Digital Humans and the Story Behind Lil Miquela
You’ve probably heard of ‘Lil Miquela. The 19 year-old Brazilian-American influencer has millions of followers and has partnered with the likes of Samsung and Prada. But despite capturing the hearts of many, she’s not real.
But you probably haven’t heard her origin story. In this episode we take a trip back to 2016, to a world that looked much different to today, together with two of Miquela’s creators – Trevor McFedries and Isaac Bratzel – cofounder and Chief Design and Innovation Officer of Brud at the time.
We learn what inspired the experiment and what early signs indicated that Miquela was not just a novel idea. In a world where spinning up an influencer, we learn what it took to capture mindshare, the pushback they’ve received, what a “scalable influencer” means, and what they think is to come.
Resources:
‘Lil Miquela on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lilmiquela/
‘Lil Miquela on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWeHb_SrtJbrT8VD-_QQpRA
Find Trevor on Twitter: https://twitter.com/whatdotcd?lang=en
Find Isaac on Twitter: https://twitter.com/izykbenjamin
Find Brud on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brud.fyi
Isaac’s new avatar company: https://www.avataros.com/
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
02:18 - The key insight
04:05 - A new breed of influencers
06:25 - Miquela’s aesthetic
09:30 - Early signs of success
13:01 - Narrative and fan engagement
16:45 - The technology
18:14 - Expanding past Miquela
22:34 - Traction and generative AI
26:45 - A new reality
31:55 - Early pushback
33:38 - Misunderstanding reality
36:23 - Fear of new technologies
37:47 - New technological unlocks
41:13 - Scalable influencers
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🎙️Friends with Benefits' Alex Zhang on Building Web3 Communities That Endure
This week’s Defiant Podcast is from a conversation I had with Alex Zhang at the Unfinished Live conference. Alex is the mayor of Friend with Benefits, or FWB, a prominent DAO of creatives.
Friends with Benefits started as an experiment when its founder minted and airdropped the FWB token to an early community. FWB holders gained access to private chat groups on Discord. From there, it developed into a community of thousands of members, live events and even proprietary software. Alex explains the evolution and growth of Friends with Benefits.
A common criticism of Web3 is that it over-financializes communities and social media. To join Friends with Benefits, a user must hold 75 FWB in their Ethereum wallet. At its peak, membership would have set you back $14,000. At current prices, it costs roughly $600, which can still be considered a prohibitive price for most people. Alex shares his thoughts on this exclusionary feature of Web3.
In the past two years, we’ve seen a boom in Web3 communities sprouting from DeFi, DAOs, and NFTs. As we’re still in an experimental phase in this regard, meaning there are no strict rules and practices, we discuss how Alex finds running a DAO in this environment, given the less hierarchical and structureless nature found in Web3 communities.
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Music NFTs & The Next Generation Of Music | Cooper Turley
In this episode of Empire, Jason and Santi are joined by Cooper Turley, aka Coopahtroopa, for a master class on music NFTs. We all listen to music every day, yet monetization for 99% of artists is abysmal. Coop explains how artists can leverage Web3 to maximize revenue, fan engagement and creativity.
We explore how music NFTs work, why they have value, which artists should participate and how Web3 will revolutionize the music industry. Cooper is an absolute expert, you won't want to miss it!
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Intro
(02:00) Coop Records & Intro to Music NFTs
(06:50) The Evolution of Music Monetization
(11:30) How to Value Music NFTs
(14:41) Artists as CEOs & the Music NFT Market
(22:59) Circle Ad
(24:41) Should Every Artist Create Music NFTs?
(28:57) Do Music NFTs Need Utility?
(37:40) One-of-Ones vs Collections
(41:35) AI-Generated Music & Virtual Artists
(47:05) Monetization, Fan Data and the Innovator's Dilemma
(53:16) Incubating Artists, Creator Equity Tokens & Community
(1:00:01) Tokenized Media & Rapid Fire Questions
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Resources
Relics by Monstercat
https://relics.xyz/
Hume
https://www.wearehume.com/
Coop's Substack
https://thisweekinmusicnfts.substack.com/
Coop Records
https://www.cooprecords.xyz/
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Does Decentralization Matter? | Kevin Owocki & Cooper Turley
What is most important in crypto? What wins out in the end? Today, we find out if user experience is more important than decentralization. As we progress through crypto's cambrian explosion, we often observe the tradeoff between immediate product viability and a 'no cutting corners' approach.
