Robinhood's Plan to Bring Global Finance Onchain | Johann Kerbrat
What happens when Robinhood turns crypto from a trading feature into the backbone of its global financial platform?
This week, Robinhood's GM of Crypto, Johann Kerbrat, explains how Robinhood Chain connects DeFi, tokenized assets, and mainstream users.
We explore global access, permissionless development, strategic partnerships, token economics, and whether equities and crypto eventually converge. Enjoy!
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Intro
00:59 Robinhood’s Onchain Vision
04:46 Will Robinhood Move Fully Onchain?
11:07 Inside Robinhood Chain’s Explosive Launch
14:33 Building The Chain For Adoption
16:15 Ads (peaq)
17:00 Building Robinhood’s DeFi Stack
21:20 Why DeFi Partners Stay Independent
26:58 Tokenized Equities Go Global
30:38 Robinhood’s Crypto Growth Strategy
34:52 Competition And Financial Convergence
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Why Robinhood Chain Saw Memecoins Take Off Before Real World Assets
Two weeks after launch, 85% of Robinhood Chain's trading is memecoins and just 1% is RWAs. Johann Kerbrat says that doesn’t change the strategy.
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Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev told CNBC on July 2 that real-world assets, not memecoins, were the future of crypto on Robinhood Chain. Two weeks after launch, the numbers disagree: roughly 85% of daily trading on the chain is memecoins, while tokenized RWAs sit at about 1%.
Johann Kerbrat, Vice President and General Manager of Robinhood Crypto, joins Laura Shin to argue the split is not a problem. He makes the case that building the chain permissionless was deliberate, and that memecoin trading through CashCat and PumpFun brings the liquidity RWAs will eventually need.
Kerbrat also defends building the chain's lending and margin system on USDG over USDC or Tether, walks through the separate, unshared liquidity instance behind Robinhood's new perps product with Lighter, and addresses Robinhood's 63% quarterly drop in crypto transaction revenue. His answer: Robinhood Chain was never meant to smooth out that swing, and the real test is whether tokenization can outrun regulation.
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Johann Kerbrat - Vice President and General Manager of Robinhood Crypto
Timestamps
🐸 01:06 Why memecoins are 85% of Robinhood Chain's DEX volume, not RWAs
🚀 05:35 Why PumpFun listing Robinhood Chain tokens was the result of their strategy
🔐 09:33 Where Robinhood's responsibility ends and the permissionless chain begins
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⚡ 16:17 Why Robinhood built a separate Lighter instance for its perps
💵 20:24 Why USDG, not USDC or Tether, backs Robinhood Chain's lending and margin
📉 23:23 Does the chain mitigate the 63% swing crypto can have on Robinhood's earnings?
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The Rise of Robinhood Chain: Tokenized Stocks, Perps, and 27M Users | Johann Kerbrat
Robinhood Chain is live, and it may be one of the clearest signs yet that traditional finance is moving onto Ethereum rails. Johann Kerbrat, VP of Crypto at Robinhood, joins David to unpack the launch of tokenized stocks, USDG yield through Morpho, regulated and crypto-native perps, the Lighter integration, and why Robinhood Wallet is being built for the billions of people who have never used crypto before.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
1:45 Robinhood Chain Goes Live
2:45 Robinhood’s 15-Product Crypto Push
5:47 Tokenized Stocks on Robinhood Chain
11:32 USDG Yield and Robinhood Earn
16:19 Perps Across Robinhood, Bitstamp, and Lighter
19:44 The Lighter Partnership
23:12 Will Robinhood and DeFi Converge?
27:15 Why Robinhood Chose Arbitrum
28:40 Building Crypto for Non-Crypto Users
31:36 How to Get Started on Robinhood Chain
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How Robinhood became a $68B company w/ Vlad Tenev
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Let’s get inside the mind of one of the greatest founders of the last decade!
Timestamps:
0:00 Why Jason runs events like LAUNCH Fest.
3:25 The early days of Jason and Vlad.
5:54 Why getting users before monetizing creates a bigger business.
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13:49 How Robinhood identified its initial customers.
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21:04 Robinhood's "give to get" and waitlist mechanics explained.
25:07 Navigating mistakes that feel existential (they're not!)
27:36 Leaning into negative press.
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32:13 Tackling competition in the AI era.
37:20 How Vlad hires and develops talent.
42:16 What is good design in an era of vibe coded slop?
46:46 Vlad's top lessons from the last 10 years.
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Robinhood CEO: "Gen Z Is the Most Retirement-Savvy Generation Ever" | Vlad Tenev
The next great battle in finance may not be over stocks, crypto, or even payments. It may be over where the $90 trillion great wealth transfer actually lands. In this episode, Robinhood founder and CEO Vlad Tenev returns to Bankless for a fast-moving conversation on how Robinhood wants to position itself for that generational handoff, why he believes 24/7 markets and tokenization are inevitable, and why the popular narrative around Gen Z as financially reckless misses what he’s seeing on-platform.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 The $70–90T Wealth Transfer and Robinhood's Strategy
4:01 Finance in 2040: 24/7 Markets Everywhere
6:06 Tokenized Stocks, Robinhood Chain, and the U.S. Rollout Question
11:22 Robinhood's Full-Stack DeFi Vision
14:31 Prediction Markets as “Truth Machines”
17:06 Robinhood Social, Sherwood Media, and the Content Layer
21:44 Why “Entertainment Finance” Might Be Overstated
25:03 Gen Z Is More Retirement-Savvy Than You Think
30:54 Trump Accounts and Investing From Birth
36:21 The Financial Super App Race
39:30 Why Robinhood Is Not Prioritizing Peer-to-Peer Payments
42:22 Stablecoins, Bank Charters, and Consumer Reality
49:30 The Clarity Act, Stablecoin Yield, and Tokenized Assets
55:16 Perps Could Come Onshore Fast
57:12 Retail Access to Private Markets
1:00:52 Robinhood's Third Act: Social, AI, and Agentic Finance
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Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev on Tokenization and Prediction Markets for Everything
Last year, we had Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev on the podcast to talk to us about his company's plans to tokenize shares of private companies. The idea is that retail investors want to participate in hot names like OpenAI and SpaceX, and that tokenizing private equity would allow this to happen. Right after our episode though, a number of companies expressed frustration at the idea, saying that they were not voluntarily participating in the plan. So where do things stand now? And how is Robinhood thinking about how it will play in the red hot prediction market space? On this episode, Vlad returns to talk about where things stand, and all of the company's new efforts to give retail traders even more instruments to use.
