DBA

Crypto investors love to throw around “FDV” as if it’s the ultimate measure of value. But what if that number is more misleading than helpful?  In this episode, DBA’s Jon Charbonneau explains his proposal to cut Hyperliquid’s supply by nearly half, why he believes FDV overstates real valuations, and how outdated tokenomics are holding projects back.  We also cover whether the Hyperliquid team should take smaller allocations if they cut the token supply and what Jon thinks of Arthur Hayes’ HYPE sale just weeks after saying the token would 10x. Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsor, ⁠Mantle⁠! Guest: Jon Charbonneau, Co-founder and General Partner of DBA Links: Proposal to Reduce HYPE Total Supply by 45% by Jon Charbonneau, Co-founder of DBA Maelstrom post: HYPE's Damocles Sword Unchained: Nearly $12 Billion in HYPE Token Unlocks Loom Ahead: Maelstrom  Timestamps: 🎬 0:00 Intro 📉 0:35 What Jon thinks people get wrong when they use FDV as a valuation metric 🧮 4:05 How Jon’s proposal would change Hyperliquid’s supply and valuation 🆘 12:20 If the Assistance Fund is removed, how can emergencies be handled? 📊 15:05 How token supplies should really be evaluated when valuing projects ⏳ 20:44 Why current tokenomics reflect an outdated model ✂️ 24:56 Should the Hyperliquid team be taking a smaller allocation too? 🤔 28:15 What Jon thinks of Arthur Hayes selling HYPE right after calling for the moon 🔮 31:351 How Hyperliquid should move forward with Jon’s proposal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jon Charbonneau

Analyst

DBA ResearchDBADelphi Digital

Subscribe to the new Bits + Bips channels! 📺 YouTube  🎧 Podcast → Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pocket Casts, Fountain 🐦 X / Twitter  Is crypto no longer moving in predictable four-year waves?  From the rise of DATs and stablecoin-specific chains, to Hyperliquid challenging Binance itself, the industry is fracturing into segments with  winners and losers.  In this episode, Hack VC’s Peter Hans and DBA’s Jon Charbonneau debate whether Solana is next in line for a TradFi pump, why ETH suddenly flipped from dead to indispensable, and how onchain exchanges could finally free projects from Binance’s grip. Thank you to our sponsors! Re Mantle Guests: Peter Hans, Partner and Global Head of Business Development at Hack VC Jon Charbonneau, co-founder and general partner of DBA Links: Rob Hadick’s tweet on the DAT trend  Vinny Lingham’s tweet on the locked SOL in DATs Unchained:  Hyperliquid Surpasses Robinhood in Trading Volume for Three Months Straight Circle to Launch Layer 1 Blockchain ‘Arc’ Stripe Is Building Its Own Layer 1 Blockchain Timestamps: 🎬 0:00 Intro 🎯 2:44 Whether the DAT trend is peaking or just getting started 🧾 10:57 Whether SOL DATs include locked funds from the FTX estate 🙅‍♂️ 11:52 Why Jon hasn’t touched any of these products 📈 16:28 Why Peter still sees long-term value in these vehicles 🔥 20:24 Why ETH is suddenly hot in TradFi and how SOL could follow 🏦 28:49 What makes a stablecoin-specific chain attractive 😶‍🌫️ 32:42 How crypto overlooked privacy for far too long 🔗 38:48 What it’ll take for stablecoin chains to win the payments game ⚠️ 45:39 Whether stablechains could hurt Ethereum, Tron, or Solana 🔍 47:46 Which stablechain has the best shot at success 💸 52:07 Why Hyperliquid beat Robinhood in trading volume 🧨 56:00 How Hyperliquid could break Binance’s listing chokehold 🕵️‍♂️ 59:23 What makes anonymous, no-KYC products appealing 📉 1:01:30 Whether the 4-year crypto cycle is officially dead Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Peter Hans