Taking the side of UX & a product-first mentality is Cooper Turley, a champion of the creator economy. Kevin Owocki—himself a schelling point for public goods—is defending decentralization and the merits of a values-first approach.
While exploring the roots of this tradeoff, we'll learn more about where we are as an ecosystem and where we are inevitably heading.
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------ Resources:
Cooper on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Cooopahtroopa
Kevin on Twitter: https://twitter.com/owocki
Foundation: https://foundation.app/
Soundxyz: https://www.sound.xyz/
Mirror: https://twitter.com/viamirror
Snapshot: https://snapshot.org/#/
Gnosis Safe: https://gnosis-safe.io/
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How NFT DAOs Could Shape the Next Blockbuster, Fund Poetry and Change VC - Ep.315
Dapper Collectives CEO and Friends With Benefits founder Trevor McFedries joins Unchained to discuss social tokens, NFTs, the creator economy, $FWB, VC snacks, DAOs, Cooper Turley, and more. Show highlights:
Trevor’s past, which includes a top 10 album, working at Spotify, founding Brud, creating Lil Miquela, and, of course, falling down the crypto rabbit hole
what Trevor’s vision for Dapper Collectives is
what type of activities DAOs will facilitate in the future
why Trevor is so excited to be working with Dapper Labs and Flow
what Friends With Benefits is and how the $FWB token works
what sort of tokens make up the Friends With Benefits treasury
why venture capitalists who want to be involved with Friends With Benefits need to have a good snack game
why Trevor is not worried about $FWB becoming a security
what plans Friends With Benefits has in store for 2022
Trevor’s response to Friends With Benefits suspending co-founder Cooper Turley regarding 10-year old racist and homophobic tweets
what can be done to onboard a more diverse demographic to crypto
how Trevor defines the passion/creator economy
what Trevor is looking forward to in 2022 regarding NFTs, DAOs, and social tokens
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Trevor Mcfedries
Twitter: https://twitter.com/whatdotcd
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/trevor-mcfedries-0a5285a8/
Work
CEO - Dapper Collectives
Decrypt write-up: https://decrypt.co/82517/dapper-labs-nfts-daos-collectives-brud
Announcement: https://medium.com/dapperlabs/the-future-of-x-is-decentralized-bb3245faf1b1
Founder → Brud
Twitter: https://twitter.com/makebrud
Website: https://www.brud.fyi/
Lil Miquela: https://www.instagram.com/lilmiquela/
Acquisition by Dapper Labs: https://techcrunch.com/2021/10/04/nft-startup-dapper-labs-acquires-virtual-influencer-startup-brud/
AI Influencers: https://mailchimp.com/courier/article/ai-influencers/
Friends With Benefits
Basics
FWB website: https://www.fwb.help/
Mirror: https://fwb.mirror.xyz/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/fwbtweets
FWB Etherscan: https://etherscan.io/token/0x35bd01fc9d6d5d81ca9e055db88dc49aa2c699a8
CoinMarketCap: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/friends-with-benefits-pro/
Background Reads
Trevor’s role: https://consensys.net/blog/codefi/friends-with-benefits-a-new-model-for-social-tokens-on-ethereum/
a16z investment: https://a16z.com/2021/10/27/investing-in-friends-with-benefits-a-dao/
FWB deep dive: https://ra.co/features/3914
Intelligencer write up: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/10/whats-a-dao-why-your-group-chat-could-be-worth-millions.html
Coindesk write up: https://www.coindesk.com/business/2021/11/09/the-social-token-network-rally-friends-with-benefits-and-the-future-of-branding/
Cooper Turley removed from DAO
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2022/01/15/crypto-influencer-cooper-turley-removed-from-fwb-over-2013-bigoted-tweets/
Backlash to removal:
https://twitter.com/mewn21/status/1482202603563798530
WHALE treasury tokens
https://snapshot.org/#/friendswithbenefits.eth/proposal/QmWnifY3KD5ECJNtQ23m9GHt2oQ1McA3T4DEEpFarPy9jW
Additional Links
Sound.xyz
https://www.sound.xyz/
Catalog
https://beta.catalog.works/
Daily Ape on DAOs: https://thedailyape.notion.site/DAOs-95332c7ab79c49dc89f9a72c628dfeb8
Social Tokens:
Cooper Turley:
https://coopahtroopa.mirror.xyz/DYSs-mhdJi1uXZTaiyJfwiFZYAF9kRK6yBsAplk6A68
Linda Xie:
https://linda.mirror.xyz/4PDBWBMpFFPVEsP5EGgg5to2AyEpEHEXasq_K0b-yYk
Forefront: https://forefront.market/learn/social-tokens
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Cooper Turley | Layer Zero
Cooper Turley is all in, all the time. He’s been that way since he was a kid. In the crypto space, it truly seems like he’s everywhere at once. He knows everyone and has his hands in nearly every relevant project.