Read more:Polymarket Bets on Iran War Show Limits of Prediction Markets for Wall StreetRobinhood Adds $695 ‘Actual’ Platinum Card to Compete With Amex
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DEX in the City: Why Everyone Is Overreacting About the Terra v. Jane Street Lawsuit
Robinhood's Coy Garrison and Seong Seog Lee join the crew to unpack the Robinhood Chain launch strategy.
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Robinhood's proposed chain for the trading of tokenized assets is live in testnet.
In this DEX in the City episode, Coy Garrison, Robinhood's deputy general counsel on crypto, and Robinhood Crypto Head of Product Seong Seog Lee walk hosts Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos and Jessi Brooks through the thinking behind the blockchain's testnet launch and why it is important that it supports tokenized equities out of the gate.
Beyond the Robinhood Chain testnet launch, KK and Jessi discuss OpenAI and Paradigm's EVMbench tool and why it highlights the need for a safety-first approach. “AI and crypto are in the same room now, but the room's sort of on fire,” Jessi says.
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Hosts:
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Guests:
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Seong Seog Lee, Head of Product at Robinhood Crypto
Links:
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Inside Robinhood’s Big Super App Plan: ‘There’s Still a Lot of Work to Be Done’
OpenAI and Paradigm Launch EVMbench to Stress Test AI on Smart Contract Security
Uneasy Money: How the Increasingly Better AI Agents Are Being Used Onchain
When AI Agents Take Over, What Does a Post-Human Economy Look Like?
Terraform Estate Targets Jane Street in Explosive Terra Collapse Lawsuit
DeFi Platforms Could Get ‘Innovation Exemption,’ SEC Chair Says
SEC Quietly Eases Capital Rules for Stablecoins
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Mathematical Superintelligence: Harmonic's Vlad Tenev & Tudor Achim on IMO Gold & Theories of Everything
Vlad Tenev and Tudor Achim from Harmonic explain how they built Aristotle, an AI system that reaches International Mathematical Olympiad gold-medal performance using formally verified Lean proofs. They unpack the architecture behind mathematical superintelligence, including Monte Carlo Tree Search, lemma guessing, and specialized geometry modules. The conversation explores how verifiable reasoning could harden mission-critical software, reshape mathematical practice, and lead to trustworthy superintelligent systems by 2030.
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(04:58) Math as reasoning (Part 1)
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(18:51) Math as reasoning (Part 2)
(18:51) Inside the Lean language
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(37:08) Lean intuition and MathLib (Part 2)
(38:47) Inside Aristotle's architecture
(48:33) Scope, boundaries, and applications
(54:37) Training, taste, and interpretability
(01:08:18) Formal math and software
(01:16:50) Limits, entropy, and roadmap
(01:25:24) 2030 vision and safety
(01:33:38) Outro
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Robinhood’s Crypto Head Johann Kerbrat on Why Public Blockchains Will Win
Robinhood is opening the testnet for its Arbitrum-based Ethereum Layer 2. In this episode, we sit down with the fintech’s head of crypto, Johann Kerbrat, to discuss the strategic move to build on Ethereum. He believes institutions can get the privacy and compliance guarantees they need on public chains like Ethereum, so building on private chains doesn’t make sense as they are just a “fancy database.” Kerbrat says he sees a future where most financial infrastructure and assets transact on public blockchains. Topics:Robinhood Layer 2 LaunchTokenized Stocks & Real-World AssetsThe "Adapt or Die" moment for BanksSelf-Custody vs. Platform Safety
Robinhood Chain Takes on NYSE/Nasdaq | Robinhood Crypto GM Johann Kerbrat
Robinhood isn’t just adding another crypto feature—it’s assembling a new exchange stack: stock tokens, an Ethereum L2 built for real-world assets, and a wallet that can plug into DeFi. Johann Kerbrat (GM of Crypto at Robinhood) joins Bankless to unpack what “24/7 markets” actually requires, why liquidity and routing are the hidden battleground for tokenized equities, and how “Certified by Robinhood” could become a distribution moat for onchain apps. Along the way, they compare Robinhood’s approach to tokenization with the NYSE’s 24/7 tokenized platform plans and Nasdaq’s tokenized securities proposal, and dig into what U.S. regulatory clarity would need to unlock stock tokens stateside. Subscribe for more on the new financial rails being built in real time.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
3:43 Is Robinhood Building a New Exchange?
