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Chris Hutchins is the creator and host of All the Hacks, a podcast that helps people upgrade their life, money, and travel. He previously founded Grove (acquired by Wealthfront) and Milk (acquired by Google), led New Product Strategy at Wealthfront, and was a Partner at Google Ventures. Most importantly, he is the person Kevin Rose and I call if we want to figure how to get a better deal on just about anything in the world, or if we just want to learn about his latest hijinks doing things like getting $200 flights to Japan, running gold pseudo-arbitrage at retail, or dirt-cheap trips to Bora Bora. We cover all three and more in this conversation. Sponsors: Shopify global commerce platform, providing tools to start, grow, market, and manage a retail business: https://shopify.com/tim (one-dollar-per-month trial period) Ramp easy-to-use corporate cards, bill payments, accounting, and more: https://ramp.com/tim (Get $250 when you join Ramp) AG1 all-in-one nutritional supplement: https://DrinkAG1.com/Tim (1-year supply of Vitamin D (and 5 free AG1 travel packs) with your first subscription purchase.) Timestamps: [00:00:00] Curses! COVID again. (Start.) [00:00:32] Meet Chris Hutchins: master of All the Hacks. [00:06:22] Coping with a Frankenstein’s Monster of travel points. [00:10:27] How did Chris become obsessed with the art of arbitrage? [00:12:18] Flipping gift cards for fun and profit. [00:17:17] The mechanics of Costco gold arbitrage. [00:22:31] Using AwardTool for finding point deals. [00:25:19] Daydream exploring with PointsYeah. [00:27:27] Why do modern airlines rely on loyalty programs to survive? [00:33:22] Chris maps out the different kinds of points and how to optimize them. [00:36:22] My inner struggle: hoard vs. spend. [00:37:55] Creative uses for large point balances. [00:41:20] Cash back card alternatives. [00:44:14] Chris analyzes the value of my 12 million Amex points. [00:46:23] 200 hotel nights or 150 business class flights? [00:48:47] Seat availability challenges and alert rebooking strategies. [00:55:33] Making use of smaller airline point balances. [00:58:57] Non-travel uses for points. [01:02:26] Strategies for expiring points. [01:06:12] Flexible booking for maximum value. [01:07:12] Using Seats.aero for a Lufthansa first class and Frankfurt terminal experience. [01:10:45] Using Rooms.aero to find surprise hotel deals around the world. [01:11:51] Point strategies gone wrong and the optimizer’s curse. [01:14:36] Using Points Path with Google Flights to decide if a trip is worth the points. [01:15:30] The Dunning-Kruger curve of points hacking. [01:18:13] Escaping the optimization trap: when frugality becomes a burden. [01:21:33] What I could have done differently with my reward cards. [01:24:28] Points arbitrage: buying vs. earning. [01:27:01] Optimal reward cards for small business owners. [01:28:07] Status benefits and Southwest’s companion pass. [01:32:05] Pudding cups, $1 coins, and other heartwarming arbitrage tales. [01:36:47] How Chris saved $11,000 on his wedding by bartering with points. [01:38:53] Using points for employee/family gifts and business benefits. [01:42:09] How Chris would optimize point resources in my shoes. [01:45:16] The joy (and livelihood) Chris gets from sharing a day in his life. [01:46:57] Pondering AI’s future impact on travel, point optimization, regulatory changes, and itinerary planning. [01:53:56] Hotel relationship building through direct communication. [01:57:01] Insider restaurant hacks. [01:58:05] Credit card signup bonuses and credit score impact. [02:00:31] Card closure strategy and credit history preservation. [02:03:35] Amex Platinum Card evaluation and optimization. [02:06:12] Using government-sanctioned Annualcreditreport.com to monitor your credit report. [02:08:49] Spousal credit card strategy: doubling bonuses. [02:10:24] Chris’ travel enjoyment philosophy and spending mindset. [02:13:36] Paying cash vs. points at the Four Seasons Lanai. [02:15:08] Learning how to spend money as a frugal person. [02:17:28] High-quality experiences over extreme optimization. [02:18:38] Die with Zero: Bill Perkins and the money timing game. [02:21:14] Coast FIRE (Financial Independence Retire Early). [02:22:38] Recommended reading for developing a conscious, fulfilling relationship with money. [02:25:47] The limits of universal financial advice. [02:29:48] Chris’ potential alternative career paths. [02:32:09] The fisherman parable and contentment. 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Chris Hutchins