Partner

Hack VC

Jon Charbonneau

Analyst

DBA ResearchDBADelphi Digital

Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, we’re joined by Jon Charbonneau and Ryan Watkins to unpack the bombshell news of Robinhood Chain—an Arbitrum-based network debuting tokenized U.S. stocks, 3× crypto perps, and that head-scratching $500 K liquidity cap. From riffing on whether proof-of-stake yields are just “money in a box,” to debating Solana’s first U.S. staked ETF, to sizing up the looming perp wars between Robinhood and Coinbase, the crew maps a common thread: corporate chains and regulatory work-arounds are colliding with crypto’s decentralization ideals, forcing builders, traders, and even ETF hawks to rethink where real security, fairness, and opportunity will live next. Show highlights 🔹 Robinhood Chain Revealed – Why the trading-app giant paid up to launch an Arbitrum-based “Robinhood Chain,” starting with 24/5 perpetuals and tokenized U.S. stocks, plus a rumored $500 K–liquidity cap that has Crypto Twitter howling. 🔹 Tokenized-Stock Gold Rush – From Tesla and SpaceX pre-IPO shares to on-chain S&P stalwarts: does 24/7 trading finally make equity tokens stick, or is it just another CFD in disguise? 🔹 Perps Arms Race – Coinbase’s 5-year “quasi-perp” futures vs. Robinhood’s 3×-leverage launch vs. Hyperliquid’s 20× turbo deck—who wins the battle for retail flow? 🔹 Solana ETF First-Mover – RexShares files a staked-SOL C-Corp ETF, beating BlackRock to the punch and testing Wall Street’s appetite after ETH’s lukewarm debut. 🔹 Proof-of-Stake Reality Check – The crew dismantles the “economic security” myth, asks whether validator cartels make inflation rewards pointless, and floats proof-of-governance as the next model. 🔹 Hyperliquid vs. The World – Why a single Tokyo data center is eating CLOB volume, what zk-rollup challengers are planning, and how latency games redefine “decentralized exchange.” 🔹 $2 B Prediction-Market Beef – Paradigm-backed Kalshi clashes with PolyMarket after a viral “little rats” tweet; inside the influencer war and the CFTC license flex. 🔹 Conference FOMO No More – New-York-privileged hosts roast ETH CC in Cannes and declare the age of fly-to-France crypto tourism officially over. 🔹 Reg-Tech vs. Fin-Tech – From transfer agents to T+1 settlement: why outdated TradFi plumbing, not blockchains, still blocks global access to U.S. securities. 🔹 Super-App Skepticism – The panel pokes holes in “super-app” buzzwords and explains why sequencing—product-first, chain-later—matters more than catchy slogans. ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly  Guests ⭐️ Ryan Watkins, Co-Founder of Syncracy Capital ⭐️ Jon Charbonneau, Co-founder & General Partner at DBA Timestamps 0:00 Intro 02:59 Robinhood Chain 15:05 Debate on Tokenized Stocks 27:18 Perpetuals (Perps) in the Crypto Market 37:15 Robinhood's New Crypto Traders 39:26 The Solana ETF Approval 41:17 Understanding Staking and ETFs 43:36 The Future of Proof of Stake 46:20 Governance in Ethereum and Other Chains 56:26 Corporate Chains and Validator Selection 01:04:31 Polymarket vs. Kalshi Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jon Charbonneau

Analyst

DBA ResearchDBADelphi Digital

Ryan Watkins

Co-founder

Syncracy CapitalMessari

Crypto markets are buzzing and institutional appetite is peaking. With Circle’s IPO wildly oversubscribed and a new wave of companies racing to go public, we unpack what this means for the industry. Jon and Bread join us to break down the hype around crypto IPOs, why TradFi wants stablecoin exposure, and what it signals for projects like Solana, Ethereum, and Hyperliquid. We also debate value accrual, ETH vs BTC narratives, and whether apps or platforms will dominate the next phase of crypto. This is the IPO Era of crypto—let's dissect the winners and the delusions. ------ 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24 https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🪙FRAX | SELF SUFFICIENT DeFi https://bankless.cc/Frax 🦄UNISWAP | SWAP ON UNICHAIN https://bankless.cc/unichain 🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle 🌐SELF | PROVE YOUR SELF https://bankless.cc/Self 🟠BINANCE | THE WORLDS #1 CRYPTO EXCHANGE https://bankless.cc/binance ------ TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES 0:00 Intro 0:32 Vibe Check https://x.com/intern/status/1932238240880222270 https://x.com/blknoiz06/status/1932072994731647435 10:13 Crypto’s IPO Era https://www.tradingview.com/chart/?symbol=NYSE%3ACRCL https://x.com/HadickM/status/1931323504525279522 18:11 Ethereum Valuation Debate https://x.com/DeeZe/status/1932475461348835800 29:29 Hype vs SOL vs PUMP https://www.tradingview.com/chart/?symbol=KUCOIN%3AHYPEUSDT 40:44 Hyperliquid vs Centralized Exchanges https://dune.com/uwusanauwu/perps 50:35 PumpFun’s Token Sale 58:16 Closing & Disclaimers ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures⁠