4:45 Robinhood Chain testnet: what it enables for builders
9:17 What’s actually unique about this L2
10:44 “Certified by Robinhood” explained
12:52 Mainnet timing & NYSE/Nasdaq vs Robinhood tokenization approaches
16:34 Stock tokens today: EU access, U.S. questions
18:16 The liquidity problem (and how routing fixes it)
21:28 What tokenized equities unlock beyond trading
23:23 Robinhood Wallet’s role in the stack
24:57 The CLARITY Act: what matters to Robinhood
30:49 Strategic bets: Talos, Bitstamp, and going institutional
38:51 Lighter + perps: DeFi vs CeFi (and the U.S. CFTC wall)
43:21 What’s next: “one ecosystem” + prediction markets
45:13 Builder call-to-action
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ACCESS with Alex Heath and Ellis Hamburger
Happy 2026 from all of us at On with Kara Swisher! We’re ringing in the new year with an episode of ACCESS, a new tech insider podcast from the Vox Media Podcast Network that’s hosted by two highly connected tech journalists, Alex Heath and Ellis Hamburger. Each week, Alex and Ellis have revealing conversations with Silicon Valley’s most influential leaders, from the tech titans of today to tomorrow’s most interesting entrepreneurs.
On this episode of ACCESS, they speak to Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev to discuss the rise of prediction markets, juggling priorities as a public CEO, and much more.
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Inside Robinhood's Big Super App Plan: ‘There's Still a Lot of Work to Be Done’ - Ep. 983
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Robinhood is moving toward offering a full suite of crypto services and overhauling the infrastructure underpinning its stock trading services with blockchain technology.
In this episode of Unchained, Robinhood Crypto Senior Vice President and General Manager Johann Kerbrat discusses the company's “super app ambitions” and potential competition with Coinbase.
He also discusses the platform's entry into prediction markets and resistance from state regulators. Could state opposition to prediction markets drive businesses offshore?
Plus, will tokenized stocks make IPOs redundant? And where are we in the crypto market?
Guest:
Johann Kerbrat, Senior Vice President and General Manager of Robinhood Crypto
Links:
Previous appearances on Unchained:
Why Robinhood, a TradFi Hub, Is Growing Its Crypto Business Globally
Unchained:
Robinhood Is Building Its Own Layer 2 Blockchain
Perps Are Coming to America. Will Coinbase and Robinhood Win the Race?
OpenAI Says Robinhood’s Stock Tokens Are Not Equity
Coinbase Expands Into Tokenized Stocks and Prediction Markets
Coinbase Launches Digital Token Sales Platform
Coinbase Buys Cobie’s ‘Up Only’ NFT and Echo in $375 Million Deal
Timestamps:
🚀 00:00 Introduction
🤔 1:33 What drove Robinhood's 3x year-on-year crypto revenue growth in Q3?
💡 5:34 Why Johann says we are still far from a bear market
💥 7:49 How the crypto users on Robinhood have evolved overtime
⚔️ 11:08 How Robinhood views competition from Coinbase
🧏 14:30 What Robinhood's Susquehanna deal for prediction markets brings to the table
👀 18:48 Could state opposition to prediction markets drive businesses offshore?
💡 20:34 Why Robinhood chose Ethereum over Solana
🤔 25:19 When will Robinhood bring perps to other jurisdictions?
📍 27:00 Why Robinhood chose to invest in Lighter over the competition
⚠️ 29:17 Why Johann says the crypto industry needs to build resilience after 10/10
📈 33:50 How Robinhood's tokenized stock offering might come to the US
💥 39:16 Why Johann says private companies would eventually seek retail participation
💡 43:26 What tokenization of physical assets would look like
💫 47:12 How tokenization could impact the financial lives of users
🚨 49:18 Why Johann thinks crypto founders should talk less about the protocol
🧏♂️ 51:19 How Robinhood is looking to combine with DeFi
🤔 53:03 Will Robinhood follow Coinbase to launch an ICO platform?
⚡️ 54:22 Why Robinhood is expanding to Indonesia
🗣 56:28 What being a “super app” means for Robinhood
🔮 58:11 Johann reveals his crypto predictions for 2026
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AI is coming for your job. Now what? | Vlad Tenev
As anxiety grows around what AI means for the future of work, technologist Vlad Tenev delivers a clear-eyed look at what happens when the majority of today's jobs disappear — and why it's not what you think.
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Robinhood CEO: Making Everyone An Owner
Vlad Tenev built Robinhood by breaking every rule Wall Street wrote: zero commissions when competitors charged $10, mobile-first when "serious" investors demanded desktop, a brand that made finance feel like rebellion instead of a club you'd never join.
By 2021 they'd forced every major brokerage to slash fees and attracted millions who'd never owned a stock, but then GameStop happened: trading restrictions during the meme stock frenzy triggered congressional hearings, user fury, and a two-year brand crisis that nearly buried them despite the real culprit being antiquated clearing mechanics no one understood.
Now Tenev's pushing an even more radical vision—tokenizing private company shares so retail investors can own stakes in AI giants before IPO, turning prediction markets into "truth machines" that beat polls and pundits, and building what he calls the end of financial nihilism: a platform where your seventy-year-old parents and your Gen Z cousin both manage everything from retirement accounts to election bets in one place.
The question isn't whether traditional finance survives this; it's whether Robinhood can move fast enough to own the entire wealth transfer before someone else does.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
3:52 - Financial Relationships vs. Pinterest Boards: The Higher Bar
5:27 - Building in a Regulatory Catch-22
7:53 - Three Simultaneous Contrarian Bets
12:15 - From Institutional HFT to Retail Revolution
17:40 - January 28th: The Day Trust Died
27:40 - “Simple Lie More Powerful Than Complicated Truth”
30:02 - Tokenization: The Antidote to T+1 Settlement
32:52 - IPO Access: From Asking For Favors to Everyone Wanting In
39:22 - “Series D Was Called an IPO”
43:06 - WTF Happened in 1971?
