 and the team to over 10,000 employees.
Does Harley believe he has always been a good father?
What changes has Harley made to be more present and there for his children?
Why does Harley advise couples therapy as early in a relationship as possible?
Deena Shakir is a Partner at Lux Capital, one of the leading firms investing in emerging science and technology ventures at the outermost edges of what is possible.
What specific negotiation tactics from parenting can be applied to business?
How can a parent show their children they listen, they understand and are there for them?
Why does Deena believe children make you more productive and more efficient?
Eric Liaw is a General Partner @ IVP, one of the leading later-stage venture capital and growth equity firms of the last decade with $8.7 billion of committed capital and a 40-year IRR of 43.1%.
What have been the biggest challenges for Eric of managing family and work?
What have been some of Eric's biggest lessons in terms of how he communicates about his work to his family?
Scott Dietzen is Vice Chairman of the Board of Pure Storage and served as the Company's CEO from 2010 to 2017. Under his leadership, Pure grew to thousands of employees and completed an IPO in 2015.
What can parents learn from nature programs?
What core elements of parenting are directly transferrable to management?
20VC: Chris Sacca on Coming Out of Retirement To Unf**k The Planet with Lowercarbon, How Chris Evaluates His Relationship To Money Today, Why We Have Bred a Generation of Ass**** Kids, Do VCs Provide Any Real Value and The True Unfiltered Opinion on Faceb
Chris Sacca is the Founder and Chairman @ Lowercase Capital, one of the best performing funds in the history of venture capital with a portfolio including Uber, Stripe, Twitter, Instagram, Twilio, Docker and many more. Despite this incredible success, in 2017, Chris and his wife, Crystal announced they would be stepping back from day to day investing to focus on ongoing efforts to rescue our democracy, heal the planet, promote diversity within venture capital. Earlier this year, they announced Lowercarbon Capital, with $800M AUM, with the mission to back companies that make real money slashing CO2 emissions, and buying us time to unf**k the planet. Fun fact: As a result of his incredible investing success Chris has also been a Shark on Shark Tank and even starred in an episode of Billions.
In Today's Episode with Chris Sacca You Will Learn:
1.) How Chris made his way into the world of investing having started life as a lawyer? What was his first investment? How did the first Twitter $25K angel check come about?
2.) How does Chris evaluate his own relationship to money and wealth? Why did Chris and Crystal interview some of the wealthiest people? What did they learn from those discussions? How does Chris view the role of luck? Why was it when Chris lacked optimism he lost the most money? How did being $4M in the hole from public markets impact his mindset?
3.) What does it mean for Chris to bring up healthy and happy children? Why does Chris believe today's parenting has bred a generation of asshole kids? In what way is great parenting aligned to great team management? How does Chris give feedback to his teams vs his children? What tone should be used? Should it always be "radical candor"? Should it be immediate?
4.) Does Chris believe that VCs really add any value? What does Chris believe is his secret sauce? Why does Chris believe that as a VC you have to be outspoken and loud about the value you provide? What have been some of the biggest lessons for Chris from sitting on boards and working with Bill Gurley? Why does Chris believe that most VCs are shitty managers?
5.) Why did Chris decide to come back from retirement and found Lowercarbon with Crystal? Why did he not decide to do it all with his own money? Why is now different for climate tech than prior generations of climate tech innovation? How big does Chris want to scale Lowercarbon? Will Chris make more money from climate investing than from tech?
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Chris' Favourite Book: Not Fade Away: A Short Life Well Lived, How To Raise an Adult
#325: Lessons from Richard Branson, Tony Robbins, Ray Dalio, and Other Icons
This particular episode of The Tim Ferriss Radio Hour explores success, a slippery and dangerous term if ever there was one. The particular guests selected for this episode represent not only achievement, but also appreciation and a well-rounded version of what I consider to be a successful human being.
This episode features:
CDBaby founder Derek Sivers on the importance of challenging your own definitions of success.
Performance coach Tony Robbins on best lessons learned from working with legendary investors.
Venture capitalist Chris Sacca on missed opportunities and the commonalities of successful people.
Legendary investor Ray Dalio on the three things that make up a successful life.
Virgin Group founder Sir Richard Branson on the best thing his parents taught him.
I hope you enjoy this episode of The Tim Ferriss Radio Hour!
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#270: Investing Wisdom from Marc Andreessen, Peter Thiel, Reid Hoffman, Chris Sacca, and Others
This episode contains some of the best lessons I’ve learned about investing, making money, and growing your personal wealth. It was inspired by my recent talk with Ray Dalio, which has been incredibly popular and led to many additional questions about money and investing.
There is no doubt we need to create systems and procedures that work for each of us. What works for me might not work for you. But you can learn from some of the smartest money managers in the world, and this includes billionaires and legends in the world of finance.
