Johann Kerbrat

What happens when Robinhood turns crypto from a trading feature into the backbone of its global financial platform? This week, Robinhood's GM of Crypto, Johann Kerbrat, explains how Robinhood Chain connects DeFi, tokenized assets, and mainstream users. We explore global access, permissionless development, strategic partnerships, token economics, and whether equities and crypto eventually converge. Enjoy! TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Intro 00:59 Robinhood’s Onchain Vision 04:46 Will Robinhood Move Fully Onchain? 11:07 Inside Robinhood Chain’s Explosive Launch 14:33 Building The Chain For Adoption 16:15 Ads (peaq) 17:00 Building Robinhood’s DeFi Stack 21:20 Why DeFi Partners Stay Independent 26:58 Tokenized Equities Go Global 30:38 Robinhood’s Crypto Growth Strategy 34:52 Competition And Financial Convergence Robots will soon outnumber humans onchain. peaqOS turns them into a new trusted liquid asset class, with yield tied to real-world workloads. It gives robots all they need to do business on any chain — and lets humans earn from automation. Explore the Machine Economy: https://peaq.xyz FOLLOW JOHANN › X/Twitter – https://x.com/JohannKerbrat › Robinhood Crypto – https://x.com/RobinhoodCrypto FOLLOW THE SHOW › Empire – https://x.com/theempirepod › Jason – https://x.com/jasonyanowitz › Telegram – https://t.me/+CaCYvTOB4Eg1OWJh › Blockworks – https://x.com/Blockworks EVENTS › Join us at Digital Asset Summit 2026 Asia October 7th & Digital Asset 2026 London November 10-11th https://blockworks.com/events DISCLAIMER Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only. Any views expressed are opinions, not financial advice. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

Johann Kerbrat

GM of Crypto

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Two weeks after launch, 85% of Robinhood Chain's trading is memecoins and just 1% is RWAs. Johann Kerbrat says that doesn’t change the strategy. ======================================================== Thank you to our sponsor! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Cape⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: Your biggest crypto vulnerability isn't your wallet, it's your phone number. Cape is America's privacy-first mobile carrier that rotates your SIM identity daily and blocks SIM swaps before they happen. Get 33% off your first six months at cape.co/unchained (use code: UNCHAINED). ======================================================== Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev told CNBC on July 2 that real-world assets, not memecoins, were the future of crypto on Robinhood Chain. Two weeks after launch, the numbers disagree: roughly 85% of daily trading on the chain is memecoins, while tokenized RWAs sit at about 1%. Johann Kerbrat, Vice President and General Manager of Robinhood Crypto, joins Laura Shin to argue the split is not a problem. He makes the case that building the chain permissionless was deliberate, and that memecoin trading through CashCat and PumpFun brings the liquidity RWAs will eventually need. Kerbrat also defends building the chain's lending and margin system on USDG over USDC or Tether, walks through the separate, unshared liquidity instance behind Robinhood's new perps product with Lighter, and addresses Robinhood's 63% quarterly drop in crypto transaction revenue. His answer: Robinhood Chain was never meant to smooth out that swing, and the real test is whether tokenization can outrun regulation. Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Laura Shin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Host / Unchained Guests: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Johann Kerbrat - Vice President and General Manager of Robinhood Crypto Timestamps 🐸 01:06 Why memecoins are 85% of Robinhood Chain's DEX volume, not RWAs 🚀 05:35 Why PumpFun listing Robinhood Chain tokens was the result of their strategy 🔐 09:33 Where Robinhood's responsibility ends and the permissionless chain begins 📣 11:12 Cape: Use code UNCHAINED for 33% off your first six months at https://cape.co/unchained ⚡ 16:17 Why Robinhood built a separate Lighter instance for its perps 💵 20:24 Why USDG, not USDC or Tether, backs Robinhood Chain's lending and margin 📉 23:23 Does the chain mitigate the 63% swing crypto can have on Robinhood's earnings? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Johann Kerbrat