47:42 - Going Broad While Going Deep
53:26 - The $120 Trillion Wealth Transfer
58:16 - Debunking “Financial Nihilism”
58:40 - “Speculation Is Critical For Functioning Markets”
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Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev on tokenizing stocks, expanding access to private shares, fintech's future
(0:00) Introducing Vlad Tenev
(0:51) Jason tells his story of investing in Robinhood
(3:17) Tokenizing securities, offering tokenized shares in OpenAI and SpaceX, controversy
(7:29) Operating under Trump vs Biden, why offering tokenized securities for private companies could be revolutionary
(17:01) Criticisms around expanding access to sophisticated financial products
(19:34) Current landscape of financial companies, Robinhood's future, competing with incumbents
(23:28) Harmonic and building mathematical superintelligence
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The Chopping Block: Robinhood’s Vlad Tenev on Tokenized Privates, 24/7 Stocks & AI-Verified Code - Ep. 891
Altcoin froth meets real-asset rails. Vlad explains why Robinhood built an L2, how tokenized stocks—and even private shares like OpenAI/SpaceX—could trade on-chain, and what that means for accreditation, access, and the public/private wall. Plus: DATs, DTCC in a tokenized world, and AI that formally proves smart contracts.
Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, Robinhood co‑founder/CEO Vlad Tenev joins to explain Robinhood Chain, why they chose a Layer 2 over a Layer 1, and the plan to bring tokenized stocks — including private shares — on‑chain. We get into the OpenAI/SpaceX kerfuffle, accreditation rules, and whether permissionless tokenization erodes the public/private boundary. Then we zoom out to 24/7 trading, Digital Asset Treasuries, and how formal verification (Lean proofs) could make smart contracts safer.
Show highlights
🔹 Robinhood Chain L2 vs. L1 – Why Vlad Tenev chose a Layer 2 over a Layer 1 for tokenized stocks and real-world assets.
🔹 Tokenized Stocks & Private Shares – How Robinhood could put U.S. equities and private company equity (OpenAI, SpaceX) on-chain via SPVs and secondaries.
🔹 OpenAI/SpaceX Tokenization Debate – Issuer consent vs. permissionless exposure: what the kerfuffle reveals about private markets on-chain.
🔹 Retail Access & Accreditation Reform – Moving from wealth-gated accreditation to disclosure + self-certification so more investors can participate.
🔹 Ex-US Rollout for Tokenized Equities – Stablecoin-style playbook with KYC/geofencing and permissionless assets where allowed.
🔹 24/7 Trading for Stocks – From 24/5 to 24/7 markets; what this means for DTCC, transfer agents, and market plumbing.
🔹 Wallet + Chain + Custody Stack – Vertical integration advantages: pricing, UX, and liquidity when Robinhood owns more of the rails.
🔹 Digital Asset Treasuries (DATs) – Yield dynamics, mNAV compression, and how DATs stack up against staking ETFs.
🔹 Memecoins vs. Real Assets – “You can buy memes but not OpenAI” paradox and why investor-protection rules feel backward.
🔹 AI-Verified Smart Contracts – Lean proofs, formal verification, and reducing smart-contract risk beyond manual audits.
🔹 Harmonic’s “Aristotle” – Vlad’s AI hitting IMO gold-medal-level math performance and what that means for code safety.
🔹 Robinhood’s Next Decade – Retail super app → B2B/institutional rails and ex-US expansion for tokenized finance.
Hosts:
⭐️ Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️ Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate⭐️ Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures⭐️ Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly
Guest:
⭐️ Vlad Tenev, CEO & Co-founder of Robinhood
Timestamps
00:00 Intro
01:52 L2 vs. L1 Trade-Offs
04:19 Tokenized Stocks on Robinhood Chain
07:56 Private Markets Onchain
16:10 Accreditation Reform & Compliance
21:47 24/7 Trading for Equities
31:05 Public vs. Private Boundary
32:59 Memecoin Paradox vs. Real-Asset Tokenization
35:27 Digital Asset Treasuries (DATs)
37:50 Robinhood’s Business Mix
41:38 Retail to Institutions: Global Expansion
46:44 Harmonic AI & Lean Proofs
54:48 Safer Smart Contracts Beyond Manual Audits
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20VC: Vlad Tenev on Robinhood's $85BN Resurgence | Tokenizing SpaceX & OpenAI | Building Nine Revenue Lines Over $100M | Why Crypto Will Be Robinhood's Biggest Revenue Line | Why Stablecoins Will Replace Banking Rails
Vlad Tenev is the Founder and CEO of Robinhood, the greatest story on Wall St of the last decade. In the previous 18 months, Robinhood has increased its net revenue by 58% to nearly $3B; a $500M loss in 2023 turned into a $1.1B profit in 2024. Robinhood's stock is up roughly 4x, lifting their market cap to north of $80B. Today, Robinhood has nine lines of business that do over $100M in revenue.
Agenda:
00:00 – "Tokenization Is The Biggest Innovation in Finance"
03:28 – How Robinhood 4x'd Its Market Cap in 8 Months
06:40 – AI Writes 50% of All Net New Code at Robinhood
10:02 – Why Robinhood Built a Secret ChatGPT for Support
12:11 – The One Customer Type That Transformed the Business
15:29 – "CoreWeave Is Retail's Way Into AI" — The Meme Stock Defense
18:05 – Inside Robinhood's Tokenized Private Shares Product
21:23 – "Capital as a Service" — Vlad's Wild Vision for Startup Fundraising
24:10 – The $100M Revenue Line Vlad Wishes He Could Kill
26:45 – Robinhood Is Building... Cash Delivery Trucks?!
