Bitcoin's Path to $1.5M by 2030 | Cathie Wood & Ophelia Snyder
In today's interview, Cathie Wood from ARK Invest and Ophelia Snyder from 21 Shares join Jason to discuss the journey from monetary shock to an innovation-led economic boom. They dive into the importance of wirehouses for crypto adoption, the demand outlook for Bitcoin and Ethereum ETFs, and the likelihood of seeing ETFs for alt coins in the near future. Kathy shares her views on the misallocation of capital post the 2008 financial crisis and why volatility is part of the price paid for exposure to the new asset class of crypto. Ophelia provides insights into running crypto ETFs and the regulatory landscape around getting them approved. Stay tuned for all of this and much more!
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Timestamps
(00:00) Intro
(02:13) Monetary Shock to Economic Boom
(14:21) Asset Managers & Crypto Adoption
(23:12) Explaining Crypto
(33:16) Wormhole Ad
(34:41) Monad Ad
(35:41) Shardeum Ad
(36:36) Supra Ad
(37:33) Importance of Wirehouses
(47:54) ETH & Alt Coin ETF Demand
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202 - The Year of the Crypto ETF with Cathie Wood
Cathie wood and Ophelia Snyder join us today, their two companies are at the top of the list for ETF approvals slated for early next year.
Is trad-fi excited? Are we underestimating the scale of this? Will Ethereum ever get an ETF? All these answered and more.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Start 07:13 Joint Product Partnership 15:21 ETP vs ETF 20:25 Existing Products 33:13 How Much Interest Is There? 39:01 Portfolio Allocation and Risk 42:55 What Makes an ETF So Special 48:28 The Value Of Custody 53:27 How Many ETFs Can Get Approved? 58:07 Ethereum ETF in 2024 01:02:17 Did We Get A Fed Pivot? 01:04:10 Outlook For 2024
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Co-founders of 21Shares and Amun share why crypto index products are signs of a maturing industry
Amun Holdings Limited - owner of both 21Shares and Amun, Inc. - introduced the first crypto exchange traded product (ETP) to market back in 2018.
Although the collaborative ARK Investments and 21Shares bitcoin spot ETF was recently rejected in the US, 21Shares remains the world’s largest provider of crypto ETPs with 30 unique products currently trading across exchanges.
In this episode of The Scoop, recorded at the Bitcoin 2022 conference in Miami, 21Shares and Amun co-founders Hany Rashwan and Ophelia Snyder sat down with host Frank Chaparro to discuss the current landscape of crypto ETPs, and explain why they believe the rise of crypto index tokens and crypto basket ETPs are signs of a maturing industry.
As Snyder commented during the interview:
"'Is bitcoin going to zero this year?' is no longer a continuing ongoing narrative. That changes things. It means that people are starting to look at crypto as an asset class, as an industry, as a theme… It's not, 'ok, will bitcoin now exist?' It’s now: ‘Ok, well crypto is definitely going to exist, so what is the S&P 500 of crypto?’
While 21Shares has the most ETP offerings on the market, other firms are also developing crypto basket products such as Bitwise’s recently announced NFT index fund (though this fund is only available to accredited investors).
Given their positions in the market, both Rashwan and Snyder are very aware of the institutional funds flowing into the crypto: something the two have continued to witness despite the market’s drawdown over the last few months.
As Snyder explained:
“I had a very interesting conversation with one of our lead market makers about a week ago talking about what’s going on in this market actually, and what are they seeing on the trading side, and one of the key takeaways is this: the institutions are actually forming thesis based investment philosophies. So they look at fundamentals… they develop a thesis and they invest.”
Episode 30 of Season 4 of The Scoop was recorded at the Bitcoin 2022 conference in Miami with The Block’s Frank Chaparro and 21Shares and Amun co-founders, Hany Rashwan and Ophelia Snyder.
Listen below, and subscribe to The Scoop on Apple, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you listen to podcasts. Email feedback and revision requests to podcast@theblockcrypto.com.
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