Why OG DeFi Failed | Kain Warwick, Founder of Synthetix
Kain Warwick—DeFi OG and founder of Synthetix and Infinex—is back on The Defiant Podcast with Camila Russo for a no-BS conversation at a pivotal moment: Infinex just ran its INX token sale and is heading into its TGE.
We get into:
Why Kain believes DeFi’s biggest bottleneck isn’t “more decentralization,” but UX + distribution
The hard lesson OG DeFi learned: users won’t “learn to love complexity”—the product has to be holistically better
The INX sale controversy: $2,500 cap → cap removed, one-year lockup stays, and why he says the sale “didn’t need to happen” (but still closed)
What he’d do differently: market-driven pricing for locked vs. liquid tokens (and why he thinks the liquidity premium is brutal right now)
Kaito / InfoFi: how incentives turned crypto Twitter into slop—and why he thinks it “blew up the public square”
What INX actually does: early access, fee discounts, governance—and what demand looks like from power users
Infinex’s product roadmap: Safe support, hardware wallets, integrating “competitors” like Hyperliquid, and the real metric he watches—share of wallet
The bigger vision: a one-stop, non-custodial front-end that can serve both whales and newcomers (and why that’s the only way DeFi competes with fintech)
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War Stories From a Crypto Founder | Kain Warwick
This week, Kain Warwick joins the show to discuss building Infinex and the march towards TGE. We deep dive into Kain's experience building in crypto, the next stage for Infinex, taking down CEXs, running a startup, dealing with drug addiction & more. Enjoy!
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Ethereum's Layer 1 Lacks a Perp DEX. Synthetix Intends to Change That - Ep. 926
Kain Warwick, founder of Synthetix and Infinex, is returning to Ethereum Layer 1 with a bold new experiment: a perpetuals DEX built directly on mainnet. In this episode, he joins Laura to explain why Synthetix is taking this contrarian step, how its hybrid “optimistic order book” can run efficiently on Ethereum’s slower block times, and why he believes the future of trading will move fully on-chain.
Warwick also discusses the tradeoffs behind using USDT, what it will take to match centralized exchange performance, and his “super app” vision for how DeFi platforms could finally outcompete CEXs.
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Guest:
Kain Warwick, Founder of Infinex and Synthetix
Links:
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Blockwork’s Dan Smith on Spreads for ETH-USD
Timestamps:
🔥 0:00 Introduction and ads: Binance
⚙️ 0:56 Why Synthetix is launching a perps DEX directly on Ethereum mainnet
⏳ 5:18 How a perpetuals exchange can even work on slow Ethereum block times
🔍 10:34 How transparency will differ from other onchain trading venues
🏗️ 13:53 Why Kain believes being on Ethereum mainnet still matters
🧱 17:00 The challenges of operating on L1—margin posting, gas costs, and more
⚔️ 21:43 How Synthetix plans to compete in an overcrowded perps DEX landscape
💣 24:33 How liquidations on an Ethereum perp DEX would play out during a Black Friday-like crash
🕵️♂️ 29:32 How traders could maintain privacy while staying fully decentralized
🌐 31:57 Why a perps DEX on mainnet could reshape Ethereum DeFi
💵 34:25 Why Synthetix is using USDT—despite its centralization risks
🏦 37:28 Which premium assets will serve as collateral
📱 39:36 Inside Kain’s “super app” vision for DeFi’s next evolution
🏁 50:31 Why Kain is fired up about Synthetix’s upcoming trading competition
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At What Price Freedom? Stopping ‘All-Out Crime’ in Crypto Market Making - Ep. 809
As DeFi continues to evolve, the challenge of finding a balance between decentralization and protection from all manner of exploits persists.