Jon Charbonneau

Analyst

DBA ResearchDBADelphi Digital

Bread

Crypto Analyst

Jon Charbonneau and Ryan Berckmans join Bankless to debate Ethereum’s future: is ETH undervalued, or has the market already spoken? We unpack whether Ethereum can rival Bitcoin as a store of value, if L2s will drive real value back to ETH, and whether Solana’s momentum signals deeper trouble for Ethereum. Jon argues ETH has lost its lead and may never reclaim it. Ryan contends Ethereum’s neutrality and institutional traction make it the inevitable hub for the onchain economy. This is the definitive conversation on where ETH stands—and where it’s heading. ------ 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24 https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🪙FRAX | SELF SUFFICIENT DeFi https://bankless.cc/Frax 🦄UNISWAP | SWAP ON UNICHAIN https://bankless.cc/unichain 🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle 🌐SELF | PROVE YOUR SELF https://bankless.cc/Self 🟠BINANCE | THE WORLDS #1 CRYPTO EXCHANGE https://bankless.cc/binance ------ TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 0:32 Is ETH special? 32:55 How ETH should be valued 51:42 ETH over or undervalued? 1:09:59 Being wrong on ETH 1:13:00 Closing & Disclaimers ------ RESOURCES Ryan Berckmans https://x.com/ryanberckmans Jon Charbonneau https://x.com/jon_charb ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures⁠

Ryan Berckmans

Investor

Etherealize

Jon Charbonneau

Analyst

DBA ResearchDBADelphi Digital

In this episode of the Bankless Podcast, hosts discuss Real Economic Value (REV). Triggered by Jon's exploration of how ETH and SOL prices correlate with REV, the team delves into REV's role as a value capture metric and demand signal for blockchain networks. We evaluate the implications for network valuations, debate the sustainability of relying on REV, and analyze competitive dynamics between Ethereum and Solana. The conversation concludes with musings on crypto investment risks and the evolving identity of digital currencies in relation to app utility. Jon Charbonneau: https://x.com/jon_charb Bread: https://x.com/0xBreadguy Andy8052: https://x.com/andy8052 —- 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24 https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium --- BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🪙FRAX | SELF SUFFICIENT DeFi https://bankless.cc/Frax 🦄UNISWAP | SWAP ON UNICHAIN https://bankless.cc/unichain 🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle 🌐SELF | PROVE YOUR SELF https://bankless.cc/Self 🟠HEMI | BTC & ETH, ONE NETWORK https://bankless.cc/hemi --- TIMESTAMPS 0:00 REV https://x.com/jon_charb/status/1923739890115543264 https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1924835154700234866 17:56 Stablecoins vs Native Currencies 28:38 Tribalism https://x.com/post_polar_/status/1924458711940055246 https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1924202146117153172 39:30 The Trenches https://dune.com/beincrypto/solana-launchpads 49:14 Pump . Fun --- Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures

Jon Charbonneau

Analyst

DBA ResearchDBADelphi Digital

Bread

Crypto Analyst

Andy8052

Crypto Researcher

Fractional

In this episode of the Bankless Roundtable, host David Hoffman is joined by crypto enthusiasts Zero X Bread Guy, John Charbonneau, and Andy8052 to discuss the recent surge in Ethereum's price, which skyrocketed nearly 50% this week. The panel analyzes the impact of the Believe app and Launchcoin on internet capital markets, Coinbase's entry into the S&P 500, and Robinhood's new Layer 2 solution. They explore the implications of these developments for investor confidence and market liquidity, alongside the rising interest in meme-based tokens. The conversation wraps up with thoughts on Ethereum vs. Solana and the importance of community engagement in the evolving crypto landscape. Jon Charbonneau: https://x.com/jon_charb Bread: https://x.com/0xBreadguy Andy8052: https://x.com/andy8052 —- 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24 https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium --- BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🪙FRAX | SELF SUFFICIENT DeFi https://bankless.cc/Frax 🦄UNISWAP | SWAP ON UNICHAIN https://bankless.cc/unichain 🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle 🌐SELF | PROVE YOUR SELF https://bankless.cc/Self 🟠HEMI | BTC & ETH, ONE NETWORK https://bankless.cc/hemi --- TIMESTAMPS 0:00 ETH vs SOL vs BTC 5:40 Internet Capital Markets https://x.com/gabrielhaines/status/1922293923420000346 https://dexscreener.com/solana/yrrustgpugdp8bbfosqdefssen6sa75zs1qjvgnhtmy https://www.believescreener.com/ https://x.com/believeapp 22:19 Memecoin Launchpads https://x.com/believeapp/status/1922075588115775489 https://x.com/zhusu/status/1922178773375418733 30:32 Ethereum Up 50% https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/ethereum 46:25 Coinbase Listed https://x.com/coinbase/status/1922046840528113880 53:47 Robinhood Acquires Wonderfi https://x.com/hanni_abu/status/1922341347844841611 --- Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures

