Bits + Bips: Why Gold Price Discovery Happened on Hyperliquid
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In this episode of Bits + Bips, Austin Campbell and Chris Perkins sit down with Cosmo Jiang to unpack what gold’s volatility shock revealed about market structure, why onchain venues like Hyperliquid are increasingly where price discovery happens, and how digital asset treasuries are being blamed for stress they did not create.
The conversation also turns to Kevin Warsh’s nomination as Fed chair and why it represents a deeper shift in institutional power, not just personnel.
Hosts:
Austin Campbell, NYU Stern professor and founder and managing partner of Zero Knowledge Consulting
Christopher Perkins, Managing Partner and President of CoinFund
Guest:
Cosmo Jiang, General Partner at Pantera Capital
Links:
Crypto at a Crossroads: Winter Fatigue Meets the Risk of Lower Lows
Weekend Drama Rekindles Debate Over What Really Caused the October 10 Crash
Crypto’s Weekend Washout Tests Conviction After a Brutal Week
Bitcoin Sinks as Markets Price In a More Hawkish Fed
Why HYPE Is Up While Every Other Crypto, Including Bitcoin, Is Down
Hyperliquid Prepares Prediction-Style Markets With HIP-4 Upgrade
Hyperliquid Sees Record Trading as Commodities Drive New Interest
Crypto Market Structure Bill Clears Senate Committee — But the Hard Part Is Still Ahead
Silver and gold extend losses after last week's historic plunge
Gold Volatility Tops Bitcoin in Wildest Price Swings Since 2008
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Is the Crypto-Native Era Coming to an End? - Lessons from 10 Years in Crypto with Joey Krug, Founders Fund Partner
Joey Krug (Founders Fund partner, former Pantera co-CIO, and Augur co-founder) returns to unpack whether the “crypto-native era” is fading as institutions and mainstream apps adopt crypto rails without adopting crypto culture.
We dig into prediction markets’ breakout (and why Polymarket finally found product-market fit), the coming regulatory fights around market structure and “insider” edges, and what’s next for founders building in a post-cypherpunk, distribution-first phase of crypto.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
5:45 Is Crypto-Native Dead?
16:37 Lessons From Augur
20:29 Prediction Market’s Success
25:24 Just Gambling?
27:50 Prediction Market Regulation
41:03 Founders Fund Polymarket Bet
44:37 FBI Raid
46:47 Founders Fund Crypto Investment Thesis
53:46 DATs
57:02 Layer1 Valuation
1:00:40 ETH Valuation
1:04:32 What Would Joey Build Today?
1:06:13 Crypto x AI
1:10:09 Frontier Tech x Crypto
1:14:26 4-Year Cycles
1:16:16 Less Upside in Crypto Now?
1:19:37 Crypto Privacy
1:20:41 Last & Next Decade
1:23:05 Closing & Disclaimers
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Solana vs. Bitcoin: Why Pantera Capital is All In | Paul Veradittakit
In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, we sit down with Paul Veradittakit, Managing Partner at Pantera Capital, to discuss the explosive growth of Solana, the future of stablecoins, and the evolution of digital asset treasury companies. Paul shares insights on Pantera's $1.2 billion Solana fund, the role of institutional capital in this crypto cycle, and why he believes Solana is poised to outperform Bitcoin and Ethereum. Tune in for a look into the next wave of blockchain innovation, from payments to gaming and beyond.
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction to stablecoins as a practical store of value
01:00 - Guest introduction: Paul Veradittakit of Pantera Capital
01:37 - Pantera’s $1.2 billion Solana fund: Why Solana?
02:36 - Evolution of digital asset treasury companies
04:13 - Pantera’s bullish stance on Solana: Technology and adoption
06:03 - Investment strategies for single-asset treasury companies
08:30 - Managing Solana in Helios: Staking, DeFi, and M&A
10:35 - Addressing Solana’s decentralization and downtime concerns
12:22 - Meme coins and their role in Solana’s ecosystem
18:18 - Stablecoins: A growing demand in Latin America
20:01 - Future use cases for Solana: Payments, AI, and Deepin
23:00 - The rise of specialized blockchains for vertical use cases
26:17 - Stablecoins as a payments hub: Key players to watch
28:14 - Altcoins’ potential to outperform Bitcoin in this cycle
33:15 - Crypto gaming: The underestimated vertical
35:37 - Closing thoughts: Solana’s future and Pantera’s vision
Phase II of the Bull Market | Dan Morehead
This week Dan Morehead joins the show to discuss the current state of markets & what's next throughout 2025 into 2026. We deep dive into how Dan built conviction in crypto as an asset class back in 2013, does the four year cycle still exist, crypto treasury vehicles, Dan's Solana thesis & more. Enjoy!