The founder of Infinex, Kain Warwick, joined the show to talk about:
How crypto market makers have at times veered into “all-out crime”
What market making looks like today
Playing chart games with token allocations
What Kain looks at when evaluating tokens
Why Binance kicked a MOVE market maker off its platform
The $JELLY attack on Hyperliquid and the problem of centralization in DeFi
What problems in crypto Kain is attempting to solve with Infinex
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Guest:
Kain Warwick, founder of Infinex App and Synthetix
Previous appearances on Unchained:
2025 Will Be a Year of Crypto Competition. Can Ethereum Make a Comeback?
Links:
Crypto Market Making
Kain Warwick: Discussion about market makers
Binance: What happened with MOVE on Binance
Coindesk: Binance Offboards Market Maker That It Said Made $38M Profit on MOVE Listing
Bloomberg: Citadel Securities Plots Jump Into Crypto Trading After Trump’s Embrace
Hyperliquid
Unchained: Hyperliquid Saved Itself a $15 Million Loss, but Sparked Criticism
Infinex
The Block: Synthetix founder Kain Warwick launches Infinex
The Block: Peter Thiel's Founders Fund invests in Infinex's Patron NFT sale as total amount raised hits $67.7 million
Timestamps:
👋 0:00 Intro
💭 03:30 Thoughts on crypto market makers
🙊 05:54 ICO-era market makers engaging in ‘all-out crime’
🦹 09:33 Extracting value in an inefficient market
💸 11:28 How crypto market making has evolved in recent years
😨 16:53 The low float meta problem
📊 19:49 Why Kain evaluates tokens on FDV rather than market cap
⁉️ 25:06 What happened with MOVE on Binance
😱 31:14 Citadel as a market maker?
🥷 35:48 The $JELLY attack on Hyperliquid and the problem of centralization
🔧 44:59 The problems Kain is trying to solve with Infinex
🌎 54:13 Building a web vs. mobile app
👂 56:17 Echo group integration with Infinex
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ROLLUP: Milei’s Memecoin Scandal | KAITO Airdrop | The Fed’s QT Pivot? | Ethereum’s Pectra Upgrade
This week’s Weekly Rollup, David and Kain Warwick dive into Argentine President Milei’s LIBRA fiasco and Strategy’s bold $2B Bitcoin play, while we check out the new Kaito airdrop making waves. We also explore Ethereum’s biggest upgrade yet—Pectra—plus Monad’s high‐speed L1 testnet launch. Finally, we dig into the SEC’s fresh “CETU” cyber unit and what the brand‐new Infinex platform means for DeFi. Tune in for all the drama and alpha happening in the third week of February! ------ 📣RESERVE | INVEST IN CRYPTO NARRATIVES https://bankless.cc/reserve ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS:
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29:59 Markets https://www.strategy.com/press/strategy-announces-proposed-private-offering-of-2b-of-convertible-senior-notes_02-18-2025
38:51 Kaito Airdrop https://yaps.kaito.ai/ https://x.com/KaitoAI/status/1890379872280682548 https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/kaito https://x.com/divine_economy/status/1892597817434145113 https://x.com/smyyguy/status/1892585101873033380
53:16 Ethereum’s Pectra Upgrade https://x.com/sassal0x/status/1890534315148132521
1:00:21 Monad launched a public testnet https://x.com/monad_xyz/status/1892227817149997212
1:00:47 SEC Launches New Cyber Unit ‘CETU’ Aims to Protect From Bad Actors https://www.sec.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2025-42
1:06:52 Infinex https://x.com/infinex_app/status/1887028112099283198
1:11:29 Closing & Disclaimers
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Kain Warwick on Infinex, Synthetix, and the Future of DeFi UX and Stability
Kain Warwick, founder of Synthetix and Infinex, discusses the evolution of DeFi and the trade-offs required to improve user experience while maintaining decentralization. He explains how Infinex aims to offer a more accessible, centralized exchange-like interface while remaining non-custodial, addressing long-standing UX challenges in DeFi. Warwick also reflects on Synthetix’s recent governance restructuring, competition from Hyperliquid, and the potential shift back to a stablecoin-focused model. Looking ahead, he highlights the importance of regulatory clarity, improved infrastructure, and greater accessibility in driving the next phase of DeFi growth.
