The Chopping Block: Ethereum's Identity Crisis, Apostates Speak Out, and Is ETH the Microsoft of Crypto?
Ethereum's midlife crisis hits the podcast as ex-Bankless and ConsenSys insiders unpack ETH's talent exodus, identity spiral, "Microsoft" future, EF shake-ups, and the Solana contender play-all with spicy takes on airdrops, real dev stats, and blockchain adoption drama.
Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, it's an Ethereum apostasy spectacular: we're joined by David Hoffman and Max Resnick, who hit the confessional booth to explain why they've left the church of Ethereum.
We kick off with David's viral "ETH is money" post-mortem: why he finally sold, and whether ETH can escape its spot on the yield farm for good. Max jumps in with an OG technologist's view on EF's internal struggles, talent flight, and the move-slow, break-nothing philosophy now gripping Ethereum's core. Is the EF just ossifying—or is it devolving into the "Microsoft of crypto"?
From there, the hosts dissect the "second foundation" meme, why Twitter doomers might not matter for the ETH price, and whether Solana has stolen the next generation of devs. Max throws down on Solana's quantum future while the group takes barstool shots at metrics, narratives, and the never-ending "Ethereum is for boomers" debate.
Whether you're a ride-or-die Etherean or just here for the schadenfreude, let's get into it.
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Show highlights
🔹David Hoffman reveals why he sold all his ETH and stepped down from the "ETH is money"
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🔹Max Resnick on Ethereum's talent drain, EF's slow tech culture, and missing the Wall Street on-chain boat
🔹Why the Ethereum Foundation's leadership shuffle triggered so much existential dread
🔹The "Ethereum is Microsoft" thesis: ossification, enterprise comfort, and is that a bad thing?
🔹Are airdrops, stablecoin and NFT on-chain metrics just smoke and mirrors?
🔹Developer mindshare —did Solana peak? Has ETH truly lost the next-gen builders?
🔹Will a new "Number Go Up Foundation" for Ethereum change anything?
🔹Solana's post-quantum roadmap: why Max thinks ETH is over-complicating the problem
🔹What happens if Ethereum stops shipping upgrades —can it just coast Lindy-style?
🔹Is the future of crypto "strong" vs. "weak" crypto, and is ETH now firmly a boomer chain?
Hosts
⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly
⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures
⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly
Guest
⭐️ David Hoffman, Co-Founder at Bankless
⭐️ Max Resnick, Lead Economist at Anza
“Why I Sold My ETH” by David Hoffman
https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/2059371247163613489
Timestamps
00:00 Intro
03:12 Why David Sold ETH
05:26 ETH Momentum and Value Capture
07:38 Ethereum Foundation Shakeups
10:18 Max on Tech and Identity Crisis
15:57 Talent Drain and New Blood
19:29 Strong vs Weak Crypto Debate
25:28 Ethereum as Microsoft
30:02 Second Foundation Idea
35:43 Microsoft Era Ethereum
38:20 EF Money Runs Out
42:02 Utility Asset Narrative
46:07 Etherealize Enterprise Push
48:04 Bitcoin Has Saylor
53:32 Ethereum Narrative Whiplash
55:51 Solana As The Yang
58:15 Post Quantum Solana Roadmap
Disclosures
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The Chopping Block: The Ethereum Foundation Manifesto + Who Really Runs Crypto?
Crypto insiders debate the Ethereum Foundation’s new “CROPS” mandate: is the EF losing touch with builders, why does Solana keep pulling startups away, and what will it actually take for Ethereum to stay ahead? Expect a candid conversation on governance, comms, and crypto culture wars.
Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week we’ve got plenty of firepower with special guests Taylor Monahan (formerly of MetaMask, now a security sensei) and Bankless impresario David Hoffman. The crew digs into the Ethereum Foundation’s freshly dropped “CROPS” manifesto — a 38-page PDF full of cypherpunk values, new acronyms, and debate fuel.
What does it really say about where Ethereum is headed? Is EF finally embracing “sanctuary tech,” or just giving startups another reason to choose Solana? Who deserves credit for Ethereum’s growth: the Foundation, the community, or the market?
Expect sharp takes on EF’s endless comms problems, why L2s aren’t a cure-all, and whether crypto culture matters as much as the tech. It’s a spicy, insider-heavy episode — so grab your popcorn and dive in.
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Show highlights
🔹 Ethereum Foundation’s new CROPS mandate—what it says, what it avoids, and why it sparked a vibe war
🔹 Is Vitalik’s “sanctuary tech” vision pushing builders away or just keeping Ethereum pure?
🔹 The never-ending battle between “cypherpunks” and “pragmatists” in Ethereum’s governance
🔹 Why Ethereum’s “bad comms” tradition keeps causing existential crises
🔹 Solana’s support playbook: How culture, not tech, is dominating the builder mindshare
🔹 Are new projects ditching Ethereum L1 for Base, Arbitrum, and Solana—and does platform risk even matter now?
🔹 Should EF just stick to research, or actually help grow the ecosystem? And what does “supporting builders” actually mean?