Jon Charbonneau

Analyst

DBA ResearchDBADelphi Digital

Bread

Crypto Analyst

Andy8052

Crypto Researcher

Fractional

Jon Charbonneau, Bread, and Andy8052 join David to break down Ethereum’s bold pivot back to Layer 1 and what it means for the future of crypto. They also dive into the implications of scaling the L1 over rollups, the looming death of longtail L2s, and the shifting meta around value accrual, memecoins, and onchain activity. The crew also debates ETH’s monetary identity, HyperLiquid’s EVM ambitions, and whether Ethereum can reassert itself as crypto’s dominant tech and cultural platform. Jon Charbonneau: https://x.com/jon_charb Bread: https://x.com/0xBreadguy Andy8052: https://x.com/andy8052 ------ 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24 https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🪙FRAX | SELF SUFFICIENT DeFi https://bankless.cc/Frax 🦄UNISWAP | SWAP ON UNICHAIN https://bankless.cc/unichain 🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle 🌐SELF | PROVE YOUR SELF https://bankless.cc/Self 🏦INFINEX | THE CRYPTO-EVERYTHING APP https://bankless.cc/Infinex ------ TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES 0:00 Intro 1:58 Ethereum Pivot Has a Tagline https://x.com/hosseeb/status/1917052715911549399 https://x.com/0xngmi/status/1916910787936797005 18:49 Ethereum Value Accrual 30:29 Fun Chain Premium 34:00 Memecoin Meta These Days 50:17 HyperLiquid EVM 58:01 1 Gorilla vs 100 Men https://x.com/search?q=1%20Gorilla%20v%20100%20Men&src=typed_query 1:04:07 Closing & Disclaimers ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures

Jon Charbonneau

Analyst

DBA ResearchDBADelphi Digital

BreadGuy

Andy8052

Crypto Researcher

Fractional

Jon Charbonneau and Bread join David Hoffman to unpack Ethereum’s pivotal moment—facing tough choices to re-focus on its Layer 1. They break down Ethereum’s shift back toward prioritizing L1 growth, the delicate dance between Layer 1 and Layer 2 strategies, and why Ethereum must reclaim DeFi as its core strength. The conversation also explores the nuanced dynamics between Ethereum’s cultural vision and technical roadmap, how Layer 2s fit into Ethereum’s evolving ecosystem, and what this strategic recalibration means for Ethereum's future in a competitive crypto landscape. Jon Charbonneau: https://x.com/jon_charb Bread: https://x.com/0xBreadguy ------ 📣 WALLET CONNECT | ONCHAIN UX ECOSYSTEM https://bankless.cc/WalletConnect ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🪙FRAX | SELF SUFFICIENT DeFi https://bankless.cc/Frax 🦄UNISWAP | SWAP ON UNICHAIN https://bankless.cc/unichain 🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle 🌐SELF | PROVE YOUR SELF https://bankless.cc/Self 🏦INFINEX | THE CRYPTO-EVERYTHING APP https://bankless.cc/Infinex ------ TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES 0:00 Intro 5:28 Jon & Bread’s reaction to the Dankrad/Angsar episode https://www.bankless.com/podcast/ethereums-strategic-pivot-ansgar-dankrad-mike-ippolito https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1914402754891559253 https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1914330497905299790 27:56 Unichain or Ethereum L1 is DeFi? https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1913633500206428201 35:07 Making the L1 competitive while keeping L2s happy 44:38 L2s Parasitic? 48:49 Bitcoin Roadmap Bread vs. Jon 57:09 Decline of the ETH price & all asset prices overpriced? 1:05:02 ETH/BTC growth slowdown reason 1:13:35 The politics side of the conversation 1:19:05 What Bread & Jon are excited about 1:26:49 Closing & Disclaimers ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures