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(02:44) Buying Bitcoin In The Early Days
(07:11) Dan's Macro Outlook In 2025
(17:14) Ads (Blockdaemon, Peaq)
(18:44) Does The Four Year Cycle Still Exist?
(27:39) Phase II of The Bull Market
(29:49) The Crypto IPO Window Is Open
(32:44) Ads (Blockdaemon, Peaq)
(34:13) Crypto Treasury Vehicles
(40:30) The Solana Thesis: Why Pantera Owns $1bn+ Solana
(42:45) Are Institutions Still Underallocated To Crypto?
(46:33) Ads (Manttle, Goednet)
(47:59) Launching Crypto's Longest Running Fund
(55:07) Advice For Founders
(57:50) Crypto's Biggest Opportunity In The Next 5 Years
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What Liquid Funds Are Buying Featuring Seth Ginns & Cosmo Jiang
Gm! This week, Seth Ginns, from CoinFund, and Cosmo Jian, of Pantera Capital, join Yano to dive into the funds’ mandates, the overall outlook of the market, whether narratives or fundamentals drive price, how DATs play a role in the investor ecosystem and why sometimes non-consensus trades pay off!
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Chapters:
(00:00) Intro
(02:34) Liquid Funds
(05:35) CoinFund’s Mandate
(06:40) Pantera Capital’s Mandate
(15:22) Portfolio Construction
(20:17) Ads (Skale, Katana)
(21:48) Token Picking Strategy
(29:20) Narrative Driven Markets
(35:42) Acquiring, Trading & Selling Tokens
(50:25) Ads (Skale, Katana)
(51:56) Investor Relations Advice For Founders
(55:03) DATs Explored
(01:12:29) Ads (LEDN)
(01:13:39) Convergence
(01:17:58) What Sectors Benefit Most From DATs
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Bits + Bips: Stablecoins Just Went Legit, but That’s Only the First Step - Ep. 873
Last week, the U.S. passed its first major piece of crypto legislation. Stablecoins now have a legal home, and that could open the floodgates for adoption, disruption, and regulation.
But is this just the beginning?
In this episode of Bits + Bips, Ram Ahluwalia, Noelle Acheson, Steve Ehrlich, and guest Cosmo Jiang of Pantera dive into what the stablecoin law actually means, who it helps, who it threatens, and why Wall Street and crypto startups alike are positioning fast.
They also cover Ethereum’s rally, what’s fueling it, and whether the boom in digital asset treasury companies is sustainable. Plus, they unpack Trump’s latest threats against the Fed and what it means for markets, inflation, and interest rates.
Sponsors:
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Hosts:
Ram Ahluwalia, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida
Noelle Acheson, Author of the “Crypto Is Macro Now” Newsletter
Steve Ehrlich, Executive Editor at Unchained
Guest:
Cosmo Jiang, General Partner and Portfolio Manager for Liquid Strategies at Pantera Capital
Links
Stablecoins
Unchained:
GENIUS Act Passes: Who Are the Winners, Losers, and What Comes Next?