29:55 – "We Were Shipping Nothing": Vlad on the 2020–2022 Culture Crisis
33:20 – What Line of Business Will Be the Biggest For Vlad in 5 Years Time
35:11 – The One Competitor Vlad Actually Respects
36:55 – From Men's Health to Japanese Toilets: Vlad's Weirdest Quickfire Yet
38:40 – "I Was in the Dumps": What 2022 Taught Vlad About Resilience
40:00 – Where Robinhood Is Headed: The Next Decade of Financial Infrastructure
Vlad Tenev on Robinhood’s Bold Move into Crypto, DeFi, and Ethereum L2s
In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, we sit down with Vlad Tenev, Co-founder and CEO of Robinhood, to explore how Robinhood is bringing tokenized U.S. stocks to the EU, launching an Ethereum L2 with Arbitrum tech, and shaping the future of finance. From tokenized private shares to the long-term vision of blockchain adoption, Vlad shares insights on regulation, innovation, and the battle between Robinhood and Coinbase. Is crypto the backbone of global finance? Tune in to find out!
Chapters:
00:00 Intro: How do you get people in the U.S. excited about stocks onchain?
00:52 Introduction to Vlad Tenev, Co-Founder and CEO of Robinhood
01:30 Tokenized U.S. stocks, private company stocks, Robin Hood blockchain, USDG, and other announcements
02:35 Robinhood offers tokenized U.S. stocks to customers in the EU
06:52 Primary market for private companies’ tokenized shares
13:55 Robinhood launches Ethereum L2 using Arbitrum tech
18:45 Will Robinhood launch a token?
20:00 What regulation will need to happen in the U.S. to launch these products here?
24:47 How do these crypto announcements fit into the long term vision of RH?
28:43 RH chain as an enabler for this vision of global adoption
30:45 Will crypto remain a niche asset class or become the backbone of finance?
35:10 Robinhood vs. Coinbase
37:10 The DeFi Mullet: UX and DeFi on Robinhood
41:55 What makes Vlad a believer in crypto innovation?
46:10 Closing remarks
From fintech to space tech: Robinhood co-founder Baiju Bhatt is betting on space solar
As the interest in both space and solar grows, one startup aims to merge the two industries. By tapping into the momentum of the commercial space industry and the increasing demand for renewable energy, Robinhood co-founder Baiju Bhatt is on a mission to make space-based solar power a reality with his latest startup: Aetherflux.
Today on Equity, Rebecca Bellan caught up with Bhatt to talk about his transition from fintech to deep tech and why he believes now is the right time to scatter solar power-collecting satellites across the skies.
Listen to the full episode to hear more about:
How Aetherflux approached funding as a bootstrapped startup (for now), and what investor interest in space-based solar looks like.
The challenge of scaling tech that’s literally out of this world.
And Bellan and Bhatt’s idea for a Burning Man light show.
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Robinhood Announces Tokenized Stocks! LIVE with CEO Vlad Tenev, Johann Kerbrat, and AJ Warner
In this series of three interviews from Cannes, we host Vlad Tenev, CEO of Robinhood, Johann Kerbrat, GM of Crypto at Robinhood, and AJ Warner from Arbitrum to explore key announcements from their recent Token Summit. They discuss the introduction of tokenized stock options for private companies like SpaceX and OpenAI, aiming to democratize access for retail investors.
Vlad highlights Robinhood’s commitment to addressing investment inequities, while Johann shares insights on the technological challenges and their Layer 2 blockchain initiative facilitating 24/7 trading. They also navigate the regulatory landscape with the SEC and CFTC, envisioning a future where private shares become accessible and entrepreneurial capital raising is enhanced. The conversation wraps up with plans to improve user experience for new financial products in Robinhood’s evolving crypto offerings.
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RESOURCES
Vlad Tenev
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Vlad’s Washington Post Op-Ed
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Johann Kerbrat
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Robinhood's CEO on the Plan to Tokenize Everything
Robinhood, the company known for first introducing commission-free trading, has now become a behemoth with all kinds of different business lines including credit cards, savings vehicles, crypto, and wealth management. This week it's announced further expansion with news that it's launching its own chain, as well as tokenized stock trading (that for now is only available in the EU). On this episode, we speak with founder and CEO Vlad Tenev about its new endeavors, as well as the legacy of the 2021 meme stock mania, the evolution of the YOLO traders, the changing regulatory environment, and when we can expect to have 24/7 on-chain stock trading in the US.
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Microsoft CPO: If you aren’t prototyping with AI, you’re doing it wrong | Aparna Chennapragada
Aparna Chennapragada is the chief product officer of experiences and devices at Microsoft, where she oversees AI product strategy for their productivity tools and work on agents. Previously, she was the CPO at Robinhood, spent 12 years at Google, and is also on the board of eBay and Capital One.