GM of Crypto

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Robinhood Chain is live, and it may be one of the clearest signs yet that traditional finance is moving onto Ethereum rails. Johann Kerbrat, VP of Crypto at Robinhood, joins David to unpack the launch of tokenized stocks, USDG yield through Morpho, regulated and crypto-native perps, the Lighter integration, and why Robinhood Wallet is being built for the billions of people who have never used crypto before. --- 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24 https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium --- BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🔮POLYMARKET | #1 PREDICTION MARKET https://bankless.cc/polymarket-podcast 📊BITGET | TOKENIZED STOCKS 2.0 https://bankless.cc/bitget-stocks 🎯THE DEFI REPORT | ONCHAIN INSIGHTS https://thedefireport.io/bankless 👑BANKLESS PREMIUM | AD-FREE & BONUS EPISODES https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium --- TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 1:45 Robinhood Chain Goes Live 2:45 Robinhood’s 15-Product Crypto Push 5:47 Tokenized Stocks on Robinhood Chain 11:32 USDG Yield and Robinhood Earn 16:19 Perps Across Robinhood, Bitstamp, and Lighter 19:44 The Lighter Partnership 23:12 Will Robinhood and DeFi Converge? 27:15 Why Robinhood Chose Arbitrum 28:40 Building Crypto for Non-Crypto Users 31:36 How to Get Started on Robinhood Chain --- RESOURCES Johann Kerbrat https://x.com/JohannKerbrat --- Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures

Johann Kerbrat

GM of Crypto

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Robinhood is opening the testnet for its Arbitrum-based Ethereum Layer 2. In this episode, we sit down with the fintech’s head of crypto, Johann Kerbrat, to discuss the strategic move to build on Ethereum. He believes institutions can get the privacy and compliance guarantees they need on public chains like Ethereum, so building on private chains doesn’t make sense as they are just a “fancy database.” Kerbrat says he sees a future where most financial infrastructure and assets transact on public blockchains. Topics:Robinhood Layer 2 LaunchTokenized Stocks & Real-World AssetsThe "Adapt or Die" moment for BanksSelf-Custody vs. Platform Safety

Johann Kerbrat

GM of Crypto

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Robinhood isn’t just adding another crypto feature—it’s assembling a new exchange stack: stock tokens, an Ethereum L2 built for real-world assets, and a wallet that can plug into DeFi. Johann Kerbrat (GM of Crypto at Robinhood) joins Bankless to unpack what “24/7 markets” actually requires, why liquidity and routing are the hidden battleground for tokenized equities, and how “Certified by Robinhood” could become a distribution moat for onchain apps. Along the way, they compare Robinhood’s approach to tokenization with the NYSE’s 24/7 tokenized platform plans and Nasdaq’s tokenized securities proposal, and dig into what U.S. regulatory clarity would need to unlock stock tokens stateside. Subscribe for more on the new financial rails being built in real time. --- 🚀ROCKETPOOL https://bankless.cc/Rocketpool --- BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🔮POLYMARKET | #1 PREDICTION MARKET https://bankless.cc/polymarket-podcast 🌐BRIX | EMERGING MARKET YIELD https://bankless.cc/brix 🏅BITGET TRADFI | TRADE GOLD WITH USDT https://bankless.cc/bitget 👑BANKLESS PREMIUM | AD-FREE & BONUS EPISODES https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium 🎯THE DEFI REPORT | ONCHAIN INSIGHTS https://bankless.cc/TDR-pro 💰ICO WATCH | UPCOMING PUBLIC TOKEN SALES https://bankless.cc/ico-watch --- TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 3:43 Is Robinhood Building a New Exchange? 4:45 Robinhood Chain testnet: what it enables for builders 9:17 What’s actually unique about this L2 10:44 “Certified by Robinhood” explained 12:52 Mainnet timing & NYSE/Nasdaq vs Robinhood tokenization approaches 16:34 Stock tokens today: EU access, U.S. questions 18:16 The liquidity problem (and how routing fixes it) 21:28 What tokenized equities unlock beyond trading 23:23 Robinhood Wallet’s role in the stack 24:57 The CLARITY Act: what matters to Robinhood 30:49 Strategic bets: Talos, Bitstamp, and going institutional 38:51 Lighter + perps: DeFi vs CeFi (and the U.S. CFTC wall) 43:21 What’s next: “one ecosystem” + prediction markets 45:13 Builder call-to-action --- RESOURCES Johann Kerbrat https://x.com/JohannKerbrat --- Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures