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction to Kain Warwick
00:15 - Kain’s history in DeFi
01:26 - Motivation behind Infinex and staying in crypto
02:21 - Challenges of bull and bear markets
05:55 - The idea behind Infinex and UX innovation
08:40 - Trade-offs in building a user-friendly DeFi platform
17:05 - Passkeys and the seamless user experience
24:26 - Adoption metrics and user growth
26:51 - Future roadmap: Bitcoin, XRP, and Doge integration
33:08 - The Patron NFT sale: Lessons learned
37:19 - Synthetix updates: Governance and structural changes
39:27 - The role of attention in crypto success
47:50 - Synthetix’s stablecoin pivot and liquidity strategy
51:14 - Differentiating Synthetix’s stablecoin from others
54:03 - Avoiding the pitfalls of past algo stablecoins
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2025 Will Be a Year of Crypto Competition. Can Ethereum Make a Comeback? - Ep. 760
Ethereum, once the undisputed leader in the smart contract ecosystem, is facing intense competition from Solana, which has outpaced Ethereum on key metrics such as developer growth. Meanwhile, debates rage within Ethereum’s community over governance, scalability, and the Ethereum Foundation’s leadership.
Adding to the disruption, AI agents are rapidly reshaping DeFi and token launches, reducing barriers to entry and creating new opportunities—and risks—for founders and investors. Is this the next big leap for crypto or just the latest bubble?
In this episode, Marc Zeller of Aave Chan Initiative and Kain Warwick of Infinex discuss Ethereum’s future, the role of AI in DeFi, and whether Solana’s momentum will continue. They also share bold predictions for crypto in 2025 and debate whether Ethereum’s fragmented ecosystem can still deliver on its promise.
Show highlights:
03:35 Why 2024 became a turning point for the crypto ecosystem
07:02 How AI agents could reshape onchain innovation and public discourse in 2025
14:47 Whether AI agents might soon compete with VCs
22:10 Why fundamentals-driven crypto projects will gradually dominate the market, according to Marc
26:05 Whether Solana will continue to steal Ethereum’s thunder
37:56 Is Base cannibalistic to Ethereum? Can Base or Ethereum compete with Solana?
42:53 Where the ETH ecosystem is headed and whether it can overcome issues of fragmentation, lack or interoperability, so many L2 tokens detracting from the ETH price
52:30 Whether Coinbase's deep commitment to Ethereum is causing it to discriminate against Solana
1:00:10 How Ethereum's reputation rises and falls with its price action, not its fundamentals, per Kain
1:08:43 What the purpose is of the Ethereum Foundation and whether it should change its approach
1:24:57 Why Kain doesn’t think the native rollups proposal is tenable
1:31:12 Whether Ethena is depressing the price of ETH
1:34:00 What Kain and Marc think about crypto-specific phones, especially the Solana Seeker
1:42:07 Kain’s and Marc’s predictions for 2025
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Guests:
Marc Zeller, founder of Aave Chan Initiative
Kain Warwick, founder of Infinex
Links
Unchained: Why Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev Is Betting Big on Crypto and Stablecoins
Unchained: 2024 Was Solana's Best Year Yet. Can It Sustain the Momentum in 2025?
Unchained: What's the Best Way for Ethereum to Grow? Two Ethereans Debate
The Block: Long-running Ethereum newsletter shutting down, cites lack of funding
Unchained: How Solana Beat Out Ethereum to Nab New Crypto Developers in 2024
Evan Van Ness’ tweet on the newsletter shutdown
EF’s Josh Stark’s reply to Van Ness
Unchained: Vitalik Has Gone 'Founder Mode.' Is This Just What Ethereum Needs?