House Passes Landmark Crypto Legislation: GENIUS Act and Digital Asset Bills
Trump to Unblock Crypto Access in America’s $9 Trillion 401(k) Market: Report
The Block: GENIUS Act is helping Ethereum ‘have its moment,’ Bernstein says
WSJ: Why Banks Are on High Alert About Stablecoins
Digital Asset Treasuries
WSJ: Blank-Check Company Strikes Cryptocurrency Deal
Unchained: SBET to Raise Additional $5B to Grow ETH Position
Bloomberg: Trump Media Buys $2 Billion in Bitcoin for Crypto Treasury Plan
CoinDesk: DeFi Development Nears $200M Solana Treasury
DeFi Dev Corp Press release: DeFi Dev Corp. Announces Global Expansion Through Strategic Treasury Franchising Model
TLGY Acquisition Corp Press release: TLGY Acquisition Corp. Announces Business Combination and Approximately $360 Million PIPE Financing to Form StablecoinX, an Ethena Stablecoin-Focused Treasury Company
The Block: Nasdaq-listed Sonnet BioTherapeutics agrees to $888 million merger to become Hyperliquid Strategies, launch HYPE treasury
Timestamps:
🎬 0:00 Intro
🚀 3:01 Why Noelle believes the stablecoin law is just the beginning
😒 5:25 How Ram explains his disappointment with the market’s reaction
💳 11:31 Whether Visa and Mastercard survive the stablecoin disruption
🏆 17:00 Who stands to gain the most from the new stablecoin law
🏦 20:08 How tokenization could hurt investment banking
📉 22:26 Whether regional banks are on the brink
📈 27:42 What’s fueling ETH’s latest rally
🧠 31:08 Why Cosmo credits the Ethereum Foundation’s leadership for the momentum
💥 36:14 Where markets are heading as retail FOMO ramps up
💼 37:56 How Cosmo is evaluating the surge in digital asset treasury companies
🥱 43:52 Why Ram is spotting signs of market fatigue
📊 45:15 Whether upcoming crypto IPOs can match early successes
💸 47:21 Why VC activity is still lagging despite bullish narratives
🧨 51:03 How Trump’s threat to fire Powell is shaking macro sentiment
🧃 58:08 Everyone’s unexpected or contrarian take this week
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Bitcoin Treasury Companies Are Taking Off. Could They Eventually Crash? - Ep. 843
Public crypto treasury companies are in the news right now.
Just this week, Sharplink Gaming announced a $425 million raise to create an Ethereum treasury vehicle, backed by Consensys. Meanwhile, Trump Media said it will buy $2.5 billion worth of bitcoin. And in a headline grab, GameStop revealed a $500 million Bitcoin purchase. There’s even a newly launched XRP treasury company backed by Saudi royal capital.
But why are these vehicles suddenly the structure of choice for accessing crypto exposure? What kinds of assets are best suited for them? And are they safe or a ticking time bomb?
Pantera Capital’s Cosmo Jiang joins Unchained to unpack:
The structures and strategies behind these companies
Why Solana is appearing more than Ethereum (and what that says)
How XRP’s brand power could matter more than its adoption
The risks these vehicles pose to investors and to markets
Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com
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Links
Previous coverage of Unchained on bitcoin treasury companies:
Why Twenty One Capital Is More About Volatility Than Bitcoin
Twenty One Aims to Buy as Much Bitcoin as Possible. Can It Succeed?
Unchained:
Trump Media Confirms $2.5B Capital Raise to Buy Bitcoin
Consensys Leads $425M Raise for SharpLink Gaming’s ETH Treasury Plans
The Block: GameStop buys 4,710 bitcoin for corporate treasury: filing
CoinDesk: VivoPower Raises $121M to Launch XRP Treasury Strategy With Saudi Royal Backing
Bloomberg:
Cantor’s $2 Billion Bitcoin-Backed Lending Arm Makes First Deals
The Stock Market Loves Bitcoin
Timestamps:
👋 0:00 Intro
📈 1:57 Why crypto treasury companies are suddenly everywhere
🏗️ 5:03 How these vehicles are structured to raise and deploy capital
🎲 8:36 Which strategies carry more risk for investors
🔍 9:57 Pure-play crypto vs. operational businesses: what works better
💰 12:40 Why these companies often trade at a premium to their crypto
🔥 16:56 Why there’s more buzz around SOL than ETH in these structures
📣 19:44 How XRP treasury plays are unique … but tied to marketing, not tech
🙋♂️ 21:31 Why some investors prefer these stocks over holding actual tokens
⚠️ 24:12 Could these companies pose systemic risks to crypto markets?
📊 27:58 The key metrics to watch when valuing crypto treasury companies
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Finding 1,000x Assets & Asymmetric Returns | Dan Morehead of Pantera Capital
How do you find an asset with 1000x asymmetric return? How do you find the next bitcoin?
Our guest today is Dan Morehead, founder and managing director at Pantera Capital. He has been buying bitcoin since 2013 when the price was just $65. His fund is up over 100x since then.
