Elon Musk — "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”
In this episode, John and I got to do a real deep-dive with Elon. We discuss the economics of orbital data centers, the difficulties of scaling power on Earth, what it would take to manufacture humanoids at high-volume in America, xAI’s business and alignment plans, DOGE, and much more.
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(00:00:00) - Orbital data centers
(00:36:46) - Grok and alignment
(00:59:56) - xAI’s business plan
(01:17:21) - Optimus and humanoid manufacturing
(01:30:22) - Does China win by default?
(01:44:16) - Lessons from running SpaceX
(02:20:08) - DOGE
(02:38:28) - TeraFab
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Elon Musk: OpenAI Betrayal, His Future at Tesla, and the Next Big Thing - Grokipedia
(0:00) Disgraziad Corner: The most disgraceful things of the week!
(3:10) Elon on X's new algorithm, why there has been so much Sydney Sweeney content lately
(11:35) Creating Grokipedia: Wikipedia's failures, the future of information on the internet, confirmation bias
(24:52) Three years of X: Looking back on the Twitter acquisition and how it changed free speech on the internet
(42:49) Tesla vote on Elon's compensation, would he leave Tesla if it doesn't pass?
(47:40) OpenAI lawsuit, for-profit conversion, how much Elon should own, OpenAI's great irony
(56:24) AI power efficiency, Robotaxis, future of self-driving
(1:09:34) Bill Gates flips on climate change, solar, energy production
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Elon Musk on DOGE, Optimus, Starlink Smartphones, Evolving with AI, Why the West is Imploding
(0:00) Introducing Elon Musk, and reflecting on his DOGE experience
(2:47) Optimus: Progress and potential, the "hands problem"
(12:20) Tesla: AI5 chips, impact on FSD
(16:50) SpaceX: Vision for Starlink-enabled smartphones, $17B spectrum deal, Starship update
(26:16) xAI: Next-gen Grok models, Colossus 2, scaling laws, "Grokipedia"
(31:29) Evolving alongside AI, implosion of the West, the religion vacuum
(37:36) Understanding the universe, going to the Moon, what happens on Mars?
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Elon Musk | All-In Summit 2024
(0:00) Announcement from Friedberg
(0:24) Besties intro Elon Musk!
(1:23) The Battle of Free Speech
(10:24) Potential government efficiency agency
(27:45) SpaceX updates, overreaching regulations
(36:10) Thoughts on Boeing's culture
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#438 – Elon Musk: Neuralink and the Future of Humanity
Elon Musk is CEO of Neuralink, SpaceX, Tesla, xAI, and CTO of X. DJ Seo is COO & President of Neuralink. Matthew MacDougall is Head Neurosurgeon at Neuralink. Bliss Chapman is Brain Interface Software Lead at Neuralink. Noland Arbaugh is the first human to have a Neuralink device implanted in his brain.
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(00:00) – Introduction
(09:26) – Elon Musk
(12:42) – Telepathy
(19:22) – Power of human mind
(23:49) – Future of Neuralink
(29:04) – Ayahuasca
(38:33) – Merging with AI
(43:21) – xAI
(45:34) – Optimus
(52:24) – Elon’s approach to problem-solving
(1:09:59) – History and geopolitics
(1:14:30) – Lessons of history
(1:18:49) – Collapse of empires
(1:26:32) – Time
(1:29:14) – Aliens and curiosity
(1:36:48) – DJ Seo
(1:44:57) – Neural dust
(1:51:40) – History of brain–computer interface
(1:59:44) – Biophysics of neural interfaces
(2:10:12) – How Neuralink works
(2:16:03) – Lex with Neuralink implant
(2:36:01) – Digital telepathy
(2:47:03) – Retracted threads
(2:52:38) – Vertical integration
(2:59:32) – Safety
(3:09:27) – Upgrades
(3:18:30) – Future capabilities
(3:47:46) – Matthew MacDougall
(3:53:35) – Neuroscience
(4:00:44) – Neurosurgery
(4:11:48) – Neuralink surgery
(4:30:57) – Brain surgery details
(4:46:40) – Implanting Neuralink on self
(5:02:34) – Life and death
(5:11:54) – Consciousness
(5:14:48) – Bliss Chapman
(5:28:04) – Neural signal
(5:34:56) – Latency
(5:39:36) – Neuralink app
(5:44:17) – Intention vs action
(5:55:31) – Calibration
(6:05:03) – Webgrid
(6:28:05) – Neural decoder
(6:48:40) – Future improvements
(6:57:36) – Noland Arbaugh
(6:57:45) – Becoming paralyzed
(7:11:20) – First Neuralink human participant
(7:15:21) – Day of surgery
(7:33:08) – Moving mouse with brain
(7:58:27) – Webgrid
(8:06:28) – Retracted threads
(8:14:53) – App improvements
(8:21:38) – Gaming
(8:32:36) – Future Neuralink capabilities
(8:35:31) – Controlling Optimus robot
(8:39:53) – God
(8:41:58) – Hope
Sunday Special: Elon Musk at 'DealBook'
Tech billionaire Elon Musk has come to define innovation, but he can also be a lightning rod for controversy; he recently endorsed antisemitic remarks on X, formerly known as Twitter, which prompted companies to pull their advertising. In an interview recorded live at the DealBook Summit in New York with Times business reporter and columnist Andrew Ross Sorkin, Musk discusses his emotional state and why he has “no problem being hated.”To read more news about the event, visit https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/11/29/business/dealbook-summit-news
#400 – Elon Musk: War, AI, Aliens, Politics, Physics, Video Games, and Humanity
Elon Musk is CEO of X, xAI, SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink, and The Boring Company.