Podcaster and Former Head of New Product Strategy

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Chris Hutchins recently left his position as Head of New Product Strategy at Wealthfront to focus full-time on his podcast, All the Hacks. If you’re thinking about starting your own podcast or are simply interested in the process, be sure to check out today’s episode. We dive deep on all things podcasting: the pros and cons, how to climb the charts, and how much time you should expect to spend on each episode from start to finish. We talk in-depth about the process, from pre-production to publication, and share all of the products we use for recording, editing, and publishing. Chris also offers some important tips and tricks on how to get your first subscribers and how to market and grow your podcast, as well as some incredible money-saving hacks that you can start implementing today. — Find the full transcript here: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/launching-and-growing-a-podcast-chris — Thank you to our wonderful sponsors for supporting this podcast: • Notion—One workspace. Every team: https://www.notion.com/lennyspod • Vanta—Automate compliance. Simplify security: https://vanta.com/lenny • Lenny’s Job Board—Hire the best product people. Find the best product gigs: https://www.lennysjobs.com/talent — Where to find Chris Hutchins: • Twitter: https://twitter.com/hutchins • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrishutchins/ • Website: https://chrishutchins.com/ — Where to find Lenny: • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com • Twitter: https://twitter.com/lennysan • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/ — Referenced: • All the Hacks podcast: https://www.allthehacks.com/ • All the Hacks newsletter: https://allthehacks.com/email • Andy Rachleff on Twitter: https://twitter.com/arachleff • Kerri Walsh Jennings on All the Hacks: https://www.allthehacks.com/performance-psychology-kerri-walsh-jennings/ • Descript: https://www.descript.com/ • Erika Taught Me podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/erika-taught-me/id1650076906 • Leigh Rowan on All the Hacks: https://www.allthehacks.com/travel-hacks-leigh-rowan/ • Kevin Kelly’s “1,000 True Fans”: https://kk.org/thetechnium/1000-true-fans/ • Emily Oster’s books: https://emilyoster.net/writing/ • Chris Hutchins on The Kevin Rose Show: https://podcast.kevinrose.com/guests/chris-hutchins/ • Nick Gray’s newsletter: https://nickgray.net/signup-for-email-updates/ • The 2-Hour Cocktail Party: How to Build Big Relationships with Small Gatherings: https://www.amazon.com/2-Hour-Cocktail-Party-Relationships-Gatherings-ebook/dp/B0B2KW6T7J • MrBeast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX6OQ3DkcsbYNE6H8uQQuVA • Gary Vaynerchuk on Twitter: https://twitter.com/garyvee • The Danny Miranda Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-danny-miranda-podcast/id1532160275 • Ray Dalio on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RayDalio • Danny Miranda’s newsletter on Substack: https://dannymiranda.substack.com/ • ATRX2100 mic bundle on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATR2100X-USB-Microphone-Bundle-Filter/dp/B082SYHRY9/r • Riverside: https://riverside.fm/ • Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Focusrite-Scarlett-Audio-Interface-Tools/dp/B07QR73T66 • Sony Alpha 7C mirrorless full-frame camera on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Sony-Alpha-Full-Frame-Mirrorless-Camera/dp/B08HVZLQ4F • Adobe Audition: https://www.adobe.com/products/audition.html • Pro Tools: https://www.avid.com/pro-tools • Podpage: https://www.podpage.com/ • Simplecast: https://www.simplecast.com/ • Chartable: https://chartable.com/ • Podstatus: https://podstatus.com/ • Overcast: https://overcast.fm/ • Happy Money: https://www.amazon.com/Happy-Money-Ken-Honda-audiobook/dp/B07MJHJ57T/ • Vagabonding: An Uncommon Guide to the Art of Long-Term World Travel: https://www.amazon.com/Vagabonding-Uncommon-Guide-Long-Term-Travel/dp/0812992180 • Die with Zero: https://www.amazon.com/Die-Zero-Getting-Your-Money/dp/0358099765 • Animal Spirits Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/animal-spirits-podcast/id1310192007 • Mythic Quest on AppleTV+: https://tv.apple.com/us/show/mythic-quest • Unclaimed money: https://www.usa.gov/unclaimed-money • Savendeals.com: https://www.savendeals.com/ — In this episode, we cover: (00:00) Chris’s background (03:25) Lesson’s from Wealthfront (09:25) Why storytelling and communication are every bit as important as the product (11:04) Why you need to understand the user’s experience and keep up with what others are building (14:56) Why you should focus on overall impact, not just doing what your boss wants (17:39) Why Chris likes working on big, crazy ideas (19:10) The early days of Chris’s All the Hacks podcast (21:34) The pros and cons of starting a podcast (24:19) The time required to produce an episode (27:09) How Lenny started his podcast  (28:29) Launch lessons and how Apple rankings work (30:49) Why you need to create authentic content (32:57) Be one person’s favorite podcast (35:01) How Chris ideated and titled All the Hacks (40:09) How to get started and get your first subscribers (43:52) How Gary Vaynerchuk used Twitter to establish authority  (45:07) How to take advantage of platforms with built-in growth engines (47:42) The power of in-person interviews (48:57) How to pitch to other podcasts (51:27) Equipment and products for producing podcasts (57:36) How many downloads it takes in order to be taken seriously (1:01:28) Using Overcast as a growth lever (1:09:02) Lightning round — Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. 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Chris Hutchins