There’s a lot to learn from Dan’s story, about early bitcoin history, but also the pattern recognition required to identify asymmetric assets. We cover price predictions, 4 year cycles vs a supercycle, how much upside is still in crypto, the trump administration and his thoughts on a strategic bitcoin reserve
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0:00 Intro 6:00 The Email from 2013 14:15 Asymmetric Patterns 17:50 Buying Bitcoin in 2013 26:25 Onboarding Investors 32:12 Crypto's Global Adoption 37:15 Bitcoin's Escape Velocity 43:19 US Government Impact on Crypto 52:21 Global Bitcoin Race 56:14 Institutional Adoption for Crypto 1:04:37 Crypto Cycles 1:09:20 2025 Bull Market? 1:12:53 Macro Environment 1:16:50 Tokenization 1:21:18 Thoughts on AI 1:24:19 The Next Bitcoin 1:26:46 Future Plans 1:27:23 Closing & Disclaimers
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Pantera Capital https://panteracapital.com/
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The AI Agent & Memecoin Thesis | Pantera’s Matt Stephenson
The collision between crypto and AI agents has officially begun. Matthew Stephensen of Pantera Capital research partner and author of “Crypto: Picks and Shovels for the AI Gold Rush,” joins us today.
We dive into the world of autonomous AI agents on blockchains, discussing the evolving role of agents, AI-driven market changes, and whether blockchain is the natural substrate for AI. Matt sheds light on topics from agent liability and regulatory challenges to infrastructure value capture and the "picks and shovels" approach to investing in AI-driven crypto tech.
Are AI agents on blockchains the obvious future? And how do scarcity and abundance interact in this new era? Join us as we tackle these questions and more, exploring what the future might hold at the intersection of AI, autonomy, and blockchain.
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0:00 Intro 5:34 Crypto x AI Narrative Shift 6:39 AI & Economic Agents Explained 11:50 GOAT Memecoin Summary 23:15 Were AI Crypto Agents Obvious? 25:18 Luna AI Token & Terminal 29:41 Consequences? Is This Life? 33:27 Exciting Use Cases 40:27 Sam Altman Quote Importance 42:33 Wealth Generation Process & Blockspace 48:15 Programmable Money & Agent MEV 56:14 The AI Agent & Memecoin Thesis 1:03:03 Government & Society Reaction Predictions 1:11:09 No Off Buttons?... 1:13:40 DePin & AI 1:16:45 AI Agent Blockspace Demand 1:19:15 Closing & Disclaimers
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Crypto's Role In The AI Revolution https://panteracapital.com/blockchain-letter/cryptos-role-in-the-ai-revolution/#crypto-ai-gold-rush
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DeFi Didn't Break with Dan Morehead & Joey Krug
Many things have broken in the last few months during crypto's bear market. However, DeFi didn't break. Dan Morehead and Joey Krug explain why.
Dan founded Pantera in 2003, then pivoted into cryptocurrency in 2013 and went all in on crypto, and is the firm's CEO. Joey joined Pantera in 2017 as co-CIO and is a seasoned builder/investor in the crypto space.
Both repeat Bankless guests and both know more than a thing or two about crypto and investing.
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Pantera https://panteracapital.com/
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115 - The Stagflation Mega-Trade | Dan Morehead
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Dan Morehead is the Founder & CEO of Pantera Capital, a blockchain investment firm that’s up nearly 65,900% since inception. Dan has spent decades successfully managing global macro funds throughout countless cycles.
We’ve said it before and we’ll say it again, macro plus crypto is a deadly combination. These two skills are some of the most important when it comes to navigating the remainder of this decade and beyond. Who better to share their expertise than Dan?
In this episode, Dan peels back the layers of how inflation, the bond bubble, and other important crises became so extreme, how they compare to the late 1970s, what you should do to prepare for the craziness to come, and so much more.