Marc’s proposal about the EF
0xMawuko’s tweet on ETH governance
Unchained: Are Layer 2s Failing Ethereum? A New Proposal Advocates for Native L2s
Ben Lilly’s tweet on Ethena possibly suppressing the price of ETH
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How to Build in Crypto: Lessons from 8 Leading Founders | Jesse Pollack, Jeremy Allaire, Anatoly Yakovenko & More
Do you think you’ve got what it takes to become a founder in crypto?
On the show today we’ve got 8 of crypto’s most famous and successful builders in crypto, each with about 15 minutes in time, giving you the wisdom they gained founding their own companies.
We’re joined by Jesse Pollack from Base, Jeremy Allaire from Circle, Anatoly from Solana, Stani from Aave, Kain from Synthetix, Mike & Jason from Blockworks, Kevin Owocki from Gitcoin and Lucas from Jito. Each one with their own perspectives, their own scars and hopefully by listening to this episode, you, the listener, can learn from their experiences to gain the confidence you need to venture into this world.
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The End Of Centralized Exchanges | Kain Warwick's Infinex
Joining us today is Kain Warwick. Not to fight, but to talk about his exciting new project called Infinex.
Infinex aims to replace crypto's centralized exchange experience and bring it all onchian. It's ambitious, but if it works, could change the way we think about DeFi and navigate across chains forever.
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------ TIMESTAMPS 00:00:00 Intro 00:04:29 Infinex 00:12:44 The Infinex Tech Stack 00:20:45 Optimizing Across Protocols 00:27:00 The Centralization Tradeoff 00:29:04 Key Tech Unlocks 00:34:48 Managing Protocol Risk 00:42:33 Transaction Experience & Security 00:50:40 Patron Sale 00:56:55 Future Growth Plans 01:00:29 Fight Commentary
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OG DeFi Pioneer Kain Warwick Aims To Transform Crypto UX With Infinex
Kain Warwick is the founder of Synthetix, an OG DeFi protocol which allows users to mint and trade a wide variety of synthetic assets, including cryptocurrencies, fiat currencies, commodities, and stocks, providing liquidity and exposure without the need for traditional financial intermediaries. His latest project, Infinex, is focused on solving crypto’s UX problems, aiming to make the user experience more intuitive and accessible for all. During EthCC[7], we had the opportunity to interview Kain to dive deeper into Infinex and the solutions they’re planning to solve Crypto UX.
0:00 Synthetix and Infinex
4:05 Incentive Schemes
8:00 Crates
11:35 NFT Governance Token
15:21 Integrations
17:40 Infinex Vision
23:00 Passkeys
28:30 Infinex Business Model
36:46 Synthetix
38:35 DeFi
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Crypto OG Kain Warwick on how early-stage investing is broken
Kain Warwick is the co-founder of the DeFi protocol Synthetix, and a partner at the crypto VC firm Bodhi Ventures.
In this episode, Warwick discusses the brokenness of the traditional venture capital model and how it has led to the emergence of new fundraising mechanisms in the crypto space.
OUTLINE
00:00 Introduction
00:41 Warwick's Crypto Journey
02:37 Synthetix History
04:47 RWA Trends
11:42 Tokenized Commodities
15:15 Crypto VC Trends
25:19 Airdrop Mechanism Design
27:56 Points
31:12 Early-Stage Inefficiencies
40:49 Deal Flow
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Balancing Innovation and Simplicity as a Crypto Founder | Kain Warwick
In this episode, Kain Warwick, the founder of Infinex, shares his lessons learned from building in crypto. He delves into the founder's dilemma of balancing innovation with simplicity, discussing the pitfalls of overcomplicating projects and the importance of iterative development. Kain also shares his experiences with token launches, incentive design, and regulatory challenges. To close out, Kain emphasizes the crucial role of empirical evidence in guiding decision-making and the need for founders to adapt to the ever-evolving crypto landscape. Thanks for tuning in!