🔹 Can you keep your values if you don’t win? The hard truths of crypto capitalism
🔹 Lessons from Defi Summer, NFT mania, and what L2 drama says about ecosystem incentives
🔹 Haseeb goes “political”: Why virtue-signaling and simple narratives are killing real debate
Hosts
⭐️ Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly
⭐️ Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures
⭐️ Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly
Guest
⭐️ Taylor Monahan, Security expert & Host of Uneasy Money
⭐️ David Hoffman, Host of Bankless
Timestamps
00:00 Intro
01:51 EF Mandate Explained
03:23 Pragmatists vs. Cypherpunks
05:13 Tay’s Middle Ground
08:54 David Reads Between Lines
13:51 Tom & Tarun Push Back
18:20 EF Factions & Solana Shadow
24:13 Does Ethereum Want Growth
31:01 Virtue Signaling
35:35 Where to Build Now
39:16 Solana Support vs Ethereum Stability
42:12 EF Promotion & Builder Support
47:54 Goldilocks Time Horizons
51:10 Ethereum Soul and Body
56:03 Does EF Leadership Matter?
01:02:45 Stewardship and Market Failures
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The Chopping Block [LIVE]: Bitcoin Arms Race, Content Coin Chaos, and Ethereum’s Crossroads - Ep. 825
Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and special guest David Hoffman break down the biggest stories in crypto. This week: MicroStrategy clones are popping up, with Bitcoin-backed SPACs trying to replay Saylor’s playbook. Meanwhile, Trump launches a memecoin for dinner invites, Zora kicks off a new era of “content coins,” and Ethereum faces an existential pivot. David Hoffman joins the crew to debate whether crypto’s future is real innovation—or just financial theater.
Show highlights
🔹 Bitcoin vs Ethereum: Who Wins the Future? – Breaking down why Bitcoin could outgrow Ethereum… or why Ethereum might still be crypto’s last hope.
🔹 Can Content Coins Save Crypto? – Zora’s pivot and the rise of “content coins” spark a full-blown identity crisis for the industry.
🔹 Are We Just Rebranding Memecoins? – The crew debates whether “content coins” are innovation… or just the same casino with better UX.
🔹 The Culture Clash – Why crypto’s new apps feel like they’re built for millennials — and why Gen Z might just not care.
🔹 SoftBank, SPACs, and the Top Signal – 21Capital’s Bitcoin MicroStrategy clone is here. Are we seeing the beginning of the end… again?
🔹 Vitalik’s Existential Pivot – Ethereum is trying to save itself. But can it change fast enough to stay relevant?
🔹 Bitcoin’s Macro Moment – In a world of tariffs, inflation, and chaos, Bitcoin might accidentally become the next Federal Reserve.
🔹 Crypto’s Morality Crisis – Vitalik’s attack on “bad apps” raises a deeper question: what should crypto even be building anymore?
⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly
Guest
⭐️ David Hoffman, Co-owner at Bankless
Hosts
Disclosures
Timestamps
00:00 Intro
01:55 MicroStrategy Clones and Market Impact
13:40 Trump Coin and Its Controversies
20:35 Zora’s Content Coin vs. Jesse's Coining Controversy
26:56 Zora’s Market Position
32:29 Generational Divide in Crypto
39:32 Ethereum's Strategic Pivot
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EP 35: NYT CEO Meredith Kopit Levien, Bankless’ David Hoffman and Zach Weinberg Crypto Debate, Live at Live at Primary's NYC Summit
In episode 35 we have the very first live and on-stage Cartoon Avatars from Primary's New York City Summit. Logan talks with New York Times CEO Meredith Kopit Levien about the modern state of journalism and its function as a business. Plus the crypto debate picks up once again as Zach Weinberg debates Bankless Co-Founder David Hoffman on crypto, with Sahil Bloom moderating in front of a live audience.
(0:00) Intro
(1:06) Rashad and pickleball
(5:56) College football
(9:03) Elon Andreessen leaked email
(10:54) Cathie Wood’s ARK investment fund
(19:25) Welcoming Zach, David and Sahil
(20:04) David Hoffman’s view on Web3
(21:58) Zach Weinberg’s view on Web3
(24:29) Web3 vs existing tech
(27:39) Why contracts are complicated
(31:24) Layering a financial system
(34:09) Crypto in unstable regimes
(36:45) How brands use Web3
(41:12) Crypto broad scope
(43:09) Why are VCs backing crypto?
(47:06) SEC regulation
(49:10) Introducing Meredith Kopit Levien
(53:47) NYT’s online subscription model
(58:32) Mile markers for achievements
(1:02:25) Being product-led in journalism
(1:05:22) The Daily
(1:11:48) Is polarization good for business?
(1:15:20) Setting long-term goals
(1:17:25) Rapid fire questions
(1:19:04) Outro
Show Notes:
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https://www.primary.vc
Mixed and edited: Justin Hrabovsky
Produced: Andrew Nadeau and Rashad Assir
Executive Producer: Josh Machiz
Music: Griff Lawson
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