World Liberty Financial (WLF), the Trump-backed DeFi project, launched this Monday.
In this episode, crypto security expert Ogle discusses his role as an advisor to WLF. He dives into why he joined the project, what makes it unique, and how Trump’s involvement could bridge the gap for many who are new to the space.
Plus, Ogle shares his thoughts on the security challenges WLF might face and the project's potential to rival major players in the market.
He also touches on his new L1 blockchain Glue, and why he thinks it will provide a better user experience than what is out in crypto today.
Show highlights:
2:05 Ogle’s background and how he came up with a standard for dealing with crypto hacks
10:28 Where crypto hackers are usually from
13:21 Why he does security work for free
16:57 Why Ogle is advising the Trump family’s DeFi project, World Liberty Financial
22:30 Why some in the crypto community are skeptical of WLF
26:39 His thoughts on how to prevent a crypto hack of a high-profile project
32:52 Why Ogle is not worried about WLF having been forked from the hacked app Dough Finance
33:54 How the Trump family is involved in WLF
41:00 How Donald Trump is excited about the project and actually gets it, according to Ogle
43:49 Why Ogle believes WLF will attract as much traction as the entire market cap of Shiba Inu
47:04 How Ogle's new layer 1 blockchain, Glue, aims to be crypto’s AOL
56:33 Why Glue’s L2s will be specific to certain areas of the industry
1:02:41 When Ogle expects Glue to launch and whether it’ll have a token
1:04:19 How North Korean hackers are now “just so clever, socially”
1:13:56 Ogle’s tips for crypto users
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Guest:
Ogle, crypto security expert, founder of Glue, and advisor to World Liberty Financial.
Previous appearance on The Chopping Block: How This DeFi Hack Negotiator Gets Hackers to Return Stolen Money
Links
World Liberty Financial (WLFI)
Unchained: Trump’s New DeFi Project Could Be a Magnet for Hackers
CoinDesk: In Trump-Backed Crypto Project World Liberty Financial (WLFI), Insiders Are Poised for Unusually Big Token Payouts
IBTimes: Donald Trump Announces DeFi Project's Launch Date – What To Know About World Liberty Financial
Latin Times: Who Is Ogle? The Crypto Sleuth Recruited As An Advisor For Trump's DeFi Project
Glue:
Glue, The Web3 Network Built for Regular Users
How Glue Will Keep User Assets Safe
Scams and North Korea:
FBI Fraud report
North Kora Aggressively Targeting Crypto Industry with Well-Disguised Social Engineering Attacks
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Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest news. This week, the gang sits down with Ogle Crypto, a veteran negotiator in crypto hacks, to discuss the recent KyberSwap exploit, which involved an almost $50 million loss across various chains.
Ogle shares how he initially became a negotiator, including his first case in which he tracked down a group of hackers from Hong Kong when they fled to Great Britain after stealing $24 million in funds. Ogle also shares his negotiation tactics, the typical profile of hackers he encounters today and his empathetic approach towards these often young and financially struggling individuals.
Then the group raises concerns around the hype and marketing strategies of Blast, a new Layer 2 on Ethereum offering “native yields” that achieved $620 million of TVL in less than two weeks.
Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Pandora, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform.
Show highlights:
How KyberSwap's sophisticated security was breached, resulting in an almost $50 million loss across various blockchain networks.
Why Tarun suspects the behind-the-scenes workings of an organized group, rather than a lone attacker, in the KyberSwap incident.
The evolution of crypto hacks towards more systematic and professional negotiations with hackers.
Ogle's journey into the world of crypto hack negotiations, highlighted by a fascinating case of pinpointing hackers who had fled Hong Kong.
Ogle's strategic approach to negotiating with hackers, balancing empathy and tactical communication.
Profiling the typical hackers in these scenarios, focusing on their youth, origins, and backgrounds.
Ogle's perspective on why he often finds a sense of understanding towards these young, misguided hackers.
Assessing the crypto industry's response to white hat hackers: Are they adequately rewarded for safeguarding the digital frontier?
The curious surge of investments into Blast, Ethereum's new Layer 2 contender, amidst swirling concerns and skepticism.
Robert's take on why the Blast phenomenon could signal a troubling trend, surpassing the chaos of 2017, paralleled by Tarun's analogy to a “decentralized Herbalife.”
Were Blast’s marketing tactics misleading or merely overly optimistic?
Hosts
Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly
Robert Leshner, founder of Compound
Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly
Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures
Disclosures
Guest
Ogle Crypto, Crypto sleuth and negotiator
Links
Hacks
Unchained: $48 Million Drained from KyberSwap in Hack
Kyberswap’s hacker latest message
HackerNoon: Mark Cuban's Bane: How Iron Finance's $TITAN Crypto Crashed From $60 to $0
Cointelegraph: KyberSwap hacker offers $4.6M bounty for return of $46M loot
Blast
Unchained: Blast Surges to $300M TVL, Rapidly Gaining on Top Ethereum L2s Amid Concerns
DefiLlama: Blast TVL
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