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Timestamps
(00:00) Introduction
(00:36) Kain's OG Background
(11:23) Founding in Crypto
(22:04) Building in Crosschain DeFi
(31:09) Managing Sybil Attacks
(49:09) Private vs Liquid Tokens
(01:01:17) Points Programs
(01:05:14) Lessons Learned from Synthetix
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The Evolution of Synthetix and Onchain Perps | Kain Warwick
In today's episode of Empire, Kane Warwick returns to unpack Synthetix V3, the design thinking behind Infinex, and the challenges of decentralized governance. We explore funding rates, arbitrage opportunities, and what it will take to bring the DeFi trading experience to parity with centralized exchanges. Kane also provides his philosophical views on building in public, the societal benefits of open source crypto, and the pressures of "decentralization theater." We hope you enjoy!
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Timestamps
(01:20) The Infinex & Synthetix Experiment
(03:23) Synthetix Post Luna & FTX
(13:23) Matching the CEX Experience Onchain
(24:19) Perps Mechanism Explained
(34:46) DAS 2024
(36:00) Chronicle Ad
(37:21) Fragmentation of Users on L2s
(46:08) Revenue Model & DAO Governance
(54:25) The Case for Decentralized Governance
(01:06:22) Improving DAO Efficiency
(01:13:56) Benefits of Building in Public
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Resources:
Synthetix: A fork in the road.
https://mirror.xyz/kain.eth/lVhI3TWwpzPHSsFwUvcRFTz_8IBhdrOYC0ojtkvLbNY
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Synthetix: A New Hope with Kain Warwick
In today’s episode, we’re exploring the frontier of the multi-chain Ethereum roadmap. Synthetix has been leading this charge as it pertains to the application layer of Ethereum.
David is joined by Synthetix’s Founder, Kain Warwick in person in David’s Brooklyn studio.
“Synthetix, A New Hope,” is a recent blog post Kain wrote and is a main focus for today’s episode.
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Centralized Insanity: Kain Warwick, Synthetix
In this episode of Empire, we are joined by Kain Warwick, founder of Synthethix and crypto OG. Kain explains the concept of centralized insanity and how crypto is finally ready for the next bull cycle. We cover Synthetix's evolution, Ethereum's outlook, crypto infrastructure, what will cause the shift to decentralized products, DeFi's most important metric and more! Kain is one guest you won't want to miss!
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(02:18) DeFi Summer 2020
(05:29) The Synthetix Evolution
(09:29) Ethereum’s Outlook and Alt L1 Cycles
(23:25) A Shift From Infra to Apps
(27:47) Quicknode Ad
(29:34) Synthetix Ad
(31:13) Centralized vs Decentralized Trading
(36:20) Regulators are Stuck in the Past
(43:43) Future of Stablecoins
(47:08) Centralized Insanity, Base and DeFi Summer 2.0
(52:43) A Focus on Revenue
(01:01:30) Synthetix v3 and the Value of Composability
(01:18:34) Fire Round
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Resources
Synthetix
https://synthetix.io/
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Synthetix, DeFi Summer 2, FTX, 3AC and Crystal Meth with Crypto OG Kain Warwick
This week on The Defiant Podcast, Tegan Kline chats with Kain Warwick, crypto OG and founder of Synthetix.
Synthetix is a new financial primitive enabling the creation of synthetic assets, offering unique derivatives and exposure to real-world assets on the blockchain.
Today, we dive into what's next for Synthetix with the latest V3 launch, and what will cause the next big leg up in DeFi - what we’re calling DeFi Summer 2.
We go on to discuss the differentiation between different perpetual products that exist in crypto, and how Synthetix made the decision to launch on a Layer 2 so quickly and burn all bridges behind them. And it gets pretty spicy with some tea on FTX and 3AC.
Before we dive into it, Kain tells us what he's been up to since we last spoke to him about what it takes to scale Ethereum.
