Augur

Joey Krug (Founders Fund partner, former Pantera co-CIO, and Augur co-founder) returns to unpack whether the “crypto-native era” is fading as institutions and mainstream apps adopt crypto rails without adopting crypto culture. We dig into prediction markets’ breakout (and why Polymarket finally found product-market fit), the coming regulatory fights around market structure and “insider” edges, and what’s next for founders building in a post-cypherpunk, distribution-first phase of crypto. ------ 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24 https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🔵COINBASE | ETH & BTC BACKED LOANS https://bankless.cc/coinbase-borrow 🪙FRAXNET | MINT, REDEEM, & EARN https://bankless.cc/fraxnet 🦄UNISWAP | CONTINUOUS CLEARING AUCTIONS https://bankless.cc/uniswap-cca 🛞MANTLE | GLOBAL HACKATHON 2025 https://bankless.cc/mantle-hackathon 💤EIGHT SLEEP | IMPROVE YOUR SLEEP https://bankless.cc/eight-sleep ------ TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 5:45 Is Crypto-Native Dead? 16:37 Lessons From Augur 20:29 Prediction Market’s Success 25:24 Just Gambling? 27:50 Prediction Market Regulation 41:03 Founders Fund Polymarket Bet 44:37 FBI Raid 46:47 Founders Fund Crypto Investment Thesis 53:46 DATs 57:02 Layer1 Valuation 1:00:40 ETH Valuation 1:04:32 What Would Joey Build Today? 1:06:13 Crypto x AI 1:10:09 Frontier Tech x Crypto 1:14:26 4-Year Cycles 1:16:16 Less Upside in Crypto Now? 1:19:37 Crypto Privacy 1:20:41 Last & Next Decade 1:23:05 Closing & Disclaimers ------ RESOURCES Joey Krug https://x.com/joeykrug Augur https://augur.net/ Founders Fund https://foundersfund.com/ ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures⁠

Joey Krug

Partner

Founders FundPantera CapitalAugur

Many things have broken in the last few months during crypto's bear market. However, DeFi didn't break. Dan Morehead and Joey Krug explain why. Dan founded Pantera in 2003, then pivoted into cryptocurrency in 2013 and went all in on crypto, and is the firm's CEO. Joey joined Pantera in 2017 as co-CIO and is a seasoned builder/investor in the crypto space. Both repeat Bankless guests and both know more than a thing or two about crypto and investing. ------ 📣Rhino.Fi | Massive Mystery Airdrop https://bit.ly/3o9trRE  ------ 🚀 SUBSCRIBE TO NEWSLETTER: https://newsletter.banklesshq.com/  🎙️ SUBSCRIBE TO PODCAST: http://podcast.banklesshq.com/  ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🌱 LENS | ACCESS CODE: WAGMI https://bankless.cc/Lens  🚀 ROCKET POOL | ETH STAKING https://bankless.cc/RocketPool  ⚖️ ARBITRUM | SCALING ETHEREUM https://bankless.cc/Arbitrum  🦁 BRAVE | THE BROWSER NATIVE WALLET https://bankless.cc/Brave  🌉 JUNO | BRIDGE FIAT TO LAYER 2 https://bankless.cc/Juno  ⚡️ ZKSYNC | THE LAYER 2 SCALING ENDGAME https://bankless.cc/zkSync  ------ Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 6:15 The Past Few Months 10:28 Crypto's 2008 Moment 12:40 The Mainstream Media Story 16:45 CeFi vs. DeFi Confusion 21:45 Media Incentives 24:00 DeFi vs. Wall Street 30:45 DeFi is Too Referential Critique 33:38 DeFi Worked Great 37:05 Transparency Thoughts 43:15 2008 Prevented with DeFi? 49:35 Educating Retail 53:39 Was This Surprising? 55:00 Quick Macro Takes 58:20 Closing & Disclaimers ------ Resources: Dan Morehead https://twitter.com/dan_pantera  Joey Krug https://twitter.com/joeykrug  DeFi Worked Great https://panteracapital.com/blockchain-letter/defi-worked-great/  Pantera https://panteracapital.com/  ----- Not financial or tax advice. This channel is strictly educational and is not investment advice or a solicitation to buy or sell any assets or to make any financial decisions. This video is not tax advice. Talk to your accountant. Do your own research. Disclosure. From time-to-time I may add links in this newsletter to products I use. I may receive commission if you make a purchase through one of these links. Additionally, the Bankless writers hold crypto assets. See our investment disclosures here: https://newsletter.banklesshq.com/p/bankless-disclosures