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(10:25) – War and human nature
(14:51) – Israel-Hamas war
(20:59) – Military-Industrial Complex
(25:16) – War in Ukraine
(29:59) – China
(44:15) – xAI Grok
(55:13) – Aliens
(1:03:13) – God
(1:05:41) – Diablo 4 and video games
(1:14:48) – Dystopian worlds: 1984 and Brave New World
(1:20:59) – AI and useful compute per watt
(1:26:40) – AI regulation
(1:33:32) – Should AI be open-sourced?
(1:40:54) – X algorithm
(1:52:15) – 2024 presidential elections
(2:05:14) – Politics
(2:08:16) – Trust
(2:13:47) – Tesla’s Autopilot and Optimus robot
(2:22:46) – Hardships
Neuralink & Technologies to Enhance Human Brains | Dr. Matthew MacDougall
In this episode, my guest is Matthew MacDougall, MD, the head neurosurgeon at Neuralink. Dr. MacDougall trained at the University of California, San Diego and Stanford University School of Medicine and is a world expert in brain stimulation, repair and augmentation. He explains Neuralink’s mission and projects to develop and use neural implant technologies and robotics to 1) restore normal movement to paralyzed patients and those with neurodegeneration-based movement disorders (e.g., Parkinson’s, Huntington’s Disease) and to repair malfunctions of deep brain circuitry (e.g., those involved in addiction). He also discusses Neuralink’s efforts to create novel brain-machine interfaces (BMI) that enhance human learning, cognition and communication as a means to accelerate human progress. Dr. MacDougall also explains other uses of bio-integrated machines in daily life; for instance, he implanted himself with a radio chip into his hand that allows him to open specific doors, collect and store data and communicate with machines and other objects in unique ways. Listeners will learn about brain health and function through the lens of neurosurgery, neurotechnology, clinical medicine and Neuralink’s bold and unique mission. Anyone interested in how the brain works and can be made to work better ought to derive value from this discussion.
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(00:00:00) Dr. Matthew MacDougall
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(00:07:38) Brain Function & Injury; Brain Tumor Treatment
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(00:32:20) Neocortex vs. Deep Brain
(00:36:45) Decoding Brain Signals
(00:42:08) “Confidence Test” & Electrical Stimulation; RFID Implants
(00:51:33) Bluetooth Headphones & Electromagnetic Fields; Heat
(00:57:43) Brain Augmentation & Paralysis
(01:02:09) Brain Implants & Peripheral Devices
(01:12:44) Brain Machine Interface (BMI), Neurofeedback; Video Games
(01:22:13) Improving Animal Experimentation, Pigs
(01:33:18) Skull & Injury, Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI)
(01:39:14) Brain Health, Alcohol
(01:43:34) Neuroplasticity, Brain Lesions & Redundancy
(01:47:32) Car Accidents & Driver Alertness
(01:50:00) Future Possibilities in Brain Augmentation & BMI; Neuralink
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E69: Elon Musk on Twitter's bot problem, SpaceX's grand plan, Tesla stories, Giga Texas & more
0:00 Bestie Guestie Elon Musk joins via Zoom at the All-In Summit!