How to Build a Sustainable DeFi Protocol | Kain Warwick, Synthetix
In this episode of Empire, Jason and Mike are joined by Kain Warwick, founder of Synthetix. This is one of my favorite episodes where we discuss why protocol fees are the next meta, the value of liquidity mining and token incentives, Synthetix's roadmap, protocol-specific stablecoins and much more!
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(00:00) Introduction
(02:06) Protocol Revenue KPIs
(10:40) Do open-source protocols have moats?
(19:55) Airdrops, liquidity mining and attempts to grow TVL
(28:00) Framing the cost of liquidity mining: cash vs equity
(31:43) B2B permissoned composability and Protocol M&A
(37:56) Token supply caps & path dependency
(49:35) Should protocols retain or distribute fees
(52:10) Payment for order flow
(54:36) Synthetix’s End Game
(1:00:16) Why DAOs will outcompete traditional organizations
(1:04:38) Synthetix v3, Regulation and Liquidity-as-a-Service
(1:12:46) Why Synthetix is removing inflation
(1:16:04) Protocol-specific stablecoins & MakerDAO’s USDC reliance
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EthCC #2 | Kain Warwick - "The Crypto Fees Boom"
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With fantastic guests from all corners of the ecosystem, this 8-part series is an exploration of crypto culture and the current state of Ethereum.
With Episode 2, Kain Warwick from Synthetix joins us to frame the next bull market. Pockets of DeFi are heating up, the Layer 2 narrative has room to breathe, and electricity (hopefully not COVID) is in the air.
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Will Optimism's OP Token Draw People Back to Layer 2s on Ethereum? - Ep.350
Kain Warwick, founder of Synthetix, and Ben Jones, cofounder and chief scientist at Optimism Foundation, discuss the current state of Ethereum Layer 2s, Optimism’s new governance structure, why Synthetix chose to build on Optimism, and more. Show topics:
what Optimism and Synthetix are
how zero-knowledge rollups differ from optimistic rollups
why Synthetix decided to build on Optimism
what makes L2s more enticing to build on than other L1s
how Optimism’s governance is going to change with the launch of the Optimism Collective and OP token
what issues Synthetix has had with Discord governance and early token voting, and how they have now solved this by forcing users to consolidate wallet addresses
what retroactive public goods funding is and how it could create a “flywheel” of development on Optimism
why whales might be excluded from Optimism’s token grant to Synthetix
why Ben thinks the future is about the “superchain” rather than multi-chain
what Kain and Ben think about bridging between L2s and Mainnet
why Optimism is a staunch backer of EIP 4844
how the merge could affect Optimism and Synthetix
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Episode Links
Guests
Ben Jones: https://twitter.com/ben_chain
Kain Warwick: https://twitter.com/kaiynne
Synthetix
https://twitter.com/synthetix_io
Optimism
https://twitter.com/optimismPBC
Optimism Collective
https://optimism.mirror.xyz/gQWKlrDqHzdKPsB1iUnI-cVN3v0NvsWnazK7ajlt1fI
Synthetix Launching on Optimism
https://blog.synthetix.io/optimism-launch-announcement/
Synthetix Governance
https://docs.synthetix.io/governance/
Kain’s Blog
https://blog.synthetix.io/author/kain/
Rollups
What are the biggest risks to optimistic rollup chains?
https://vitalik.ca/general/2021/01/05/rollup.html#:~:text=Anatomy%20of%20a%20fraud%20proof
What is the difference between optimistic and ZK rollups? And why did Synthetix choose Optimism?