Podcaster and Former Head of New Product Strategy

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How I Built The Tim Ferriss Show to 700+ Million Downloads — An Immersive Explanation of All Aspects and Key Decisions (Featuring Chris Hutchins) | Brought to you by LinkedIn Jobs recruitment platform with 770M+ users, Athletic Greens all-in-one nutritional supplement, and Helix Sleep premium mattresses. More on all three below. Chris Hutchins (@hutchins) is an avid life hacker and financial optimizer. He’s the host of All the Hacks podcast and the Head of New Product Strategy at Wealthfront. Previously, Chris was co-founder and CEO of Grove (acquired by Wealthfront), co-founder of Milk (acquired by Google), and a partner at Google Ventures, where he focused on seed and early stage investments. Chris reached out with many questions about podcasting. He had already read much of what I had written and listened to several interviews, and this is intended to be an updated guide to all things podcasting. Please enjoy! This episode is brought to you by Athletic Greens. 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Chris Hutchins

Podcaster and Former Head of New Product Strategy

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Ryan recently visited Grove HQ in SOMA in San Francisco to chat with two founders who know a ton about fintech. Chris Hutchins was our gracious host and is CEO of Grove, a startup that uses people and technology to help you with your financial goals. Ryan actually met Chris in the early days of Product Hunt when he was an investor at Google Ventures. Before that, he started a company called Milk that was acquired by Google. All his life he's been a self-acknowledged financial nerd, often sharing his money-saving tips with friends, which was a large inspiration for starting Grove. Jake Gibson is the co-founder of NerdWallet. The company started back in 2009 and helps consumers make smart financial decisions like “which credit card should I get?” or “what's the best savings account for me?” He left in 2014 and has since focused his time angel investing, primarily in fintech startups. In this episode they discuss... How fintech has evolved over the past decade — and why it’s so hot right now Jake and Chris both worked in finance before becoming entrepreneurs and they talk about how that informed the companies they founded. They talk about the big changes that have happened over the last ten years and why a space that very few founders would touch just a few years ago has become one of the hottest spaces for entrepreneurs and investors. “We all basically know the guidelines around how to be healthy, but we don’t do it, because eating broccoli sucks, and its complicated, and good food is expensive, so there are a lot of reasons why we aren’t going to do it and personal finance is the same way.” — Jake The top financial life hacks, including why Chris says he buys his groceries at OfficeMax People ask me, ‘where do you buy your groceries?’ and I’ll be like, ‘I buy my groceries at OfficeMax, because I buy Whole Foods gift cards at OfficeMax so that I can buy my groceries.’ You have to be kind of crazy to do that but I’m clearly there.” — Chris Chris talks about his obsessive quest for credit card points and why, once you take a lavish vacation using only the points you’ve accrued on your cards, it makes having twelve credit cards and an index card to tell you when to spend on which one all worth it. “I have all these credit cards and I’ve specifically gone in and said, ‘do I spend enough here to make it worth it?’ It might be that I’m the first person to volunteer to plan a trip for friends and they all think ‘wow, I’m getting this awesome benefit, my friend’s planning this trip for me, I don’t have to think about it.’ I’m like, totally, and I will do that for free, but I will put 100% of the flights and hotels on my credit card. I’ll earn the points, you get a free travel agent, and it works out really well for both of us.” — Chris What the future holds for fintech and their favorite companies in the space They talk about the problems they were trying to solve with the companies they co-founded, what remains to be done in the space, and some of their favorite apps for helping you get a handle on your finances. “How do you know if a term life policy is more relevant than investing in your 401k or saving more money or putting it towards your kids’ college? How do you figure all that out? The short answer is you could build a future cash flow model and the bankers in the room are like ‘oh, I already did that’ but 99 percent of people are like ‘I have no idea.’” — Chris The rise of crypto and how it might impact fintech “There are a lot of people in the crypto space who don’t know anything about finance and a lot of people who know a lot about finance getting into crypto who don’t know anything about crypto, so it’ll be interesting to see how that will all evolve.” — Jake It wouldn’t be a tech podcast without talking about crypto, right? They discuss the promise of crypto and which aspects of it are overhyped. “People talk about how tokenizing securities — stocks and bonds and things like that — should make the world better and more efficient. Sure, if you can cut out trading costs, I think that can be helpful, but you don’t necessarily need a blockchain to do that. Additionally, everyone says one of the benefits is it’s tradable 24/7. I don’t think that’s actually a benefit.” — Jake If you want to give Grove a try, check out hellogrove.com/producthunt to get $100 off. We’ll be back next week so be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Breaker, Overcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts. Big thanks to Vettery and Copper for their support. 😸 Companies and Products Mentioned In This Episode Astra — Save money. Without thinking about it. Cushion — Your bank and credit card fees, refunded. Ease — Benefits administration and HR software. Lively — Zenefits for health savings accounts. Max My Interest— Intelligent cash management for intelligent investors. Mint — The classic automated budget tracker. Plaid — A REST API for your bank. Synapse — The banking platform. Visor — Taxes made simple. Yodlee — Access financial data through an API.