Johann Kerbrat

GM of Crypto

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Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Figure Uniswap Robinhood is moving toward offering a full suite of crypto services and overhauling the infrastructure underpinning its stock trading services with blockchain technology.  In this episode of Unchained, Robinhood Crypto Senior Vice President and General Manager Johann Kerbrat discusses the company's “super app ambitions” and potential competition with Coinbase.  He also discusses the platform's entry into prediction markets and resistance from state regulators. Could state opposition to prediction markets drive businesses offshore? Plus, will tokenized stocks make IPOs redundant? And where are we in the crypto market? Guest: Johann Kerbrat, Senior Vice President and General Manager of Robinhood Crypto Links: Previous appearances on Unchained: Why Robinhood, a TradFi Hub, Is Growing Its Crypto Business Globally Unchained: Robinhood Is Building Its Own Layer 2 Blockchain Perps Are Coming to America. Will Coinbase and Robinhood Win the Race? OpenAI Says Robinhood’s Stock Tokens Are Not Equity Coinbase Expands Into Tokenized Stocks and Prediction Markets Coinbase Launches Digital Token Sales Platform Coinbase Buys Cobie’s ‘Up Only’ NFT and Echo in $375 Million Deal Timestamps: 🚀 00:00 Introduction  🤔 1:33 What drove Robinhood's 3x year-on-year crypto revenue growth in Q3? 💡 5:34 Why Johann says we are still far from a bear market 💥 7:49 How the crypto users on Robinhood have evolved overtime ⚔️ 11:08 How Robinhood views competition from Coinbase 🧏 14:30 What Robinhood's Susquehanna deal for prediction markets brings to the table 👀 18:48 Could state opposition to prediction markets drive businesses offshore? 💡 20:34 Why Robinhood chose Ethereum over Solana 🤔 25:19 When will Robinhood bring perps to other jurisdictions? 📍 27:00 Why Robinhood chose to invest in Lighter over the competition ⚠️ 29:17 Why Johann says the crypto industry needs to build resilience after 10/10 📈 33:50 How Robinhood's tokenized stock offering might come to the US 💥 39:16 Why Johann says private companies would eventually seek retail participation 💡 43:26 What tokenization of physical assets would look like 💫 47:12 How tokenization could impact the financial lives of users 🚨 49:18 Why Johann thinks crypto founders should talk less about the protocol 🧏‍♂️ 51:19 How Robinhood is looking to combine with DeFi  🤔 53:03 Will Robinhood follow Coinbase to launch an ICO platform? ⚡️ 54:22 Why Robinhood is expanding to Indonesia 🗣 56:28 What being a “super app” means for Robinhood  🔮 58:11 Johann reveals his crypto predictions for 2026 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Johann Kerbrat

GM of Crypto

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In this series of three interviews from Cannes, we host Vlad Tenev, CEO of Robinhood, Johann Kerbrat, GM of Crypto at Robinhood, and AJ Warner from Arbitrum to explore key announcements from their recent Token Summit. They discuss the introduction of tokenized stock options for private companies like SpaceX and OpenAI, aiming to democratize access for retail investors. Vlad highlights Robinhood’s commitment to addressing investment inequities, while Johann shares insights on the technological challenges and their Layer 2 blockchain initiative facilitating 24/7 trading. They also navigate the regulatory landscape with the SEC and CFTC, envisioning a future where private shares become accessible and entrepreneurial capital raising is enhanced. The conversation wraps up with plans to improve user experience for new financial products in Robinhood’s evolving crypto offerings. ------ 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24 https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🪙FRAX | SELF SUFFICIENT DeFi https://bankless.cc/Frax 🦄UNISWAP | SWAP ON UNICHAIN https://bankless.cc/unichain 🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle 🟠 BINANCE | THE WORLDS #1 CRYPTO EXCHANGE https://bankless.cc/binance ------ TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Interview with Vlad Tenev 21:00 Interview with Johann Kerbrat 37:30 Interview with AJ Warner ------ RESOURCES Vlad Tenev https://x.com/vladtenev Vlad’s Washington Post Op-Ed https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/01/28/investing-crypto-tech-robinhood-stock-market/ Johann Kerbrat https://x.com/johannkerbrat AJ Warner https://x.com/ajwarner90 ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures⁠