https://blog.matter-labs.io/optimistic-vs-zk-rollup-deep-dive-ea141e71e075
EIP 4844
https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-4844
https://www.eip4844.com/
The Merge
https://unchainedpodcast.com/why-ethereums-merge-was-delayed-and-why-it-wont-reduce-gas-fees-much/
Kain’s previous Unchained appearances
Ethereum killers episode
https://unchainedpodcast.com/how-solana-and-binance-smart-chain-could-take-ethereums-lead/
How Synthetix became the second-largest DeFi platform
https://unchainedpodcast.com/how-synthetix-became-the-second-largest-defi-platform/
DeFi summer
https://unchainedpodcast.com/why-comp-5xed-on-day-1-and-what-this-means-for-a-defi-bull-market/
Optimism’s Bridging Solution
https://twitter.com/optimismPBC/status/1517548430297604096
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Synthetix's Kain Warwick: What it Takes to Scale an Ethereum DeFi Protocol
This week, we sit with Kain Warwick, DeFi OG and founder of Synthetix. In some ways, last year wasn’t a great one for the synthetic assets protocol. As many DeFi projects boomed, SNX’s price and TVL dropped. Kain says he was too optimistic about how soon Synthetix would be able to scale with optimistic roll-ups. If he were to do things again, he would probably use Polygon first and move to Optimism once the solution was ready. But last year was also a time to build on a strong foundation. He’s looking forward to the months to come, when all of that effort hopefully comes to light, with the protocol fully live on Optimism, with perpetual swaps expected to be launched too. He’s a firm believer that Ethereum and its Layer 2 solutions will capture the most value being built in DeFi and web3.
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DAO Panel | Kain Warwick, CoopahTroopah, Tracheopteryx
DAOs are heating up. In 2021, the tools and infrastructure surrounding DAOs have taken off at an incredible pace. Digital organizations have the potential to fundamentally change the way we coordinate as a species.
We bring on DAO experts Kain Warwick, Cooper Turley, and Tracheopteryx to provide insights into this budding movement.
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How Solana and Binance Smart Chain Could Take Ethereum's Lead - Ep.240
Kain Warwick, founder of Synthetix, and Kyle Samani, managing partner at Multicoin Capital, debate the merits of Ethereum, Solana, and Binance Smart Chain. In this episode, they discuss:
why Ethereum is losing market share to Solana and BSC
whether decentralization matters and at what point decentralization becomes redundant
why they think Solana and Binance Smart Chain need to be taken seriously as competitors to EThereum
whether BSC or Solana is the bigger long-term threat to Ethereum
the biggest obstacle to Ethereum’s success (and it’s not gas fees)
how Ethereum will navigate fragmented Layer 2 solutions
Solana and its lack of developers
what differentiates DeFi from CeFi
why Solana has an edge on Ethereum in terms of composability
how Ethereum will onboard new users
why Kain is such an ardent backer of Ethereum
why both Kyle and Kain think EIP 1559 and the potential for higher ETH prices is bad for Ethereum
if Synthetix would ever consider launching a cross-chain product
the viability of a multi-chain world
why Kyle believes the future holds a winner-take-most blockchain ecosystem
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Kyle Samani
Twitter: https://twitter.com/KyleSamani
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Kain Warwick
Twitter: https://twitter.com/kaiynne
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Content
Kain’s tweet that instigated this pod:
https://twitter.com/kaiynne/status/1387266949302734852
Multicoin Blogs:
New $100m fund focused on Solana
https://multicoin.capital/2021/05/04/announcing-venture-fund-ii/
BNB Investment + valuation
https://multicoin.capital/2019/02/19/binance-coin-analysis-and-valuation/
Investment in Solana
https://multicoin.capital/2019/07/30/the-world-computer-should-be-logically-centralized/
Ethereum analysis
https://multicoin.capital/2019/05/24/the-unbundling-of-ethereum/
Value Capture at Layers 1 and 2
https://multicoin.capital/2019/03/14/on-value-capture-at-layers-1-and-2/
Kain Warwick and Sam Bankman Fried podcast
https://www.cryptonotes.org/2020/10/sbf-kain-blockcrunch-117/
Comparing AMMs on different blockchains
https://www.coindesk.com/pancakeswap-uniswap-sushiswap-crypto-defi-exchange
BSC and Solana NFT platforms
https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/102959/binance-is-launching-its-own-nft-marketplace-in-june
https://www.coindesk.com/banksy-burners-raise-3m-to-build-nft-platform-on-solana
Overview of Layer 2 solutions on Ethereum
https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/layer-2-rollups/
Binance Smart Chain guide
https://defiprime.com/binance-smart-chain
Solana guide
https://thedefiant.io/solana-defi-ecosystem-overview/
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30 - Synthetix To Billions | Kain Warwick
Episode: #30 September 14, 2020
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Kain Warwick is the founder of the Synthetix Platform, a protocol for generating and trading synthetic digital assets. Kain himself is known for leaning towards crypto-anarchist side of the political spectrum
How did this come about? How has this impacted the building of Synthetix?