What you’ll learn:
1. How “prompt sets are the new PRDs” and why prototyping with AI is now essential for effective product development
2. The three key characteristics of AI agents: autonomy (delegation of tasks), complexity (handling multi-step challenges), and natural interaction (conversing beyond simple chat)
3. Why NLX (natural language experience) is the new UX, requiring deliberate design principles for conversational interfaces
4. Why the PM role isn’t dying in the AI era—it’s evolving to emphasize tastemaking and editing
5. How living “one year in the future” can be operationalized with programs like Microsoft’s Frontier
6. How even traditional enterprises can balance cutting-edge AI adoption with appropriate governance through dual-track approaches
7. Insights on leadership differences between Microsoft’s Satya Nadella (known for multi-level thinking and early trendspotting) and Google’s Sundar Pichai (mastery of complex ecosystems)
8. The vision for human and AI collaboration in the workplace, where people and agents achieve outcomes greater than either could alone
9. A practical framework for evaluating zero-to-one product opportunities
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(00:00) Introduction to Aparna Chennapragada
(04:28) Aparna’s stand-up comedy journey
(07:29) Transition to Microsoft and enterprise insights
(10:00) The Frontier program and AI integration
(13:28) Understanding AI agents
(17:59) NLX is the new UX
(22:28) The future of product development
(31:16) Building a custom Chrome extension
(35:45) Leadership styles of Satya and Sundar
(37:47) Counterintuitive lessons in product building
(41:20) Inflection points for successful products
(45:16) GitHub Copilot and code generation
(48:34) Excel’s enduring success
(50:27) Pivotal career moments
(54:55) The future of human-agent collaboration
(56:25) Lightning round and final thoughts
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Referenced:
• Google Lens: https://lens.google/
• Saturday Night Live: https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live
• Reid Hoffman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/reidhoffman/
• Robinhood: https://robinhood.com/
• eBay: https://www.ebay.com/
• Capital One: https://www.capitalone.com/
• Microsoft: https://www.microsoft.com/
• Aparna’s LinkedIn post about enterprise vs. consumer: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/aparnacd_every-enterprise-user-feature-has-a-shadow-activity-7321176091610542080-8X-E/
• The Epic Split: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epic_Split
• AI Frontiers: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/lab/ai-frontiers/
• OpenAI’s CPO on how AI changes must-have skills, moats, coding, startup playbooks, more | Kevin Weil (CPO at OpenAI, ex-Instagram, Twitter): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/kevin-weil-open-ai
• Deepseek: https://www.deepseek.com/
• Satya Nadella on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/satyanadella/
• Tobi Lütke’s leadership playbook: Playing infinite games, operating from first principles, and maximizing human potential (founder and CEO of Shopify): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/tobi-lutkes-leadership-playbook
• Tobi Lütke’s post on X about reflexive AI: https://x.com/tobi/status/1909251946235437514
• GitHub Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot
• Sundar Pichai on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sundarpichai/
• South Park “Underwear Gnomes” episode: https://southpark.cc.com/episodes/13y790/south-park-gnomes-season-2-ep-17
• Google Home: https://home.google.com/welcome/
• Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
• v0: https://v0.dev/
• Bolt: https://bolt.new/
• Lovable: https://lovable.dev/
• Replit: https://replit.com/
• Inside Bolt: From near-death to ~$40m ARR in 5 months—one of the fastest-growing products in history | Eric Simons (founder and CEO of StackBlitz): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/inside-bolt-eric-simons
• Building Lovable: $10M ARR in 60 days with 15 people | Anton Osika (CEO and co-founder): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/building-lovable-anton-osika
• Everyone’s an engineer now: Inside v0’s mission to create a hundred million builders | Guillermo Rauch (founder and CEO of Vercel, creators of v0 and Next.js): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/everyones-an-engineer-now-guillermo-rauch
• The rise of Cursor: The $300M ARR AI tool that engineers can’t stop using | Michael Truell (co-founder and CEO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-rise-of-cursor-michael-truell
• Behind the product: Replit | Amjad Masad (co-founder and CEO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/behind-the-product-replit-amjad-masad
• Microsoft Excel World Championship: https://fmworldcup.com/microsoft-excel-world-championship/
• Google Now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Now
• Hacks on Max: https://www.max.com/shows/hacks/67e940b7-aab2-46ce-a62b-c7308cde9de7
• Granola: https://www.granola.ai/
• Alan Kay quote: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/alan_kay_100831
• Sindhu Vee’s website: https://sindhuvee.com/
• Nate Bargatze’s website: https://natebargatze.com/
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• A Brief History of Intelligence: Evolution, AI, and the Five Breakthroughs That Made Our Brains: https://www.amazon.com/Brief-History-Intelligence-Evolution-Breakthroughs/dp/0063286351
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Are prediction markets gambling? Robinhood's Vlad Tenev is betting not
Today, I’m talking with Vlad Tenev, the co-founder and CEO of Robinhood, which started as a way to open up stock trading. But the company’s ambitions have grown over time – and they’re getting bigger. Just a day before Vlad and I talked, Robinhood announced it would soon be offering bank accounts and wealth management services, which would really allow Robinhood to be involved with your money at every possible level.
So I was very interested to sit down with Vlad and really hash out where Robinhood is going, and why he’s so adamant that certain big ideas, like prediction markets based around everything from sports games to presidential elections, are going to play a pivotal role in the future of finance.
Links:
Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev on markets for everything | Hard Fork
Robinhood is launching bank accounts | Verge
Kalshi sues Nevada and New Jersey regulators | Esports Insider
Kalshi CEO: ‘State law doesn’t really apply’ to us | TechCrunch
Robinhood debuts a sports gambling hub | Verge
The SEC has ended its investigation into Robinhood crypto | Verge
Robinhood admits it’s just a gambling app | Verge
Massachusetts regulator subpoenas Robinhood over sports betting | CNN
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Vlad Tenev Wants to Tokenize SpaceX & OpenAI on Robinhood
Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev returns to Bankless for a wide-ranging conversation on the future of tokenization, crypto regulation, and Robinhood’s evolving product suite.
Vlad lays out a bold vision for bringing tokenized assets like SpaceX and OpenAI equity to retail investors, discusses the role of prediction markets as "truth machines," and introduces Robinhood's latest products: Strategies, Cortex, and Banking.
This one’s a big glimpse into where TradFi and DeFi collide.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
5:54 New Administration
12:19 Tokenization
16:18 Tokenized SpaceX
18:12 An IPO Alternative
23:39 Prediction Markets
25:40 Kalshi
29:58 Future of Prediction Markets
35:58 Robinhood Banking
38:27 Robinhood Cortex
44:08 Robinhood Strategies
49:04 Cash Delivery
52:10 Crypto Listings
54:37 Why Distinct Apps?