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0:00 Intro 6:12 What’s Happening with Inflation 12:10 The Reality of Inflation 14:02 Bond Bubble & Money Printing 24:06 The $15T Bond Overcalculation 35:00 Comparing the 1970s & Today 45:00 How to Survive Stagflation 51:55 Position Yourself Wisely 55:40 Crypto’s Macro Response 1:04:35 Why We’re Decoupling 1:12:30 Is the Bear Market Over? 1:18:22 The Last 10 Years & Why Crypto 1:25:10 Institutional Conversations 1:30:50 Easy Button Portfolio 1:34:44 Dan’s 2022 & Beyond Focuses 1:39:30 Closing & Disclaimers ------ Resources:
Dan on Twitter https://twitter.com/dan_pantera
Pantera Capital https://panteracapital.com/
Dan’s Letters from Pantera https://panteracapital.com/blockchain-letter/ https://panteracapital.com/blockchain-letter/the-year-ahead-in-crypto/ https://panteracapital.com/blockchain-letter/the-next-mega-trade/ https://panteracapital.com/blockchain-letter/its-called-the-70s/
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$6 Billion Fund Manager Explains Why DeFi is Undervalued | Joey Krug, Pantera
On today's episode of Empire, Jason Yanowitz and Santos Santiago are joined by Joey Krug, CIO of Pantera. Before Pantera, Joey also organized the first ICO on Ethereum, raising a total $5.7 million for Augur, a peer-to-peer betting platform- among other things. With his multiple positions and involvements in the crypto scene, Joey provides a unique viewpoint to not only past and current trends, but a loud and vocal perspective on DeFi and the Layer wars. Join Jason and Santiago as they learn more about how Joey navigated his huge portfolio of experience in crypto leading up to Pantera and why he thinks DeFi is incredibly undervalued today.
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Portfolio Director of $5 billion fund Pantera Capital believes DeFi market is undervalued
“We are heavily moving into DeFi.”
Pantera Capital, the longest operating US based bitcoin investment firm, now manages 5Bn worth of assets. But when it comes to decentralized finance, Pantera’s Franklin Bi still sees the space as undervalued.
“As long as we're still looking at the fundamentals and drawing out what the multiples are there, we're still not at the point where you know, you're really starting to see the speculative mania.”
On this episode of The Scoop, Franklin Bi Director of Portfolio Development at Pantera Capital joined host Frank Chaparro to discuss the current state of venture capital investment into crypto and how he’s finding value in an increasingly crowding ecosystem.
“There's the crypto native side, which I think a lot of new investors coming into the space don't recognize yet. Things like staking, participating in the network, focusing on decentralized governance and how we play a role there. That's all stuff that looks super different from, you know, just showing up at a board meeting once a quarter to review the financials.”
Pantera has been investing heavily into DeFi since 2017, and is continuing their ramp up as more investors begin to move away from simply an interest in novel technologies to searching for sustainable yield. Bi observed this shift in investor sentiment as traditional investors are slowly beginning to comprehend the margins of DeFi products. He expressed that certain digital assets companies are still relatively undervalued when compared to public market counterparts.
“They're getting valued like traditional financial institutions, which to me, sounds like they're undervalued because the rate at which a DeFi project can grow is on a totally different scale. The profitability margins. totally different scale.” Bi went on to add, “It tells me that they're actually undervalued rather than overvalued.”
Episode 62 of Season 3 of The Scoop was recorded at the 2021 Mainnet Conference with The Block’s Frank Chaparro and Franklin Bi, Director of Portfolio Development at Pantera Capital.
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"There's Been a Zero-to-One Switch for Institutions and Crypto:" Pantera's Dan Morehead
In this week’s episode, we speak with Dan Morehead, the founder of one of the longest-standing and largest crypto funds. Dan founded Pantera Capital in 2003 as a global macro hedge fund. In 2013, Pantera began investing in Bitcoin and quickly shifted its entire focus into crypto. Today, Pantera manages $3.8 billion in digital assets and equity in blockchain companies. Dan said Pantera is planning on increasing the Bitcoin exposure on its liquid tokens fund from zero to somewhere in the teens, while its main bet will remain DeFi. Dan is most excited about what he views is a shift in institutions’ interest in crypto. Firms which had told him they would never come close to holding crypto, are now wanting to dip their toes. And in a still small market, that has the potential to make big waves.
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Pantera Capital CEO says institutional bitcoin adoption is changing the crypto narrative
Pantera Capital's CEO Dan Morehead says initial coin offerings (ICO) aren't dead, but the narrative is gearing towards a bitcoin and ethereum ruled world for investors.
"Crypto as a market is so volatile that the narrative changes," said Morehead on this week's episode of The Scoop.
That narrative lately has been all about bitcoin's growing adoption. From Microstrategy to Stone Ridge Holdings — and maybe soon the city of Miami — big players are allocating millions into the cryptocurrency.
But as the money flows towards bitcoin adoption, ICO's aren't over, according to Morehead. Pantera is still pitched one every two to four months, and the firm's initial coin offering (ICO) fund ended 2020 up more than 500%.