Dan Morehead

Founder & Managing Director

Pantera Capital

Joey Krug

Partner

Pantera CapitalFounders FundAugur

On today's episode of Empire, Jason Yanowitz and Santos Santiago are joined by Joey Krug, CIO of Pantera. Before Pantera, Joey also organized the first ICO on Ethereum, raising a total $5.7 million for Augur, a peer-to-peer betting platform- among other things. With his multiple positions and involvements in the crypto scene, Joey provides a unique viewpoint to not only past and current trends, but a loud and vocal perspective on DeFi and the Layer wars. Join Jason and Santiago as they learn more about how Joey navigated his huge portfolio of experience in crypto leading up to Pantera and why he thinks DeFi is incredibly undervalued today. -- Empire is brought to you by Blockworks, a financial media brand delivering breaking news and premium insights about digital assets to millions of investors. For more content like this, subscribe to Blockworks' free daily newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ Follow me and Santiago on Twitter, @JasonYanowitz and @santiagoroel; let us know what you thought of the show! Subscribe to the podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4UTePv1CR3APdKOiosR3Iq?si=41bc452345b649f9 Subscribe to the podcast on Apple: https://apple.co/3srZf7M

Joey Krug

Partner

Founders FundPantera CapitalAugur

Episode: #23 July 27, 2020 ----- Tools from our sponsors to go bankless: Rocket Dollar - tax shelter your crypto ($50 w/ "BANKLESS") (Read this on IRAs and 401ks) Ramp - the fiat onramp for DeFi (mention Bankless!) Monolith - holy grail of bankless Visa cards Aave - money lego for lending & borrowing ---- Joey Krug was doing DeFi before they called it DeFi. He's the co-founder of Augur, an investor at Pantera, an early supporter of Ethereum.  What did we cover? Ethereum, Oracles, DeFi, Bitcoin, Chainlink, Ampleforth, Memes, Risk, Triple Point Asset, YFI, Scaling...what didn't we cover! After the convo, Joey said we asked the best questions of any podcast he's been on. Maybe it felt that way because we we're speaking the same language: this DeFi is eating the world.  This is Investing in DeFi with Joey Krug.  We cover: Joey's investment thesis for crypto How to invest in DeFi Yield farming a gimmick? Is AMPL for real? DeFi oracles (and ChainLink!) Excited about Augur v2? A 100 Gwei world Is ETH a triple point asset? BTC or ETH? The next DeFi hack Join us next Monday for a fresh episode! ----- Resources discussed: (Listen) ETH as a triple point asset - ep 4 (Link) Ampleforth geyser (Link) Augur V2 release (Link) Matic network (scaling Ethereum) ----- Episode Actions: Sign up for Bankless to get an Augur V2 tactic (Aug 4th) Watch Ampleforth episode on Meet the Nation Give us a five-star review on iTunes! (we need 100) Also...subscribe to Bankless YouTube to watch State of the Nation every Tuesday. ----- Subscribe to podcast on iTunes | Spotify | YouTube | RSS Feed Leave a review on iTunes Share the episode with someone you know! ----- Don't stop at the podcast! Subscribe to the Bankless newsletter program Watch Bankless shows and tutorials on YouTube Visit official Bankless website for resources Follow Bankless on Twitter Follow Ryan on Twitter Follow David on Twitter ----- Not financial or tax advice. This podcast is strictly educational and is not investment advice or a solicitation to buy or sell any assets or to make any financial decisions.  Do your own research.

