Harness CEO Jyoti Bansal on Why AI Coding Doesn't Help You Ship Faster
Harness co-founder Jyoti Bansal highlights a growing issue in software development: while AI tools help generate more code, they often create bottlenecks further along the pipeline, especially in testing, deployment, and compliance. Since its 2017 launch, Harness has aimed to streamline these stages using AI and machine learning. With the rise of large language models (LLMs), the company shifted toward agentic AI, introducing a library of specialized agents—like DevOps, SRE, AppSec, and FinOps agents—that operate behind a unified interface called Harness AI. These agents assist in building production pipelines, not deploying code directly, ensuring human oversight remains critical for compliance and security.
Bansal emphasizes that AI in development isn't replacing people but accelerating workflows to meet tighter timelines. He also notes strong enterprise adoption, with even large, traditionally slower-moving organizations embracing AI integration. On the topic of an AI bubble, Bansal sees it as a natural part of innovation, akin to the Dotcom era, where market excitement can still lead to meaningful long-term transformation despite short-term volatility.
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He sold his first company for billions. Now he’s building a better developer experience.
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#183 CEO & Co-Founder Harness, Jyoti Bansal: Three-Layered Cake
Guest: Jyoti Bansal, CEO and co-founder of Harness
Cisco bought Jyoti Bansal’s first company AppDynamics for $3.7 billion, making him a very wealthy man. But after two African safaris, a week of Michelin-starred meals in Tokyo, and more adventures all around the world, he realized that spending his money didn’t truly make him happy. After some soul-searching, he realized what he really enjoyed: “I liked to build companies. That is my craft ... If someone enjoys playing gold for six hours, I would enjoy working on a startup for six hours.”
In this episode, Jyoti and Joubin discuss the evolution of Grit, Carlos Delatorre, Tom Mendoza, Glean, growing up in India, traveling the world, three-star restaurants, soul-searching, automating gruntwork, paying for nice hotels, red-eye flights, product-market fit, Jeff Bezos, the “three-layered cake,” Frank Slootman, raising the bar for distribution, technical debt, structural efficiency, and taking pride in your work.
In this episode, we cover:
(00:59) - Top-tier CROs
(04:18) - The video game levels of startups
(07:24) - Selling AppDynamics to Cisco
(09:16) - Keeping up with high-growth companies
(12:10) - The chip on Jyoti’s shoulder
(16:15) - How he thinks about money
(18:02) - Do what you enjoy every day
(22:32) - “What would make me happy?”
(24:56) - Starting BIG Labs and Harness
(29:16) - Adjusting to a new reality
(34:13) - Work-life balance
(36:30) - What gets easier — and harder — over time
(41:44) - Product vs. distribution
(46:46) - Paying it forward
(48:29) - The next level
(50:24) - The four lists
(53:45) - Assigning clear responsibilities
(56:06) - Jyoti’s favorite interview question
(57:41) - Who Harness is hiring
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EP 73: Jyoti Bansal (Founder, AppDynamics): Life After Selling a $3.7B Company
Jyoti Bonsal was the founder and CEO of AppDynamics, which sold in 2017 to Cisco for $3.7 billion right before it went public. We talk about that sale as well as Jody now running two separate businesses. He's the CEO of Harness. Which not coincidentally, was most recently valued at $3.7 billion, as well as the CEO of Traceable ai, which was recently valued at $450 million.
In this conversation, Jody and I talk about a bunch of different things related to operating and his different frameworks for making decisions for finding product market fit, hiring executives, firing executives, as well as the saddest day he had running AppDynamics, which was the day he actually sold the business to Cisco. A really interesting conversation, one of the more thoughtful and tactical leaders that exist in the world of startups.
(0:00) Intro
(1:40) Welcome Jyoti Bansal
(2:51) Time management
(8:43) Finding product market fit
(19:05) Product development cycle
(23:12) Startups within startups
(29:14) AppDynamics
(34:14) Lessons for young founders
(43:16) Hiring someone who's "been there, done that"
(51:02) Process of fundraising
(56:04) Reach the highest tier of VC firm
(59:45) Finding investors that believe in you and your company
(1:07:20) Founding AppD
(1:13:47) Ending up a solo founder
(1:20:42) Selling to Cisco
(1:27:33) Current state of the markets
(1:31:09) Jyoti's thoughts on AI
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Executive Producer: Josh Machiz
Music: Griff Lawson
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How to Find Product-Market-Sales Fit
In this episode from February 2019, Jyoti Bansal, founding CEO of AppDynamics and co-founder of Unusual Ventures, joins a16z general partner Peter Levine, a16z partner Sateesh Talluri, and host Sonal Choksi to discuss how product and sales evolve together for enterprise go-to-market, including key milestones for both product development and marketing, frameworks for how to think about pre- to post-product market fit, the role of additional levers like services or pricing, and more.
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SaaStr 453: Harness CEO and Co-Founder Jyoti Bansal on Building a Second Unicorn, Lessons Learned the Next Time Around
Serial entrepreneur Jyoti Bansal founded AppDynamics, a company sold to Cisco in 2017 for $3.7 billion but didn't stop there. He went on to launch Harness which gained Unicorn status this year. Hear from Jyoti about the lessons he's learned from building not one but two unicorn companies.