However, none of this happened by chance. Cooper is a champion of the grinder mindset, and it echoes through everything he touches. His approach to his career, relationships, and self-improvement buzzes with a productive energy to build and bring value to all that he does. We all have something to learn from Cooper Turley.
As crypto continues to mature, it’s clear that big things are lined up for Cooper. We can’t wait to see what he comes up with next.
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DAOs are crypto's most important innovation | Cooper Turley
In this episode of Empire Jason & Mike are joined by Cooper Turley an operator, advisor & thought leader in the fast evolving DAO ecosystem. Cooper has worked on projects such as Friends with Benefits, Forefront, Seed Club & many more. In this episode, Cooper shares his thoughts on the transition from web 2.0 to web 3.0, four steps to creating a DAO, the creator economy, how to invest in the ecosystem & the outlook for the rest of 2021.
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DAO Panel | Kain Warwick, CoopahTroopah, Tracheopteryx
DAOs are heating up. In 2021, the tools and infrastructure surrounding DAOs have taken off at an incredible pace. Digital organizations have the potential to fundamentally change the way we coordinate as a species.
We bring on DAO experts Kain Warwick, Cooper Turley, and Tracheopteryx to provide insights into this budding movement.
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Cooper on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Cooopahtroopa?s=20
Tracheopteryx on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tracheopteryx?s=20
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TOP SIGNAL: DAO Dudes | Cooper Turley, Lucas Campbell, Callum Gladstone, James Waugh
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TOP SIGNAL: DAO Dudes | Cooper Turley, Lucas Campbell, Callum Gladstone, James Waugh
Join Michael Wong and David Hoffman as they attempt to make a show about comedy and crypto!
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TOP SIGNAL: DAO Dudes | Cooper Turley, Lucas Campbell, Callum Gladstone, James Waugh
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The Creator Economy | Jesse Walden, Li Jin, Cooper Turley
Come learn and hear about what the Creator Economy is, and what it has in store for our industry!
Li Jin: @ljin18
Jesse Walden @jessewldn
Cooper Turley: @Cooopahtroopa
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The Creator Economy naturally erupts with the internet. Specialization allows creatives – artists, content creators, and everything in between – to carve out increasingly specific niches and build curated cultural communities. Art in all forms has an opportunity to blossom with the coordinative capacity of modern technology, and every active participant is inherently a creator. Smartphones and social media make everyone journalists, photographers, actors, and commentators simultaneously.
With this budding paradigm, ownership of creations is paramount. The crypto industry lends itself elegantly to this need, blending creation and ownership. Web 2 has witnessed an explosion of distributed content, but centralized platforms determine the nature of how it plays out. Crypto offers a natural evolution to the creator economy, enriching the relationship between creator and community.
This conversation takes a wide lens to the intersection of culture and the crypto industry. From MySpace to Instagram to Patreon, the ebbs & flows of internet culture and economy moves at a blistering pace. Our experienced panelists break these things down and discuss where we're going.
