David McCabe

This week, a federal judge ruled that Google acted illegally to maintain a monopoly in online search. David McCabe, a New York Times reporter, joins to discuss what happens next. Then, are we in an A.I. bubble? We weigh in on the wild market swings that started the week and consider the argument that A.I. is overhyped. And finally, it’s time for our new segment: We bat around some of the weirdest recent tech drama — including a MrBeast competition that went awry and a founder who dropped a diss track aimed at a rival. All aboard the Hot-Mess Express. Guest: David McCabe, a Times reporter covering technology policy. Additional Reading: ‘Google Is a Monopolist,’ Judge Rules in Landmark Antitrust Case Tech Bosses Preach Patience as They Spend and Spend on A.I. What’s Behind All the Stock Market Drama? Willing to Die for MrBeast (and $5 Million) We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

David McCabe

Reporter covering technology policy

The New York Times

Representative Don Beyer thinks artificial intelligence is “the most amazing technology since fire.” So what does it mean that most of Congress seems not to understand it? Then our colleague David McCabe discusses a bill that could dramatically expand the Biden administration’s power to ban TikTok. Plus: what can the video game character Waluigi tell us about A.I. chatbots gone rogue? On today’s episode: Don Beyer is a U.S. representative for Virginia’s 8th Congressional District. David McCabe is a reporter at The New York Times covering technology policy. Additional reading: Lawmakers are trying to understand the technology behind A.I. The White House is pushing Congress to regulate TikTok. A number of countries are trying to ban TikTok. The Waluigi effect is a theory about why chatbots behave erratically. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Don Beyer

U.S. Representative

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David McCabe

Reporter covering technology policy

The New York Times