Synthetix itself has stood resilient against the 2018/19 bear market. Why? What was the unique advantage of Synthetix vs other 2017 ICO platforms?
What's next for Synthetix now that gas fees are 200+ gwei?
WE COVER:
1) Kain's political stance 2) How this reflected in Synthetix 3) Motivation and Grit around building and producing 4) Growing Community and Culture during a bear market 5) Degen Spartan, and 6 dolla SNX 6) Introducing the SIP process 7) Introducing Yield Farming 8) Recursive upside/downside to SNX + ETH collateral in Synthetix 9) L2 scaling with Optimism 10) Bull market predictions ------ FURTHER RESOURCES:
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AMA#1 - Kain Warwick of Synthetix
Kain Warwick, Founder of the Synthetix Platform, presents himself to the Bankless Nation for a live AMA!
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How Synthetix Became the Second-Largest DeFi Platform - Ep.148
Kain Warwick, founder of Synthetix, talks about synthetic asset issuance platform, which enables people to create tokens that track the price of assets in traditional and crypto finance. We discuss the various types of assets available, why changing the monetary policy helped the ecosystem take off, why people would buy synthetic Bitcoin over Bitcoin itself, and why Uniswap has been pivotal to Synthetix's success. He covers the role the SNX token plays, why people minting synths must be over-collateralized by about 700%, and some of the changes coming down the pike, including futures, tweaks to the inflation rate, and a new oracle system. He also explains what happened when a trader made the system insolvent — and how they negotiated with the trader to keep it alive — how he thinks about decentralization and why the system's governance might one day be handled by a DAO.
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Synthetix: https://www.synthetix.io/
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Havven transforming into Synthetix: https://blog.havven.io/havven-is-transforming-into-synthetix-2fdf727b8892
Synthetix overview: https://blog.havven.io/synthetix-overview-f4a5a6c41210
How Synthetix works: https://www.synthetix.io/how-it-works/
Synthetix lite paper: https://www.synthetix.io/uploads/synthetix_litepaper.pdf
Changing monetary policy: https://blog.synthetix.io/synthetix-monetary-policy-changes/
Oracle hack: https://www.coindesk.com/synthetix-trader-rolls-back-broken-trades-that-netted-1-billion-profit
Synthetix response to oracle incident: https://blog.synthetix.io/response-to-oracle-incident/
How staking works on Synthetix: https://www.stakingrewards.com/asset/synthetix-network-token
https://help.synthetix.io/hc/en-us/articles/360020245314-How-can-I-earn-Synth-exchange-rewards-
Reddit complaint by trader who initially made the system insolvent: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/d4edxm/the_synthetix_dapp_deleted_my_balance/
Efforts to resolve the front running problem: https://sips.synthetix.io/sips/sip-6
Synthetix and Chainlink: https://blog.synthetix.io/synthetix-and-chainlink/
Kain’s tweets on the censorship vector stack: https://twitter.com/kaiynne/status/1197265019169169409?s=20
https://twitter.com/kaiynne/status/1197265044204998656?s=20
Unconfirmed episode on Uniswap: https://unchainedpodcast.com/how-uniswap-quickly-became-one-of-the-most-popular-dexes/
Defiant interview: https://thedefiant.substack.com/p/theres-a-pipeline-of-etf-like-tokens
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