------ Resources:
Li on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ljin18?s=20
Jesse on Twitter: https://twitter.com/jessewldn?s=20
Cooper on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Cooopahtroopa?s=20
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0:00 Intro 4:30 Cooper, Li, and Jesse 7:30 What is the Creator Economy? 14:32 Evolving Creator and Community 21:31 Creator First vs. Platforms 28:35 The Internet Dream 36:16 Evolving Platforms 43:00 Sovereign Creation 47:19 DAOs and the Creator Economy 55:30 Creator Economy Platforms 59:27 Get Involved 1:02:08 Closing & Disclaimers
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Trevor McFedries - Building Web 3.0 - [Founder’s Field Guide, EP. 29]
My guest today is Trevor McFedries, the founder of technology startup Brud and the creator of virtual pop star Miquela, a Gen Z icon with millions of fans worldwide. Trevor’s background is fascinating - he worked as a DJ and producer, toured with Katy Perry, worked at Spotify, and done just about every interesting thing I can imagine. In our conversation, we discuss the music-industrial complex, the creation of Miquela, and what Web 3.0 will mean for creators and builders in the future. I hope you enjoy this conversation with Trevor McFedries.
For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here.
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Show Notes
[00:02:54] - [First question] - What unites the diversity of his career
[00:03:39] - What inspired him to pivot away from football and step into creative arts
[00:05:50] - Lessons learned from being a touring DJ and producer that apply to the creative tech sector
[00:07:40] - A view of the music industrial complex from the inside
[00:08:57] - How the internet deciding who becomes popular affected already established artists
[00:10:57] - Interesting opportunities in the music landscape in 2021
[00:11:40] - Time spent at Spotify and the spark of insight that led to founding Brud
[00:16:02] - The sequence of creating a digital artist like Lil Miquela
[00:19:02] - What it feels like to be “othered”
[00:20:24] - Embracing one's intersections and applying it to a business model
[00:21:18] - The team behind Lil Miquela and her design process
[00:25:49] - Ingredients required for building a great narrative
[00:28:35] - What social media platforms matter today, and the state of the social landscape
[00:32:21] - Expanding Lil Miquela’s world and digital media monetization
[00:36:32] - Differences between web 2.0 and 3.0 that may directly affect creators
[00:38:27] - Ways innovations like NFTs make spawn new network participants
[00:39:49] - Programmable art and media experiences
[00:41:03] - The most cutting-edge ideas in the digital persona space
[00:43:21] - Technology that wasn’t available that had to be built to enable new experiences
[00:45:49] - One of the hardest decisions he’s had to make in Brud’s history
[00:47:16] - The furthest they’ve ever pushed the envelope
[00:48:06] - What’s the thing that keeps him going every day
[00:50:12] - Finding cultural white space and inventing a character that could speak to investing to inspire new generations
[00:52:01] - Units of media contribution and creative container experimentation
[00:53:27] - What has him the most excited about the future of his industry
[00:54:32] - Missing technological components that could inspire new digital creatives
[00:56:53] - Work ethic through the lens of developing a jump shot
[00:59:00] - One business lesson that he believes in deeply
[01:00:05] - The kindest thing anyone’s ever done for him
"We've Been Creating Value for Instagram and TikTok With Very Little Actually Accruing to Us:" Trevor McFedries
This week’s interview is with Trevor McFedries, who is behind Lil Miquela, a 19-year-old aspiring pop star with almost 3M Instagram followers, striking deals with Clavin Klein and Prada. But what’s more surprising is that she’s not human. She’s a computer-generated, character. The company that Trevor co-founded, called Brud, created her image and life story. It’s only fitting then that Lil Miquela, who lives in a digital world, will start to leverage digital tokens.
[Note: Trevor says in the interview a Miquela drop on SuperRare would happen on Oct. 30 or 31, but they’ve since changed the date to November 17. So you’re still on time to participate.]
How to build authentic connection at scale, w/Trevor McFedries & Lil Miquela
You might not know Trevor McFedries yet, but if you're on Instagram, you've probably met Miquela. She has millions of followers, hit singles and lucrative contracts with brands. But she’s not actually real. Miquela’s the creation of Trevor’s stealthy creative media studio Brud, and the delicate balance they strike between artificial and authentic is a master class for any scaling company. In this first-ever in-depth interview with Trevor, he shares his bold plan to create celebrity at massive, multilingual scale; his advice for entrepreneurs of color as they fundraise; and his guidance for anyone connecting at scale: That once you build that connection with your audience, they don't care HOW you made it. All they care about is how it makes them feel. Cameo: Alison Darcy (Woebot).
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