Joey Krug

Partner

Founders FundPantera CapitalAugur

Dan Morehead, founder and CEO of Pantera Capital, and Joey Krug, co-chief investment officer of Pantera and founder of Augur, discuss where we are in the development cycle of blockchain technology, how Bitcoin, if stays on past trend lines, could hit $42,000 by year's end and $356,000 a couple years after that, and why the biggest challenges now are around scaling and onboarding. We also cover what the adoption of the technology will mean long-term — how creating assets and markets will no longer be the realm of a privileged view — but why payments may be one of the last areas to be disrupted. Morehead and Krug also talk about how Libra walks the line between decentralized and centralized, and it's unclear how Libra will become decentralized. Plus, hear how they respond to questions about the SEC vs. Kik.  Sign up for the Virtues of the Crypto Revolution retreat with me, Meltem Demirors of CoinShares and Jalak Jobanputra of Future Perfect Ventures at Omega Institute!!  Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com: https://www.crypto.com/ Kraken: https://www.kraken.com CipherTrace: http://ciphertrace.com/unchained Episode links: Pantera Capital: https://www.panteracapital.com Dan Morehead: https://twitter.com/dan_pantera Joey Krug: https://twitter.com/joeykrug Dan Morehead on Unconfirmed: https://unchainedpodcast.com/dan-morehead-of-pantera-capital-on-why-this-crypto-winter-is-different/ Unchained with Joey Krug: https://unchainedpodcast.com/joey-krug-on-how-augur-is-like-any-other-tool-ep-79/ A Crypto Thesis: https://medium.com/@PanteraCapital/a-crypto-thesis-47eaacf861ca Unconfirmed about Congressional hearings on Libra: https://unchainedpodcast.com/why-the-congressional-hearings-on-facebooks-libra-were-good-for-bitcoin/ Unconfirmed about why it would be good if Libra rivaled the USD: https://unchainedpodcast.com/why-it-would-be-good-if-libra-rivaled-the-us-dollar/ Unconfirmed with Dante Disparte of the Libra Association: https://unchainedpodcast.com/libras-dante-disparte-on-why-we-should-trust-a-financial-system-designed-by-facebook/ Some crypto industry players fed up with US regulators: https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2019/05/29/crypto-companies-and-investors-fed-up-with-the-sec/#3f348ad7701c The SEC vs. Kik: https://unchainedpodcast.com/kin-sets-up-5-million-defendcrypto-org-to-take-on-the-sec/ Bitcoin ETF: https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2018/10/pantera-capital-ceo-sec-doesnt-want-widows-and-orphans-buying-bitcoin-etfs-i-think-an-etf-is-years-away/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dan Morehead

Founder & Managing Director

Pantera Capital

Joey Krug

Partner

Pantera CapitalFounders FundAugur

Joey Krug, cofounder of Augur and co-chief investment officer at Pantera Capital, talks about what Augur is and is not, why it’s difficult to create new financial markets today and whether or not Augur markets could curb fake news. He explains why the teams burned its escape hatch key and whether he’s worried that Augur’s crowdsale would be considered an unregistered securities offering, plus answers whether he would benefit financially if assassination markets pop up on Augur. We also discuss what he sees happening in the market in his role as co-chief investment officer at Pantera Capital, what problems he think need to be resolved before Augur and dapps can take off, and which projects he believes have the greatest potential to democratize finance. Thank you to our sponsors! Start Engine: https://www.startengine.com/unchained The Sun Exchange: https://thesunexchange.com/ Episode Links: Joey Krug: https://twitter.com/joeykrug?lang=en Augur: https://www.augur.net/ Pantera: https://www.panteracapital.com/ Joey on Unconfirmed: https://unconfirmed.libsyn.com/joey-krug-on-how-to-create-a-regular-cryptocurrency-ep022 Augur FAQ: https://www.augur.net/faq/ Predictions Global: https://predictions.global/ Assassination markets on Augur: https://www.coindesk.com/the-first-augur-assassination-markets-have-arrived/ SEC action against Sand Hill Exchange: https://www.sec.gov/news/pressrelease/2015-123.html Listen to the Unchained interview with 0x: http://unchainedpodcast.co/will-warren-of-0x-on-why-decentralized-exchanges-are-the-future Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joey Krug

Partner

Founders FundPantera CapitalAugur