Chris Hutchins

Podcaster and Former Head of New Product Strategy

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Jake Gibson

Co-founder

NerdWallet

Chris Hutchins is the CEO of HelloGrove.com, former Entrepreneur In Residence at Google Ventures and a serial money-optimiser. Effective money management is something which everyone should know but no one is taught. Chris has spent a large portion of his career trying to educate people to be skillful with their finances and today we get to learn many of his favourite tips. Extra Stuff Follow Chris On Twitter - https://twitter.com/hutchins Chris's Website - https://chrishutchins.com/ Check out everything I recommend from books to products and help support the podcast at no extra cost to you by shopping through this link - https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/modernwisdom - Get in touch. Join the discussion with me and other like minded listeners in the episode comments on the MW YouTube Channel or message me... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ModernWisdomPodcast Email: https://www.chriswillx.com/contact Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Chris Hutchins

Podcaster and Former Head of New Product Strategy

All the HacksGroveWealthfrontHelloGrove

Chris Hutchins is the Founder & CEO @ Grove, the startup reinventing financial planning allowing you to reach your goals with personalized financial advice. Just last week they announced their seed round from some of the best in the business including First Round Capital, Lowercase Capital, Box Group and SV Angel. Prior to Grove, Chris was an Partner & EiR with Google Ventures and before that co-founded Milk (acq by Google) alongside Kevin Rose. In Today's Episode You Will Learn: 1.) How Chris made the move from Google acquired Founder to Partner @ Google Ventures to now, founding First Round backed, Grove? 2.) What does Chris believe are the foundational elements founders must consider pre-fundraise? How does Chris suggest founders structure the process? How important is a fundraise deadline? How does Chris advise founders on getting warm intros, what is best? 3.) How can founders really optimise VC interactions? What is the biggest mistake founders make when meeting VCs? What should founders be looking to take from these meetings? How transparent should founders be about their meetings with other investors? 4.) What are Chris' view on the rise of SAFE's vs priced equity rounds? In what situations do SAFE's make sense? How did Chris think about this with his own fundraise recently? Does Chris believe there is too much money in the ecosystem? Where are there gaps and where is there overfunding? 5.) Why does Chris think hiring is a "big data problem"? Where do many founders make mistakes in recruiting in the early days? What hacks can be done to ensure a quality stream of candidates continuously? Items Mentioned In Today's Show: Chris' Fave Book: Happy Money As always you can follow Harry, The Twenty Minute VC and Chris on Twitter here! Likewise, you can follow Harry on Snapchat here for mojito madness and all things 20VC. Cooley are the global law firm built around startups and venture capital. Since forming the first venture fund in Silicon Valley, Cooley has formed more venture capital funds than any other law firm in the world, with 50+ years working with VCs. They help VCs form and manage funds, make investments and handle the myriad issues that arise through a fund's lifetime. So to learn more about the #1 most active law firm representing VC-backed companies going public. Head over to cooley.com and also at cooleygo.com. Zoom, fastest growing video and web conferencing service, providing one consistent enterprise experience that allows you to engage in an array of activities including video meetings and webinars, collaboration-enabled conference rooms, and persistent chat all in one easy platform. Plus, it is the easiest solution to manage, scale, and use, and has the most straightforward, affordable pricing. Don't take our word for it. Zoom is the top rated conferencing app across various user review sites including G2Crowd and Trust Radius. And you can sign up for a free account (not a trial!). Just visit Zoom.us.

Chris Hutchins

Podcaster and Former Head of New Product Strategy

All the HacksGroveWealthfrontHelloGrove