0:43 Benchmarking Twitter's bot problem, thoughts on slights from the Biden Administration
13:26 Breaking down Tesla's 6+ businesses, comparing them to a traditional car company
21:42 Concerns around the Twitter deal, crypto payments on Twitter
30:19 Building vs. acquiring, early Tesla stories
39:52 SpaceX's grand vision and business model, nuclear fusion vs. solar
56:37 Moving from CA to TX, fixing California, macroeconomic takes
1:10:20 American exceptionalism, a new immigration strategy
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A future worth getting excited about | Elon Musk
What's on Elon Musk's mind? In conversation with head of TED Chris Anderson, Musk details how the radical new innovations he's working on -- Tesla's intelligent humanoid robot Optimus, SpaceX's otherworldly Starship and Neuralink's brain-machine interfaces, among others -- could help maximize the lifespan of humanity and create a world where goods and services are abundant and accessible for all. It's a compelling vision of a future worth getting excited about. (Recorded at the Tesla Texas Gigafactory on April 6, 2022)
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Elon Musk talks Twitter, Tesla and the future — live at TED2022
In this unedited conversation with head of TED Chris Anderson, Elon Musk digs into the recent news around his bid to purchase Twitter and gets honest about the biggest regret of his career, how his brain works, the future he envisions for the world and a lot more. (Recorded April 14, 2022)
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#252 – Elon Musk: SpaceX, Mars, Tesla Autopilot, Self-Driving, Robotics, and AI
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(00:00) – Introduction
(07:38) – Elon singing
(08:26) – SpaceX human spaceflight
(15:12) – Starship
(23:48) – Quitting is not in my nature
(25:23) – Thinking process
(34:56) – Humans on Mars
(40:27) – Colonizing Mars
(44:13) – Wormholes
(48:50) – Forms of government on Mars
(55:54) – Smart contracts
(57:24) – Dogecoin
(58:55) – Cryptocurrency and Money
(1:05:04) – Bitcoin vs Dogecoin
(1:07:47) – Satoshi Nakamoto
(1:10:10) – Tesla Autopilot
(1:13:16) – Tesla Self-Driving
(1:25:19) – Neural networks
(1:34:16) – When will Tesla solve self-driving?
(1:36:19) – Tesla FSD v11
(1:43:53) – Tesla Bot
(1:54:33) – History
(2:02:24) – Putin
(2:08:04) – Meme Review
(2:22:29) – Stand-up comedy
(2:24:03) – Rick and Morty
(2:25:42) – Advice for young people
(2:33:39) – Love
(2:36:33) – Meaning of life
BONUS EPISODE: Elon Musk at Code Conference 2021
Kara sits down with SpaceX CEO/Tesla Technoking Elon Musk for a discussion on China, rockets, Mars colonization, and more. Recorded live at Code 2021 in Los Angeles. This interview has been condensed and lightly edited.
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Elon Musk: Neuralink, AI, Autopilot, and the Pale Blue Dot
Elon Musk is the CEO of Tesla, SpaceX, Neuralink, and a co-founder of several other companies. This is the second time Elon has been on the podcast. You can watch the first time on YouTube or listen to the first time on its episode page. You can read the transcript (PDF) here. This conversation is part of the Artificial Intelligence podcast. If you would like to get more information about this podcast go to https://lexfridman.com/ai or connect with @lexfridman on Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook, Medium, or YouTube where you can watch the video versions of these conversations. If you enjoy the podcast, please rate it 5 stars on Apple Podcasts or support it on Patreon. Here’s the outline with timestamps for this episode (on some players you can click on the timestamp to jump to that point in the episode):
00:00 – Introduction
01:57 – Consciousness
05:58 – Regulation of AI Safety
09:39 – Neuralink – understanding the human brain
11:53 – Neuralink – expanding the capacity of the human mind
17:51 – Neuralink – future challenges, solutions, and impact
24:59 – Smart Summon
27:18 – Tesla Autopilot and Full Self-Driving
31:16 – Carl Sagan and the Pale Blue Dot
Elon Musk: Tesla Autopilot
Elon Musk is the CEO of Tesla, SpaceX, Neuralink, and a co-founder of several other companies. Video version is available on YouTube. If you would like to get more information about this podcast go to https://lexfridman.com/ai or connect with @lexfridman on Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook, Medium, or YouTube where you can watch the video versions of these conversations.
Recode Decode: Elon Musk
Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about Tesla's turbulent 2018, when SpaceX will send its first rocket to Mars, why he fights with journalists on Twitter and much more. In this episode: (01:49) Using Twitter without a filter; (04:50) Picking fights with the press; (07:59) The “excruciating” year of 2018; (10:54) Why does Musk push himself so hard?; (13:49) The toll on him and Tesla’s employees; (16:52) Self-inflicted wounds and sleep deprivation; (21:44) Tesla’s first profitable quarter in two years; (23:35) Self-driving cars; (25:38) Government regulation; (29:13) Tesla’s competitors; (33:30) Why Tesla is not going private after all; (36:31) The Tesla Semi, pickup truck and other new products; (45:10) SpaceX and dying on Mars; (49:48) Donald Trump’s Space Force and colonizing beyond Earth; (51:49) Going to Mars; (55:06) Jeff Bezos, Blue Origin and Amazon; (57:03) The Boring Company, dad jokes and drilling technology; (1:05:55) Jamal Khashoggi, Saudi investors and techlash; (1:11:05) How is Musk feeling about the future?; (1:15:38) If he got one redo on something from 2018, what would he redo?; (1:16:43) Why Tesla won't make a scooter
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The future we're building -- and boring | Elon Musk
Elon Musk discusses his new project digging tunnels under LA, the latest from Tesla and SpaceX and his motivation for building a future on Mars in conversation with TED's Head Curator, Chris Anderson.
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