56:32 How Bankless is Robinhood?
1:00:42 Closing Thoughts
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RESOURCES
Vlad Tenev
https://x.com/vladtenev
Robinhood
https://robinhood.com/
Washington Post Op-ed
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/01/28/investing-crypto-tech-robinhood-stock-market/
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The Incredible Double Interview: Superhuman and Robinhood | E2090
Today’s show: Jason interviews Rahul Vohra, CEO and founder of Superhuman, and Vlad Tenev, CEO and co-founder of Robinhood. This is a packed episode featuring founder tips, fun stories about how Superhuman and Robinhood got their start and much more!
Timestamps:
(0:00) Episode teaser(2:13) Product market fit and founder journeys(3:25) Jason's investment in Superhuman and market positioning(5:14) AI's role and features in Superhuman(10:25) Lemon.io. Get 15% off your first 4 weeks of developer time at https://Lemon.io/twist(14:37) Targeting users and competitive advantages(22:23) Evolution and new features of Superhuman
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(24:37) Tackling spam with Superhuman's AI
(27:05) Custom auto labels and email classification
(29:47) Vapi. Go to Vapi.ai and use code Twist200 to get $200 in credits
(32:03) Superhuman's auto reminders and drafts
(34:14) Vlad Tenev and the origins of Robinhood
(39:31) Product design philosophies of Robinhood and Superhuman
(49:29) Scaling design principles and investment decisions(
52:31) Subjectivity in product design
(55:14) Customer feedback in product development
(1:00:00) Superhuman's subscription model and customer acquisition
(1:05:11) PR strategies and news hijacking
(1:12:06) Investment experiences with Robinhood
(1:13:35) Navigating company valuation fluctuations
(1:15:03) Influences on Vlad Tenev and new Robinhood desktop product
(1:22:02) Company resilience and employee reorganization
(1:25:52) Crypto regulation and startup mentality
(1:30:05) Investment trends among Robinhood users
(1:31:12) Retail benefits for startups and capital raising challenges
(1:34:04) Accreditation for private investing and solutions
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Check out Superhuman’s blog post that details all of the new features Rahul went over in the demo: https://blog.superhuman.com/the-next-superhuman-ai/.
Check out Robinhood Legend: https://robinhood.com/us/en/legend/
Article “How Superhuman Built an Engine to Find Product Market Fit”: https://review.firstround.com/how-superhuman-built-an-engine-to-find-product-market-fit/
Check out Rick Rubin’s book: https://www.amazon.ca/Creative-Act-Way-Being/dp/0593652886
Article on Bezos and Washington Post: https://www.newsweek.com/bezos-makes-big-change-washington-post-opinion-focus-endorsed-musk-2036618
Media Bias Chart: https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart
Check out “Working Backwards” book about Amazon insights: https://www.amazon.ca/Working-Backwards-Insights-Stories-Secrets/dp/1250267595
Check out Rahul’s article on acquisition: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/rip-mailbox-founders-how-stop-worrying-love-being-acquired-vohra/
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How Based is Grok 3? + Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev on Markets For Everything + Vibecoding 101
This week, Elon Musk brought a new chatbot into the crowded A.I. universe — Grok 3, the latest model from his company xAI. We break down how it compares with other leading models and what it reveals about Musk’s larger ambitions. Then, Vlad Tenev, the chief executive of the investing platform Robinhood, lays out his vision for the future of investing and fields some difficult questions about his company’s role in fueling a culture of risky financial speculation. Finally, Kevin revisits his high school coding era and tries to make Casey a new software tool, with an A.I. assist.
Guest:
Vlad Tenev, chief executive of Robinhood and co-founder of Harmonic.
Additional Reading:
There Are Probably Too Many A.I. Companies Now
An Investing Revolution Is Coming. The U.S. Isn’t Ready for It.
Is Math the Path to Chatbots That Don’t Make Stuff Up?
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Robinhood Co-founder Baiju Bhatt on the Journey to $40B, Building Space Solar Power with Lasers
You’re probably familiar with Baiju Bhatt’s work as the co-founder of Robinhood. But he’s also obsessed with space, and recently started Aetherflux, a space solar power company.
We get into the physics of using lasers to beam solar power to the Earth, Aetherflux’s early roadmap, and how he went from zero to one going from building software to physical products.
We also talk through the early days of Robinhood, getting turned down by hundreds of early investors, the accidental launch, how to know if you really have product market fit, how Aaron Levie at Box helped get Robinhood.com, the value of creativity and design, Baiju’s philosophies on combining qualitative and quantitative user research, and his favorite animal and classic car. He also tried to cut my hair.