This episode includes tips and recommendations from:
Marc Andreessen
Chris Sacca
Reid Hoffman
Peter Thiel
Seth Godin
I also share my own personal investing strategy, and the method I use to assess risk and reward.
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#132: Chris Sacca on Shark Tank, Building Your Business, and Startup Mistakes
Sometimes one interview just isn't enough. That was certainly the case with my good friend, Chris Sacca. Chris (who I interviewed before) was recently the cover story of the Midas Issue of Forbes magazine. He was on the cover because he's a newly minted billionaire and the proprietor of what will likely be the most successful venture capital fund in history: LOWERCASE Capital. He's an early-stage investor in companies like Twitter, Uber, Instagram, Kickstarter, and many more. Also, he wears cowboy shirts, has a great beard, and is hilarious, which is reason enough to bring him back for more. In this episode, he answers all of your most pressing questions based on your votes and feedback.s You'll find some fantastic responses, ranging from life advice to business recommendations and everything in between. Show notes and links for this episode can be found at www.fourhourworkweek.com/podcast. This episode is brought to you by Foodist Kitchen. Sometimes the most life-changing habits are the ones we put off, and learning to cook is at the top of that list. I only finally took the plunge when writing The 4-Hour Chef, and it turned my eating and my life into high definition. Foodist Kitchen is a 30-day program that teaches you how to cook without recipes, and I highly recommend it. Chopping and sautéing are just a small part of the whole deal -- you also need to know what flavors taste good together and what it means to cook until done. Foodist Kitchen brings all these skills together so you can walk into the kitchen, open the fridge, and have an intuitive sense of what to cook and how to do it. It was created by Darya Rose, who's a friend of mine and one of my cooking mentors for The 4-Hour Chef. She has offered a $15 discount off your membership, so check out FoodistKitchen.com/Tim to learn more about the program. This episode is also brought to you by Exo Protein. These guys are making protein bars using cricket protein powder. Before you screw your face up and look disgusted, I bet they taste better than any protein bar you've ever had before! With recipes that were developed by a three-Michelin-starred chef, the bars are paleo-friendly, with no gluten, no grains, no soy, no dairy, etc., and they won't pop up your glycemic response. In fact, they're less processed than any other protein bars you'll be able to find. Exo Protein is offering a deep discount to Tim Ferriss Show listeners -- if you go to ExoProtein.com/Tim today, you can try a sampler pack with all of the most popular flavors for less than $10. This is a startup with limited inventory that sells out all the time, so act fast!
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Episode 48: Chris Sacca
Chris Sacca is one of the most successful angel investors of all time. He's invested in Twitter, Uber, Instagram, and Kickstarter, among many others. Before that he led special projects at Google and worked as a lawyer at Fenwick. He shares what it was like working with Larry & Sergey at Google, working with Ev Williams and Jack Dorsey as one of the first investors in twitter, becoming a guest shark on Shark Tank, interviewing Edward Snowden, and asking President Obama the tough questions while working with him in his two campaigns. edited by Alex Kontis praise to @sacca criticism to @eriktorenberg
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Investor Chris Sacca shares his thoughts on who might get the Twitter CEO job, Walt Mossberg dives into the weird world of wireless carriers and Jason Del Rey explains the rise of "buy" buttons.
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#79: Chris Sacca on Being Different and Making Billions
"Fuck it... I'm just not going to play this traditionally anymore." - Chris Sacca Chris Sacca was recently the cover story of the "Midas Issue" of Forbes Magazine. The reason: He is a newly-minted billionaire and the proprietor of what will likely be the most successful venture capital fund in history: LOWERCASE I of LOWERCASE Capital. He's an early-stage investor in companies like Twitter, Uber, Instagram, Kickstarter, and many more. In this interview, we discuss unfair advantages, how Chris chooses founders and investments, stories of missed opportunities, the styles that differentiate Wall Street from Silicon Valley investors, and how keg parties can liberate law students from the tyranny of class (Chris completed law school without attending any classes). Enjoy! All show notes, links, and resources from this episode can be found at http://fourhourworkweek.com/podcast This podcast is brought to you by MeUndies. Have you ever wanted to be as powerful as a mullet-wearing ninja from the 1980's, or as sleek as a black panther in the Amazon? Of course you have, and that's where MeUndies comes in. I've spent the last 2-3 weeks wearing underwear from these guys 24/7, and they are the most comfortable and colorful underwear I've ever owned. Their materials are 2x softer than cotton, as evaluated using the Kawabata method. Check out MeUndies.com/Tim to see my current faves (some are awesomely ridiculous) and, while you're at it, don't miss lots of hot ladies wearing MeUndies. This podcast is also brought to you by 99Designs, the world’s largest marketplace of graphic designers. Did you know I used 99Designs to rapid prototype the cover for The 4-Hour Body? Here are some of the impressive results. Click this link and get a free $99 upgrade. Give it a test run.. Thanks for listening!
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