Still, that's a sharp decline from the 50 pitches a week Pantera sifted through in 2017, and its bitcoin fund closed 2020 up nearly 300%. The crypto narrative for investors is trending towards bitcoin amid institutional adoption, Morehead told The Scoop.
"We’re really seeing an inflection point with more coming into the market over the last couple of months....I think the reality is they’re looking for managers that manage multi asset funds sometimes both tokens and venture and they ultimately want that all to be within a handful of managers," he said.
Lately, he's getting calls from many endowments, putting the industry at an inflection point with so many entering the space. Driving the interest in bitcoin is the current macro backdrop as well as bitcoin's spring halving last year—which the firm said could play a role in bringing its price to $115,000.
He broke down what that means for the coming year on this week's episode, along with:
Why the market is so focused on BTC and ETH this time around compared to the focus on initial coin offerings in 2017.
What institutional investors want out of a bitcoin or crypto fund manager
Why Coinbase's initial public offering will kick off a wave of crypto companies going public.
How the industry is going to consolidate in the coming years, and why many exchanges are in a prime position to get rolled up.
Why Pantera is "much more bullish on Ethereum" than other parts of the space.
23 - Investing in DeFi | Joey Krug
Episode: #23 July 27, 2020
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Joey Krug was doing DeFi before they called it DeFi. He's the co-founder of Augur, an investor at Pantera, an early supporter of Ethereum.
What did we cover? Ethereum, Oracles, DeFi, Bitcoin, Chainlink, Ampleforth, Memes, Risk, Triple Point Asset, YFI, Scaling...what didn't we cover!
After the convo, Joey said we asked the best questions of any podcast he's been on. Maybe it felt that way because we we're speaking the same language: this DeFi is eating the world.
This is Investing in DeFi with Joey Krug.
We cover:
Joey's investment thesis for crypto
How to invest in DeFi
Yield farming a gimmick?
Is AMPL for real?
DeFi oracles (and ChainLink!)
Excited about Augur v2?
A 100 Gwei world
Is ETH a triple point asset?
BTC or ETH?
The next DeFi hack
Join us next Monday for a fresh episode!
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A Conversation with Paul Veradittakit, Partner, Pantera Capital
Founded in 2013, Pantera Capital is one of the oldest investors in the nascent market for digital currencies. Having previously made headlines for it's eye-popping 25,000%+ returns in bitcoin back in the heyday of 2017 -- it might also be one of the most recognizable brands. On this episode of The Scoop, The Block welcomed Pantera Capital partner Paul Veradittakit to talk about the firm's history, why it sees more room for investing in the crowded crypto currency exchange market and how the firm plans to fend off new upstart challengers in the years to come.
Pantera Capital: How Bitcoin Could Reach $356,000 in a Few Years - Ep.129
Dan Morehead, founder and CEO of Pantera Capital, and Joey Krug, co-chief investment officer of Pantera and founder of Augur, discuss where we are in the development cycle of blockchain technology, how Bitcoin, if stays on past trend lines, could hit $42,000 by year's end and $356,000 a couple years after that, and why the biggest challenges now are around scaling and onboarding. We also cover what the adoption of the technology will mean long-term — how creating assets and markets will no longer be the realm of a privileged view — but why payments may be one of the last areas to be disrupted. Morehead and Krug also talk about how Libra walks the line between decentralized and centralized, and it's unclear how Libra will become decentralized. Plus, hear how they respond to questions about the SEC vs. Kik.
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Unchained with Joey Krug: https://unchainedpodcast.com/joey-krug-on-how-augur-is-like-any-other-tool-ep-79/
A Crypto Thesis: https://medium.com/@PanteraCapital/a-crypto-thesis-47eaacf861ca
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Joey Krug on How Augur Is Like Any Other Tool - Ep.79
Joey Krug, cofounder of Augur and co-chief investment officer at Pantera Capital, talks about what Augur is and is not, why it’s difficult to create new financial markets today and whether or not Augur markets could curb fake news. He explains why the teams burned its escape hatch key and whether he’s worried that Augur’s crowdsale would be considered an unregistered securities offering, plus answers whether he would benefit financially if assassination markets pop up on Augur. We also discuss what he sees happening in the market in his role as co-chief investment officer at Pantera Capital, what problems he think need to be resolved before Augur and dapps can take off, and which projects he believes have the greatest potential to democratize finance.
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