Timestamps:
(00:00) Intro
(02:31) Aetherflux: a space solar energy company
(02:50) Origins of space solar power in the 40's & 70's
(10:31) Safely beaming energy from space to Earth with lasers
(13:46) Building floating space solar farms
(21:27) Aetherflux's early roadmap
(27:08) Growing up with dad as a Physics professor
(32:18) Going zero to one building physical products
(35:15) Baiju's favorite car, attempting a haircut, contemplating mustaches
(38:27) Trying to prove Einstein wrong
(41:42) Meeting Robinhood Co-founder Vlad at Stanford
(44:10) Starting an algorithmic trading company
(46:41) The beginnings of Robinhood
(52:04) Getting turned down by hundreds of early investors
(56:49) How they convinced Tim Draper to invest
(59:39) Getting Robinhood.com because of Aaron Levie
(01:01:28) Accidentally launching on a Friday afternoon
(01:03:09) How to know if you have Product Market Fit
(01:06:35) Combining qualitative and quantitative user research
(01:14:23) Loving cats despite being allergic
Referenced:
Robinhood: https://www.robinhood.com
Aetherflux: https://www.aetherflux.com/
TechCrunch coverage: https://techcrunch.com/2024/10/09/billionaire-robinhood-co-founder-launches-aetherflux-a-space-based-solar-power-startup/
Seinfeld mustache scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzZsLaLChRg
The Michelson–Morley experiment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelson%E2%80%93Morley_experiment
Episode with Aaron Levie @ Box: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLn_tqPvNf4
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bprafulkumar
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Robinhood’s 'comeback' and big plans for 2025 with co-founder and CEO Vlad Tenev
Instead of our usual Friday news rundown, we’re bringing you a conversation about what Yahoo Finance dubbed the “comeback stock of the year” - Robinhood. TechCrunch Editor in Chief and General Manager Connie Loizos chatted with Robinhood’s CEO and co-founder, Vlad Tenev, about the company’s evolution.
Listen to the full episode to hear more about:
Why Tenev believes the company is poised for significant growth.
Robinhood's approach to prediction markets, sports betting, and wealth management.
How the Robinhood plans to empower a younger generation of investors.
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Why Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev Is Betting Big on Crypto, Stablecoins, and Prediction Markets - Ep. 754
Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform.
In this episode of Unchained, Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev offers a rare glimpse into the company’s strategy. How did memes like Dogecoin become one of Robinhood’s biggest assets, onboarding millions of users? What drove its decision to embrace stablecoins, staking, and a dedicated crypto wallet—and what risks do these moves carry?
As Europe’s MiCA regulations set the stage for a global crypto framework, Vlad discusses how Robinhood is positioning itself for growth, the role of prediction markets, and why blockchain could dramatically lower costs for investors. He also shares personal insights from his own experiences with hyperinflation, revealing how stablecoins might safeguard wealth for millions around the world.
With crypto ETFs, regulatory shifts, and a new administration looming, here’s what he thinks is next for Robinhood—and the crypto industry.
Show highlights:
How Robinhood has been experiencing growth in the crypto retail market
The effect of election night and Robinhood’s event contracts on trading volumes
What Robinhood saw happened with the launch of spot ETFs in the U.S.
How the exchange was able to attract crypto investors
The role of MiCA in Robinhood allowing users to stake ETH and SOL
How the company aims to enhance the user experience with the Robinhood wallet
Why Robinhood decided to invest in Global Dollar Network, which has stablecoin USDG
What’s on Vlad’s crypto regulation wish list under the new administration and Congress
Whether the criteria to list crypto assets on Robinhood will change under a crypto-friendly Trump administration
Why Vlad is so excited about prediction markets
Why he sees blockchain technology as a tool that will ultimately help users
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Links
Unchained: Why Robinhood, a TradFi Hub, Is Growing Its Crypto Business Globally
Reuters: Robinhood's top attorney Gallagher rules out SEC chair role
Robinhood Reports Third Quarter 2024 Results
Robinhood to Acquire Bitstamp
Spot Bitcoin ETF Options: Why You 'Can't Overstate' Their Importance
The Legend Awakens: Introducing Robinhood Legend, Futures Trading, and Index Options
Finimize: Robinhood, Kraken, And Partners Launch New Stablecoin USDG -
Decrypt: Robinhood Launches US Presidential Election Prediction Market—For Americans Only
Timestamps
00:00 Intro
02:43 Robinhood’s growth in the crypto retail market
05:05 Election night’s surprising impact on trading volumes
07:11 What Robinhood observed after U.S. spot ETF launches
11:56 How the platform attracted millions of crypto investors
16:49 MiCA’s role in enabling ETH and SOL staking on Robinhood
19:09 Enhancing user experience with the Robinhood wallet
21:32 Why Robinhood is betting on stablecoins
25:37 Vlad’s crypto regulation wish list from the new administration
30:05 Will Robinhood change its crypto listing criteria?
32:18 Vlad’s excitement about prediction markets
36:12 How blockchain could lower costs and empower users
41:21 News Recap
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Robinhood Crypto's Roadmap: Johann Kerbrat on Expansion, Staking, and Blockchain Integration
Johann Kerbrat is the Vice President and General Manager of Robinhood Crypto, leading the charge in bringing crypto to millions of retail investors. In this episode, Johann shares the journey of Robinhood Crypto, from its early days of launching in 2018 to its recent innovations, including staking, self-custody wallets, and a potential shift towards a full-fledged crypto exchange. He discusses how Robinhood is leveraging blockchain to enhance efficiency, lower costs, and expand access to financial instruments.
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction
00:14 - History of Robinhood Crypto
01:23 - Why Robinhood Added Crypto
02:42 - Robinhood's Perspective on Crypto
07:12 - How Robinhood Monetizes Crypto
12:31 - Competing with Crypto Exchanges
14:22 - Token Listing Strategy
16:53 - Balancing Features and Asset Expansion
18:17 - Staking in the EU and Regulatory Concerns
21:22 - Staking Demand and Customer Education
24:08 - Robinhood Wallet Features
27:23 - Self-Custody Wallet Metrics
28:49 - Meme Stock Frenzy and Decentralized Trading
31:42 - Blockchain for Settlement and Efficiency
39:08 - Marketplace vs. Exchange Transition
41:49 - Upcoming Milestones for Robinhood Crypto
43:19 - Market Trends and Future Vision
44:49 - Long-Term Vision for Robinhood Crypto
46:00 - Closing Remarks
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