Jon Charbonneau

Analyst

DBA ResearchDBADelphi Digital

BreadGuy

What is Ethereum’s North Star, and does it even need one? There has been angst in the Ethereum community, growing over the last year, as Ethereum has become squeezed by its competition. Bitcoin’s story as money is growing in mainstream society. Solana has captured the hot ball of money in crypto. And Celestia’s data availability continues to progress at a faster rate than what is found at home in Ethereum. This is Ethereum’s Three-Front War, a topic we covered in a recent episode with Justin Drake. And today we‘re joined by Jon Charbonneau and Mike Ippolito to contextualize and diagnose what Ethereum needs in order to thrive in this competitive landscape. ------ 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24  https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🐙KRAKEN | MOST-TRUSTED CRYPTO EXCHANGE https://k.xyz/bankless-pod-q2    ⁠ 🦄UNISWAP | BUG BOUNTY PROGRAM https://bankless.cc/Uniswap-Bug-Bounty 🐧 CARTESI | LINUX-POWERED ROLLUPS https://bankless.cc/CartesiSimple 🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle     ⁠  📈 iYield: YOUR FINANCIAL PICTURE, SIMPLIFIED https://bankless.cc/iYield 🔒  SAFE | INTRODUCING SAFENET https://bankless.cc/SAFE  ------ ✨ Mint the episode on Zora ✨ https://zora.co/collect/zora:0x0c294913a7596b427add7dcbd6d7bbfc7338d53f/109?referrer=0x077Fe9e96Aa9b20Bd36F1C6290f54F8717C5674E ------ TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 6:00 Jon’s Article 16:48 How did we get here? 23:16 Ethereum’s Three Front War 43:14 Ethereum Wins by its Synergies 52:52 Ethereum’s Focus 1:01:58 Ethereum Tactical Advice 1:18:18 Ultra Sound Money vs World Computer 1:30:26 Closing & Disclaimers ------ RESOURCES Mike Ippolito https://x.com/mikeippolito   Jon Charbonneau https://x.com/jon_charb   Jon’s Article https://dba.xyz/ethereums-north-star/   ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures ⁠

Jon Charbonneau

Analyst

DBA ResearchDBADelphi Digital

Mike Ippolito

Co-Founder

Blockworks

How do you determine the value of decentralized networks like Bitcoin, Ethereum, or Solana? It’s not as straightforward as traditional investments. Jon Charbonneau, general partner at crypto investment firm DBA, joins Unchained after writing a paper that dives deep into the complexities of valuing blockchain networks. He explains why applying traditional equity models to networks such as Bitcoin falls short, how tax inefficiencies in staking rewards impact valuations, and whether Layer 2 solutions like Optimism and Arbitrum are helping or hurting the long-term value of Layer 1 blockchains. Also, he looks at the big question—are these networks sustainable in the long run? Show highlights: What motivated Jon to write the paper What the main points of the paper are Why tax inefficiencies in staking rewards are a critical factor in valuing decentralized networks and how they differ from traditional corporate taxes What makes valuing networks tricky, as Jon explains how proof-of-work vs. proof-of-stake systems differ from traditional equity models How he thinks about valuing Layer 2s and whether they are parasitic to the L1 Whether blockchains are sustainable in the long term Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Polkadot Mantle’s FBTC Guest Jon Charbonneau, co-founder and General Partner at DBA L1 & L2 Token Value Capture Links Previous coverage of Unchained on this topic: How to Figure Out Whether a Crypto Token Is Worth Its Trading Price ETH Is Down Bad, While Layer 2s Are Ripping. Are L2s Parasitic to Ethereum? Are Layer 2s Parasitic to Ethereum and ETH as an Asset? Are L2s ‘Parasitic’? Analysis Shows Ethereum Only Gets a Tiny Percentage of Fees Ether-Bitcoin Ratio Is at Multi-Year Lows, But It’s Just ‘Temporary’ and an ‘Opportunity’ Timestamps:  00:00 Intro 01:25 What sparked Jon's interest in this topic? 03:35 Key takeaways from the paper 08:30 How staking taxes could change the game 13:46 Why traditional models fail for blockchain 20:10 Are Layer 2s helping or hurting Layer 1s? 26:51 Can blockchains survive long term? 29:20 News Recap Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jon Charbonneau

Analyst

DBA ResearchDBADelphi Digital

On today's episode Santi and Jason are joined by Keone Hon, co-founder of Monad, and Jon Charbonneau co-founder of dba, to discuss building performant blockchains and the tradeoffs between modular versus integrated architectures. They cover Monad's design decisions including choosing the EVM for developer portability, implementing optimistic parallel execution for efficiency, and developing the MonadDB state database for fast data access. They also unpack the hardware requirements for validators, alt L1 ecosystem competition, and how to build lasting communities around protocols. Stay tuned for all this and much more! - - Follow Jon: https://twitter.com/jon_charb Follow Keone: https://twitter.com/keoneHD Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Santiago: https://twitter.com/santiagoroel Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Subscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2j Subscribe on Apple: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7 Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Arbitrum is a game-changer for daily Ethereum's users and developers, offering top applications and lower fees. As the leading scaling solution with 600+ apps, explore Arbitrum’s Portal to find your perfect fit. Interact with the home of DeFi, a flourishing NFT and creator ecosystem, and a rapidly growing Web3 gaming hub – Arbitrum has it all.  Get started at: portal.arbitrum.io  - - Harpie is the most advanced on-chain security solution for monitoring and protecting your crypto wallet from theft in real time. Harpie detects, blocks, and recovers compromised assets from malicious transactions before they execute, and is the only security tool to also protect users from off-chain signature attacks like the recent Ledger Connect Kit exploit. Secure your wallet for free at harpie.io. - - Join us at DAS (Digital Asset Summit) in London this March! DAS is the #1 institutional conference in crypto, hosted by Blockworks. Use the link below to learn more, and use EMPIRE10 to get 10% off your ticket! Sign up now because the price goes up every month. See you there! Learn more + get your ticket here: https://blockworks.co/event/digital-asset-summit-2024-london/home - - Timestamps: (00:00) Why Build Monad? (06:58) Why the EVM (13:17) L2 vs L1 App Chain Decision (15:21) Parallelized Systems & Scalability (32:40) Monad Transaction Overview (41:11) Arbitrum Ad (41:59) Harpie Ad (43:14) Validator Hardware Requirements (56:27) Monad Vision & Competitive Position (01:01:14) Attracting Users and Developer (01:07:00) What Actually Goes Onchain? - - Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