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CEO

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Johann Kerbrat

GM of Crypto

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AJ Warner

Executive

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Johann Kerbrat is the Vice President and General Manager of Robinhood Crypto, leading the charge in bringing crypto to millions of retail investors. In this episode, Johann shares the journey of Robinhood Crypto, from its early days of launching in 2018 to its recent innovations, including staking, self-custody wallets, and a potential shift towards a full-fledged crypto exchange. He discusses how Robinhood is leveraging blockchain to enhance efficiency, lower costs, and expand access to financial instruments. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction 00:14 - History of Robinhood Crypto 01:23 - Why Robinhood Added Crypto 02:42 - Robinhood's Perspective on Crypto 07:12 - How Robinhood Monetizes Crypto 12:31 - Competing with Crypto Exchanges 14:22 - Token Listing Strategy 16:53 - Balancing Features and Asset Expansion 18:17 - Staking in the EU and Regulatory Concerns 21:22 - Staking Demand and Customer Education 24:08 - Robinhood Wallet Features 27:23 - Self-Custody Wallet Metrics 28:49 - Meme Stock Frenzy and Decentralized Trading 31:42 - Blockchain for Settlement and Efficiency 39:08 - Marketplace vs. Exchange Transition 41:49 - Upcoming Milestones for Robinhood Crypto 43:19 - Market Trends and Future Vision 44:49 - Long-Term Vision for Robinhood Crypto 46:00 - Closing Remarks ✨ Check out our new website ✨ https://thedefiant.io/ 🚀 Sign up to our newsletter 🚀 https://thedefiant.io/go-premium#pricing?utm_source=YT&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=signup 🤑 Find DeFi investment opportunities & educational primers here https://thedefiant.io/promo?utm_source=YT&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=alpha ✊ Follow The Defiant Twitter: https://twitter.com/defiantnews Discord: https://discord.com/invite/3SdRdEs5ag Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedefiant.io/ Telegram: https://t.me/DefiantNews 📬 Contact our Newsroom editorial@thedefiant.io 🤝 Sponsorships & Partnerships sponsors@thedefiant.io #TheDefiant​ #DeFi​ #Decentralized​ #Finance​ #Blockchain #Web3

