#194 CEO & Founder Sunshine, Marissa Mayer: Innovative Instincts
Guest: Marissa Mayer, CEO and Founder of Sunshine and former CEO of Yahoo
When Marissa Mayer was first hired as the CEO of Yahoo, the company had lost nearly a quarter of its workforce in the preceding six months. Early on, she was chatting with employees in the cafeteria and one of them got her attention by smacking her tray. “Is it go time?” he asked. He was asking if the board and C-suite were ready to lead the company forward, but Marissa thought he had one foot out the door. “I had just come out of this meeting where they were like, ‘Everyone’s leaving!’” she recalled. “And I was like, ‘Oh no, please don’t go, I’ve only been here for four days!’”
In this episode, Marissa and Joubin discuss the number 12, contacts and photo sharing, fear of AI, soccer moms, maternity as a “disability,” mothers’ rooms, Jim Citrin, Project Cardinal, HTML5 vs. native apps, Ross Levinsohn, Lori Puccinelli Stern, Joe Montana, David Karp, Mark Zuckerberg, Taylor Swift, hiring at Google, Amit Patel, Hamilton, John Doerr, and the Google APM program.
Chapters:
(00:52) - Reading your own press
(04:55) - Marissa’s lucky number
(07:19) - Her latest startup, Sunshine
(15:03) - Burnout, resentment, and rhythm
(21:46) - The opportunity to become CEO of Yahoo
(27:00) - Inverting maternity leave
(31:14) - The big interview
(36:44) - An epic dinner party
(42:51) - The voicemail
(47:18) - Farzad “Zod” Nazem and David Philo
(50:25) - Last day at Google
(53:52) - “Is it go time?”
(59:03) - Buying Tumblr
(01:04:46) - Alibaba and Verizon
(01:06:24) - Larry and Sergey bucks
(01:11:05) - Eric Schmidt’s advice
(01:12:59) - In the room at Google
(01:18:36) - Teaching and identifying talent
(01:24:32) - Who Sunshine is hiring
Links:
Connect with MarissaTwitter
LinkedIn
Connect with JoubinTwitter
LinkedIn
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This episode was edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod.fm
Why Marissa Mayer Is Betting Big On Consumer Tech
Marissa Mayer is the CEO and co-founder of Sunshine, the former CEO of Yahoo, and a longtime Google executive. She joins Big Technology Podcast to discuss why she's betting on consumer tech, building a new array of products including Sunshine Contacts and the newly released Shine, a photo sharing app. Mayer discusses how AI impacts building for consumers today, and whether independent tech stands a chance against big tech. We also discuss the state of OpenAI, Google's competitive position, the lessons from Mayer's Tumblr acquisition, and what motivated her to found a company. Tune in for a fun, in-depth conversation with one of tech's leading executives.
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Is Google Getting Worse? (Update)
It used to feel like magic. Now it can feel like a set of cheap tricks. Is the problem with Google — or with us? And is Google Search finally facing a real rival, in the form of A.I.-powered “answer engines”?
SOURCES:Marissa Mayer, co-founder of Sunshine; former C.E.O. of Yahoo! and vice president at Google.
Ryan McDevitt; professor of economics at Duke University.
Tim Hwang, media researcher and author; former Google employee.
Elizabeth Reid, vice president of Search at Google.
Aravind Srinivas, C.E.O. and co-founder of Perplexity.
Jeremy Stoppelman, C.E.O. and co-founder of Yelp.
RESOURCES:“A Fraudster Who Just Can’t Seem to Stop … Selling Eyeglasses,” by David Segal (The New York Times, 2022).
Subprime Attention Crisis: Advertising and the Time Bomb at the Heart of the Internet, by Tim Hwang (2020).
“Complaint: U.S. and Plaintiff States v. Google LLC,” by the U.S. Department of Justice (2020).
“Fake Online Locksmiths May Be Out to Pick Your Pocket, Too,” by David Segal (The New York Times, 2016).
“‘A’ Business by Any Other Name: Firm Name Choice as a Signal of Firm Quality,” by Ryan C. McDevitt (Journal of Political Economy, 2014).
In the Plex: How Google Thinks, Works, and Shapes Our Lives, by Steven Levy (2011).
“The Anatomy of a Large-Scale Hypertextual Web Search Engine,” by Sergey Brin and Lawrence Page (Computer Networks and ISDN Systems, 1998).
EXTRAS:“Is Dialysis a Test Case of Medicare for All?” by Freakonomics Radio (2021).
“How Big is My Penis? (And Other Things We Ask Google),” by Freakonomics Radio (2017).
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How to make the star employees you need, w/Marissa Mayer
Can't find the star employees you need? Then make them. That's what Marissa Mayer did when she founded the Associate Product Manager program in the early days of Google — one of the company's crown jewels. She mentored a team of young, hungry, talented employees in the ways of Google, and they helped drive its success. She followed that same mindset when she became CEO of Yahoo!, and in all of her leadership roles since then. With a cameo by Karen Kirkland (Nickelodeon).
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