Keone Hon

Co-Founder & CEO

MonadMonad Labs

Jon Charbonneau

Analyst

DBA ResearchDBADelphi Digital

What’s Data Availability (DA) and what’s its Business Model? In this episode we’re welcomed by Jon Charbonneau, researcher-investor at DBA and Neel Somani, CEO of Eclipse. We unpack everything Data Availability from what it unlocks to its economics. We also get into the DA Market covering participants like Celestia and EigenDA. ------ 📣SUI | Register for Sui Basecamp https://bankless.cc/sui-basecamp  ------ 🎧 Listen On Your Favorite Podcast Player:  https://bankless.cc/Podcast  ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🐙KRAKEN | MOST-TRUSTED CRYPTO EXCHANGE https://k.xyz/bankless-pod-q2    ⁠  🔗CELO | CEL2 COMING SOON https://bankless.cc/Celo    🗣️TOKU | CRYPTO EMPLOYMENT SOLUTION https://bankless.cc/toku    🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle    ⚖️ARBITRUM | SCALING ETHEREUM ⁠https://bankless.cc/Arbitrum   💸 CRYPTO TAX CALCULATOR | USE CODE BANK30 https://bankless.cc/CTC  ------ TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Intro 7:27 What is DA? 16:45 Is DA a Commodity? 23:40 DA Costs 30:23 What DA Unlocks 37:41 The DA Market 1:01:40 Network Effects 1:07:56 DA Economics 1:14:50 DA Value Capture 1:20:23 Celestia Monetary Premium 1:29:10 What’s Next for DA 1:34:29 Solana DA 1:36:01 Closing Thoughts ------ RESOURCES Jon Charbonneau https://twitter.com/jon_charb  Neel Somani https://twitter.com/neelsalami  Celestia https://celestia.org/   EigenDA https://docs.eigenlayer.xyz/eigenda/overview  ------ Not financial or tax advice. This channel is strictly educational and is not investment advice or a solicitation to buy or sell any assets or to make any financial decisions. This video is not tax advice. Talk to your accountant. Do your own research. Disclosure. From time-to-time I may add links in this newsletter to products I use. I may receive commission if you make a purchase through one of these links. Additionally, the Bankless writers hold crypto assets. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures

Jon Charbonneau

Analyst

DBA ResearchDBADelphi Digital

Neel Somani

CEO

Eclipse

This episode is sponsored by Netsuite by Oracle, the number one cloud financial system, streamlining accounting, financial management, inventory, HR, and more. Download NetSuite's popular KPI Checklist, designed to give you consistently excellent performance - absolutely free, at NetSuite.com/EYEONAI. On episode #133 of the Eye on AI podcast, Craig Smith sits down with Michael Jordan. A revered scientist and distinguished professor at the University of California, Berkeley, Michael's expertise spans machine learning, statistics, and artificial intelligence. In this episode we explore the intricate landscape of deep learning, its statistical bedrock, and the myriad applications of machine learning methods. We dig deeper into the cloud computing revolution, ignited by deep learning, which has empowered behemoths like Amazon to streamline their logistics and commerce data. The dialogue continues as we uncover the trends in deep learning, its role in the grand scheme of AI, and the persisting challenges in the domain. We conclude by contemplating the repercussions of AI and optimization in complex systems. We examine its historical roots in the mid-20th century, its potential to replace jobs, and its application in various sectors such as financial markets, healthcare, and education. (00:00) Preview (01:00) Introduction (01:36) NetSuite by Oracle (03:53) Deep Learning Advancements in AI (12:56) AI Optimization in Complex Systems (28:53) Future of Machine Learning in Healthcare (39:45) Privacy and Value in Multi-Agent Learning (54:48) Learning Systems, Avatars, and Music Business (1:02:20) Single Source of Truth for Business Owners (1:04:28) NetSuite by Oracle Craig Smith Twitter: https://twitter.com/craigss Eye on A.I. Twitter: https://twitter.com/EyeOn_AI