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a16z Podcast: Product-Market SALES Fit (What Comes First?)
with Jyoti Bansal (@jyotibansalsf), Peter Levine, Satish Talluri (@satishtalluri), and Sonal Chokshi (@smc90)
One of the toughest challenges for founders -- and especially technical founders who are used to focusing so much on product features over sales -- is striking "product-market fit". The concept can be defined many ways, but the simple definition shared in this episode is: it's when you understand the business value of your product.
And that comes down to users, which is where the concept of "product-market-sales fit" comes in, observes Jyoti Bansal, founding CEO of AppDynamics (which was acquired by Cisco for $3.7B the night before it was to IPO). Bansal shares this and other key milestones and frameworks for company building in conversation with a16z general partner Peter Levine; enterprise deal team partner Satish Talluri (who was a director of product and growth operations there); and Sonal Chokshi.
So in that shift from product-market fit to product-market-SALES fit, how much should you optimize your go-to-market for product... and even the other way around? What does this mean for product design and product management? When should companies offer services? As for pricing, how do you know you're not leaving value on the table? Again, it comes down to product-market fit: If your business case is strong, you will not be leaving money on the table, argues Bansal in this special podcast series on founder stories and lessons learned in enterprise go-to-market.
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20VC: AppDynamic's Jyoti Bansal on The Sale vs IPO Process with AppDynamics' $3.7Bn Exit & The 3 Simple Things VCs Look For When Investing In Startups
Jyoti Bansal is the former Founder & CEO of AppDynamics, backed to the tune of over $350m in VC funding from the likes of Lightspeed, Greylock and Kleiner Perkins, just to name a few, before it's ultimate acquisition by Cisco for $3.7Bn. Today, Jyoti is the Founder and CEO of BIG Labs, essentially a laboratory for creating, developing, and launching innovative ideas. The first of these ideas being turned into companies being, Harness.io the industry's first continuous delivery as a service platform, where Jyoti is the Founder & CEO. As a result of his tremendous success, Jyoti has been a recipient of many leadership awards including, "Best Cloud Computing CEO to Work For," "Best CEO" by San Francisco Business Times.
In Today's Episode You Will Learn:
1.) How Jyoti made his way from selling farm machinery with his father in India to founding and selling AppDynamics for $3.7Bn?
2.) How does Jyoti look to build world class teams around him? What are the core characteristics and profiles and seed success into an organisation? How does Jyoti look to optimise each individual function in the organisation?
3.) What did the sale process of AppDynamics look like? Did Jyoti and the team run a dual process of acquisition & IPO? How did the deal come about? What were the negotiations like? Why did Jyoti turn down the first two offers? What was critical to the successful deal?
4.) Jyoti has said before, "there are 3 simple things VCs look for". What are those 3 things? How did the fundraising of AppDynamics go in the early days? What was it about the first 20 pitches that made VCs say no? What does Jyoti most look for now when choosing the VCs to work with?
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SaaStr 151: AppDynamics Founder, Jyoti Bansal on The Requirements To Proceed Through The Scaling Stages in SaaS To Build One Of The Fastest Growing Enterprise Companies And Achieve a $3.7Bn Exit
Jyoti Bansal is the former Founder & CEO @ AppDynamics, backed by the likes of Lightspeed, Greylock and Kleiner Perkins just to name a few before it's ultimate acquisition by Cisco for $3.7Bn. Today, Jyoti is the Founder and CEO @ BIG Labs essentially a laboratory for creating, developing and launching innovative ideas. The first of these ideas being turned into companies being, Harness.io the industry's first continuous delivery as a service platform, where Jyoti is the Founder & CEO. As a result of his tremendous success, Jyoti has been a recipient of many leadership awards including, "Best Cloud Computing CEO to Work For", "Best CEO" by San Francisco Business Times.
In Today's Episode You Will Learn:
How Jyoti made his way from selling agricultural machinery with his father in India to creating one of the fastest growing enterprise companies with AppDynamics?
$0-3m ARR: What is the key goal and objective for startups scaling through this phase? How can startups look to accurately determine what their North Star in this stage? To what extent should the founder involve the customer in product roadmap and development?
$10-15m ARR: What are the core objectives for the business in this stage of the cycle? How should founders view competition through this phase? What does Jyoti mean when he says about "go-to-market strategy fit"? How can this be determined most accurately?
$60-80m: What should be front and centre of the mind of the entrepreneur at this stage? Why does Jyoti believe it is here that it is crucial to get sales execution right? WHere are the breaking points that occur in the team scaling at this phase? How does the role CEO change here?
Pre-IPO: Why is operational efficiency so crucial in this stage of the business? What did AppDynamics do best at this stage of the business? Where would Jyoti say AppDynamics could have done better in the progression through this stage?
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What does Jyoti know now that he wishes he had known at the beginning of Appdynamics?
What is Jyoti's must read SaaS material?
Payback period is the most important metric?
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