Johann Kerbrat

GM of Crypto

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Robinhood has been in the spotlight for its $200 million acquisition of European crypto exchange Bitstamp. The TradFi app’s venture into crypto is paying off: its recent earnings showed that revenue is growing substantially, and the Bitstamp acquisition is just one way the company will grow the pie. Johann Kerbrat, general manager of Robinhood Crypto, came on the show to discuss the acquisition, Robinhood's plans for expanding its crypto business internationally and into the institutional market, the company's approach to listing crypto assets, how regulation has affected its business decisions, and its efforts to bridge traditional finance and decentralized finance. Show highlights: 02:14 How the acquisition of Bitstamp will reshape Robinhood 08:51 Whether Robinhood could list more coins and whether it’s considering more acquisitions 11:54 Whether the U.S.’s unclear crypto regulation influenced the decision to acquire Bitstamp and which other jurisdictions, besides the EU, Robinhood Crypto is eyeing 17:46 Why Johann was disappointed by the Wells notice Robinhood received from the SEC 20:47 Johann’s U.S. crypto regulation wish list and why Robinhood supports the FIT21 bill 24:09 Why Robinhood delisted ADA, MATIC, and SOL, and the process for listing or delisting a coin on the platform 29:49 Johann’s background in crypto and trajectory at Robinhood Crypto 31:35 How Robinhood is uniquely poised to help bring real-world assets and securities on-chain, and how it will handle offerings for institutional investors 37:48 The impact and importance of the introduction of spot bitcoin ETFs 44:26 Why Robinhood decided to offer staking, but only for Solana, not Ethereum 46:11 Whether there’s demand for crypto-native features in the Robinhood platform 48:26 Robinhood’s collaboration with Arbitrum and whether the company might build their own Layer 2 54:29 Johann’s take on the memecoin mania and whether Robinhood could list them 59:26 What Johann thinks about the political fight around crypto in the U.S. Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Polkadot Guest: Johann Kerbrat, general manager of Robinhood Crypto Links Acquisition of Bitstamp:  Unchained: Q&A With Robinhood Crypto General Manager: Why the Crypto Giant Went to the EU Fortune: Robinhood defies the SEC by forking over $200 million for a crypto exchange DL News: Robinhood crypto head says Bitstamp will help lure wealthy investors Robinhood’s crypto business: Bloomberg: Robinhood (HOOD) Profit Beats Estimates as Crypto Revenue Surges Robinhood Reports First Quarter 2024 Results Regulatory actions: Reuters: Robinhood Crypto gets Wells notice from US SEC  Robinhood Crypto Launches Staking in Europe with Localized Apps to Follow Memecoin mania Unchained:  Celebrity Tokens Continue to Bleed With Some Memecoin Traders Losing Six-Figures  Why Memecoins Have Been 2024's Most Profitable Crypto Trade: Ansem and Kelxyz Ether ETFs: Unchained:  Ethereum ETFs Likely Protect Ether From the SEC. But What About Staked ETH?  Why the SEC May Not Be Done in Its Legal Battles Over Ethereum Kerbrat’s statement on ETFs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Johann Kerbrat

GM of Crypto

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Johann Kerbrat is the Crypto General Manager at Robinhood, one of the largest exchanges in the world. In today's episode will delve into his journey with Robinhood Crypto. His thoughts on the future of the industry and the groundbreaking work they are doing to democratize finance for all. They have launched a lot of products recently, including a self custodial wallet, staking, Web3 games and more. Before we dive into this, Johann tells us about his background and responsibilities at Robinhood Crypto. 0:00 Intro 0:42 Johann Kerbrat 1:21 Robinhood 1:52 Entering Crypto 2:59 Robinhood Products 4:16 Feedback 6:00 Web3 8:39 Fees 9:46 Crypto Exchanges 11:00 Regulation 14:55 Tokens 16:21 Self Custody Wallet 17:46 DeFi 18:35 Staking 19:48 What's Next? 21:00 Robinhood Chain 21:54 Tokens 24:13 Tokenization 25:33 How Are You Defiant? Our sponsor http://thegraph.com/sunrise https://stellar.org/soroban?utm_source=defiant&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=defiant_podcast https://www.karpatkey.com/?utm_source=Youtube_des&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=Defiant ✨ Check out our new website ✨ https://thedefiant.io/ 🚀 Sign up to our newsletter 🚀 https://thedefiant.io/go-premium#pricing?utm_source=YT&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=signup 🤑 Find DeFi investment opportunities & educational primers here https://thedefiant.io/promo?utm_source=YT&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=alpha ✊ Follow The Defiant Twitter: https://twitter.com/defiantnews Discord: https://discord.com/invite/3SdRdEs5ag Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedefiant.io/ Telegram: https://t.me/DefiantNews 📬 Contact our Newsroom editorial@thedefiant.io 🤝 Sponsorships & Partnerships sponsors@thedefiant.io #TheDefiant​ #DeFi​ #Decentralized​ #Finance​ #Blockchain #Web3

Johann Kerbrat

GM of Crypto

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