Michael Jordan

Distinguished Professor

UC BerkeleyDBA

Uncommon Core - one of my favorite podcasts of all time - is back! This reboot is hosted by Hasu and Jon Charbonneau, two of the brightest minds in crypto. We are dropping their first episode here to share the news and because you’ll want to add this show to your podcast lineup! __ In this episode, we explore Jon’s journey into crypto and our mutual passion for research and the writing process. We then give an overview of the key areas of crypto infrastructure today. Finally, we zoom into rollup decentralization roadmaps, and Jon shares a controversial new thesis about sequencer decentralization. __ Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (02:42) Interview start (03:44) Jon's work week (08:04) ChatGPT & writing (10:57) Jon's start in crypto (14:45) How to pick things to work on (17:08) Outsider's perspective on crypto (19:05) Jon's research process (22:00) Jon's proudest moment in crypto (23:06) Crypto Infrastructure overview (29:58) Why crypto infrastructure is interesting (35:57) Rollup decentralization overview (42:44) Challenges decentralizing the sequencer (47:46) Ethereum vs Cosmos approach to governance & decentralization (53:35) User ability to opt out (56:37) Staking vs. governance deciding sequencers (01:08:31) L3s (01:13:34) Superchain (01:16:38) Summary of rollup decentralization (01:21:08) Outro __ Hasu - https://twitter.com/hasufl Jon Charbonneau - https://twitter.com/jon_charb UCC2 - https://twitter.com/UCC2_xyz Website - https://ucc2.xyz __ Disclaimer: The material and information presented in this podcast is for general informational purposes only and should not be considered investment advice. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the speakers and are not the views of any entity or other person with whom the speaker is affiliated, including, without limitation, DBA Crypto, LLC. The “DBA Crypto” name and all forms thereof are the sole property of its owner, and its use does not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service.

Hasu

Strategy Lead

FlashbotsLidoParadigm

Jon Charbonneau

Analyst

DBA ResearchDBADelphi Digital

In today's episode, Jon unpacks his relatively controversially titled new piece, "ETH Is Not Ultrasound Money: Part 1" Is ETH doomed? Was Ultrasound money a myth? Tune in to hear Jon's arguments.  ------  MetaMask Learn  https://bankless.cc/metamaskshow  ------  JOIN BANKLESS PREMIUM:  https://newsletter.banklesshq.com/subscribe  ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS:  KRAKEN | MOST-TRUSTED CRYPTO EXCHANGE https://bankless.cc/kraken  UNISWAP | ON-CHAIN MARKETPLACE https://bankless.cc/uniswap  ️ ARBITRUM | SCALING ETHEREUM https://bankless.cc/Arbitrum   EARNIFI | CLAIM YOUR UNCLAIMED AIRDROPS https://bankless.cc/earnifi   ------ Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 5:06 Jon's Argument 11:30 Triple Point Asset Thesis 17:52 ETH 18:53 The Disagreement 22:10 Semantics  26:40 Profit  30:00 PoW vs. PoS 33:15 Does Issuance Matter? & L1s & L2s 37:57 Blockchain Sustainability  42:00 Deflation vs. Inflation Value 47:50 How is Jon's Argument Bullish? 51:35 Alt L1s Issuance 59:20 Jon's Model Spreadsheet 1:17:53 Closing & Disclaimers ------ Resources: Jon Charbonneau https://twitter.com/jon_charb  Jon's Essay https://joncharbonneau.substack.com/p/eth-is-not-ultrasound-money-part  Jon's Model Spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UlxKC98STwN-AoonytC-qOscZ_99fAMpMvB6EfGGe9E/edit#gid=0  ----- Not financial or tax advice. This channel is strictly educational and is not investment advice or a solicitation to buy or sell any assets or to make any financial decisions. This video is not tax advice. Talk to your accountant. Do your own research. Disclosure. From time-to-time I may add links in this newsletter to products I use. I may receive commission if you make a purchase through one of these links. Additionally, the Bankless writers hold crypto assets. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures

