SpaceX IPO: Markets, Morals, and What It Means for You
Kara and Scott are joined by MS NOW’s Stephanie Ruhle to unpack SpaceX’s blockbuster IPO, OpenAI’s public market ambitions, and rising inflation. Then, they discuss the White House’s Epstein headache, Paramount taking aim at Netflix, and the growing push to ban social media for teens.
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Rachel Maddow on Japanese Incarceration During WWII, Mass Deportation & Media Chaos
Rachel Maddow is an author, podcast host and producer, documentary producer, and, of course, the anchor of her eponymous show on MS NOW. Her newest podcast, "Rachel Maddow Presents: Burn Order," unravels how the incarceration of more than 100,000 Japanese Americans and Japanese immigrants during WWII was planned and carried out. Shockingly, the full story behind one of the 20th century’s worst American human-rights abuses might never have come to light if not for the relentless work of a hobbyist researcher — who had been incarcerated herself.
Kara and Rachel dig into the story and explore the parallels to President Trump’s mass-deportation policies. They also discuss the recent boat strikes on alleged drug traffickers, the escalating drama around the competing bids for Warner Bros. Discovery and what it signals for the future of the news business, and MSNBC’s evolution into MS NOW.
Please note: This episode was taped on Tuesday, before President Trump said it was “imperative that CNN be sold."
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How Trump Dismantled the Department of Justice with Carol Leonnig
Under President Trump, the Department of Justice’s long-standing mission to uphold the law “without fear or favor” has been turned on its head. Attorney General Pam Bondi has followed Trump’s directives to target his political enemies and help his allies. But in their new book, Injustice: How Politics and Fear Vanquished America’s Justice Department, investigative journalists Carol Leonnig and Aaron Davis show that the erosion of the DOJ’s independence began long before Trump’s second term.
Kara speaks to Leonnig, MSNBC senior investigative reporter, bestselling author and five-time Pulitzer Prize winner, about how internal pressure campaigns in Trump 1.0 prevailed, despite the noble intentions of prosecutors; the many red flags that were missed by the FBI ahead of the January 6th Capitol attack; the stubborn bravery of unsung heroes in the National Archives Department during the Biden administration; and how the DOJ’s loss of political independence will impact the country.
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Jen Psaki at Code 2022
Former White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki speaks with Kara Swisher at Code 2022. They discuss Psaki's new career at MSNBC, the state of news, and her time in the White House.
Recorded on September 8th in Los Angeles.
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TikTok's China Problem, Kellogg's Snack Attack, and MSNBC'S Katy Tur
Twitter's board gives Elon's bid the go-ahead, the Obamas ditch Spotify for Amazon, and TikTok denies that it's sending data to China, even as reporting says otherwise. Kara and Scott speak with MSNBC's Katy Tur about cable news, Trump, and her new memoir, Rough Draft.
Katy Tur is on Twitter at @KatyTurNBC.
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Recode Decode: Carol Leonnig and Phil Rucker
Washington Post reporters Carol Leonnig and Phil Rucker talk with Recode's Kara Swisher about their new book, A Very Stable Genius: Donald J. Trump's Testing of America. In it, they draw from more than 200 interviews with Trump administration insiders to paint a picture of Washington in 2020, Trump's frequent lies, and how he retaliates against the people who dare to cross him. They discuss how they convinced sources to talk to them, why Trump is actually a genius from a certain point of view, and how his tweeting may have changed the presidency. Plus: What is it like working at the Washington Post now, in the aftermath of the controversial suspension of one of their colleagues, Felicia Sonmez?
Featuring:
Carole Leonnig (@CarolLeonnig), reporter, Washington Post
Phil Rucker (@PhilipRucker), White House Bureau Chief, Washington Post
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Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large
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Recode Decode: Stephanie Ruhle
MSNBC anchor Stephanie Ruhle talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her new podcast Modern Ruhles, the Trump voters who get overlooked by the media, and why Wall Streeters afraid of Elizabeth Warren should "look in the goddamn mirror." Ruhle also discusses her unusual path to working in the media, by way of Credit Suisse; the importance of the question "Are you better off in 2020 than you were in 2016?"; and the soul-searching at NBC News in the aftermath of Ronan Farrow's book Catch and Kill. Plus: What people get wrong about Facebook's responsibility to the world, and why it should be regulated as a publisher.
Featuring:
Stephanie Ruhle (@SRuhle), MSNBC anchor and host of Modern Ruhles
Hosts:
Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large
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