‘Hard Fork’ Live, Part 1: Satya Nadella and Cindy Cohn
This week and next, we’re bringing you recordings from our second-ever live taping in San Francisco. First, we sit down with Microsoft’s chief executive, Satya Nadella, to hear what he’s maxing out his A.I. tokens on, why he’s skeptical that software developers will ever be fully replaced, and how he’s hoping to create a new business model for Xbox. Then, Phil Mohun tells us what it has been like to watch people in the Bay Area interact with two robot dogs that wear the faces of Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg. And finally, we talk with the longtime privacy defender Cindy Cohn about where things stand in the fight to protect internet users from digital surveillance by Big Tech and the government.
Guests:
Satya Nadella, chairman and chief executive of Microsoft.
Phil Mohun, executive director of Node.
Cindy Cohn, former executive director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation and author of “Privacy’s Defender: My Thirty-Year Fight Against Digital Surveillance.”
Additional Reading:
Microsoft C.E.O. Satya Nadella Says, ‘Everyone Is a Stakeholder’ in A.I.
Node presents “Beeple: /Infinite_Loop”
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The executive director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation on government surveillance, Elon Musk, and free speech
Cindy Cohn is the executive Director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, or EFF. If you’re an internet user of a certain age like me, you know the EFF as the premiere civil liberties group for the internet. The EFF has fought pitched battles against things like government surveillance, digital rights management for music and movies, and government speech regulations that would violate the First Amendment. These fights were important, and shaped the internet as we know it today.
Links
Electronic Frontier Foundation
How to fix the Internet: Podcast by the EFF
How the EU is fighting tech giants with Margrethe Vestager
Apple pushes back on iPhone order, says FBI is seeking ‘dangerous power'
Here’s why Apple’s new child safety features are so controversial
Viacom vs YouTube
Texas passes law that bans kicking people off social media based on ‘viewpoint’
Santa Clara Principles
Carterfone
Decoder interview with YouTube chief product officer Neal Mohan
Computer Fraud and Abuse Act
Facebook v. Power Ventures
Transcript:
https://www.theverge.com/e/22805290
Credits:
Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.
Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Jackie McDermott and it was edited by Callie Wright.
The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Sr Audio Director is Andrew Marino and our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan.
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In this special Politics Politics Politics! snippet, Justin talks to Electronic Frontier Foundation's Cindy Cohn about ways our digital civil liberties could be affected during the Covid19 crisis. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Recode Decode: EFF boss Cindy Cohn and McSweeney's editor Claire Boyle
Cindy Cohn, the executive director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, and Claire Boyle, the managing editor of McSweeney's Quarterly Concern, talk with Recode's Kara Swisher about a special nonfiction issue the two organizations teamed up to produce, "The End of Trust."
In this episode: Why the EFF and McSweeney's decided to work together; have consumers given up on having privacy?; why "Facebook doesn't really have users or customers, they have hostages"; the current copyright battles in Europe; why the ability of AI to play chess says little about the usefulness of AI in general; surveillance that doesn't seem malevolent and the privilege of "I have nothing to hide"; China's "bonkers" social scoring system; the history of the internet and how things got screwed up; how to unscrew it; will Congress make a move on tech when the shutdown ends?; the importance of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act
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