Jon Charbonneau

Analyst

DBA ResearchDBADelphi Digital

Michael Jordan, founder at DBA and former co-head of investments at Galaxy Digital, and Alex Pack, managing partner at Hack VC, talk about the potential insolvency of Genesis and DCG, the cycle of credit expansion, and the importance of DeFi to prevent these situations.    Show highlights: what will happen with Genesis and its parent company DCG where the insolvency of Genesis might have come from how the expansion of crypto lending in 2021 is impacting the markets and the role the Fed played in this expansion how the Terra collapse kickstarted a ton of contagion effects in crypto companies Alex's story of why he did not invest in Alameda in 2018 whether it is possible to prevent the "FTXs of the future" the importance of assessing the quality of collateral assets the story of when SBF called DeFi a "Ponzi black box" the mystery of where FTX Ventures got the $2 billion it planned to invest    Take Unchained's 2022 survey!   Unchained is doing its annual survey. Tell us how you think we’re doing and how we could improve, whether it be on the podcast, in the newsletter, or in our premium offering. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!  Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Chainalysis Minima   Michael: Twitter Previous Unchained episodes: Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting? Alex: Twitter     Episode Links Previous coverage of Unchained on Genesis and FTX:   Why Genesis Could Very Well Be Insolvent, Not Just Illiquid Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting? Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX? The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater  Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto? Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC   Genesis: Unchained:  Genesis Warns of Bankruptcy If Funding Plans Fail: Report On-chain Analysts ID 432 GBTC Addresses After Grayscale Says No to Proof-of-Reserves WSJ: Crypto Lender Genesis Asks Binance and Apollo for Cash Decrypt: Digital Currency Group Says No Imminent Threat Despite Owing Genesis $575M The Block: DCG CEO Barry Silbert updates shareholders, says company will emerge 'stronger'   FTX Collapse: First declaration document Unchained: FTX Bankruptcy Overseer Says Company’s Collapse Is Worst He’s Ever Seen SBF tweet: FTX files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection Bloomberg: Transcript: Sam Bankman-Fried and Matt Levine on How to Make Money in Crypto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Michael Jordan

Distinguished Professor

UC BerkeleyDBA

Alex Pack

Managing Partner

Hack VCDragonfly Capital

Jon Charbonneau, Research Analyst at Delphi Digital joins David to talk about his recent essay titled, "The Hitchhiker's Guide to Ethereum." Proposer / Builder Separation (PBS) Danksharding and ProtoDanksharding (DS + PDS) Data Availability Sampling (DAS) What the absolute HELL are these things? What do they mean for Ethereum? What's the common theme behind all of them? And what do they mean for ETH? All of these questions answered and so much more in the livestream. ------ 📣 ALCHEMIX | Get a self-repaying loan today! https://bankless.cc/Alchemix ------ 🚀 SUBSCRIBE TO NEWSLETTER: https://newsletter.banklesshq.com/  🎙️ SUBSCRIBE TO PODCAST: http://podcast.banklesshq.com/  ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: ⚖️ ARBITRUM | SCALED ETHEREUM https://bankless.cc/Arbitrum  ❎ ACROSS | BRIDGE TO LAYER 2 https://bankless.cc/Across  🏦 ALTO IRA | TAX-FREE CRYPTO https://bankless.cc/AltoIRA  👻 AAVE V3 | LEND & BORROW CRYPTO https://bankless.cc/aave  ⚡️ LIDO | LIQUID ETH STAKING https://bankless.cc/lido  🔐 LEDGER | NANO S PLUS WALLET https://bankless.cc/Ledger  ------ Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 6:00 The Vibe of the Ethereum Roadmap 8:50 The Hitchhiker's Guide to Ethereum 17:06 The End State of Ethereum 23:05 Data Availability Sampling 34:49 Proto to Full Danksharding 48:15 Proposer Builder Separation 54:01 Checks & Balances 56:10 Incentives in Being a Builder 1:01:50 Centralization 1:03:50 Comparing Ethereum’s Scaling Strategies 1:05:54 Value Capture 1:07:20 How Jon Understands Everything ------ Resources: Jon Charbonneau https://twitter.com/jon_charb  Delphi Digital https://delphidigital.io/  The Hitchhiker's Guide to Ethereum https://members.delphidigital.io/reports/the-hitchhikers-guide-to-ethereum  Valuing Layer 1s - Memes, Money, or More? https://members.delphidigital.io/reports/valuing-layer-1s-memes-money-or-more  ----- Not financial or tax advice. This channel is strictly educational and is not investment advice or a solicitation to buy or sell any assets or to make any financial decisions. This video is not tax advice. Talk to your accountant. Do your own research. Disclosure. From time-to-time I may add links in this newsletter to products I use. I may receive commission if you make a purchase through one of these links. Additionally, the Bankless writers hold crypto assets. See our investment disclosures here: https://newsletter.banklesshq.com/p/bankless-disclosures

Jon Charbonneau

Analyst

DBA ResearchDBADelphi Digital