Talk Python To Me

Security has always been the vegetables of software. Everyone agrees it matters, and somehow it never quite makes it onto the plate. At PyCon US this year, that changed. For the first time ever, security got its own dedicated, day-long track, one of just two at the whole conference, sitting right next to AI. And the room was packed to the back wall. On this episode, I'm joined by the three people at the center of it. Seth Larson, Security Developer in Residence at the Python Software Foundation and, very recently, a CPython core developer. Juanita Gomez, a PhD researcher at UC Santa Cruz in open source security, who co-chaired the track. And Mike Fiedler, PyPI's Safety and Security Engineer, one of the very few people paid full-time to keep the packages you install safe. We use the arc of the track's talks to take the temperature of Python security right now: supply chain attacks, dependency cooldowns, zero trust, SBOMs, and the push to bring Rust into CPython. And why not one of us thinks security is anywhere close to solved. Turns out that's the good news. It's why the room was full. Episode sponsors Sentry Error Monitoring, Code talkpython26 Talk Python Courses Links from the show Guests Juanita Gomez: linkedin.com Mike Fiedler: miketheman.dev Seth Michael Larson: sethmlarson.dev Trailblazing Python Security: us.pycon.org Everything Security at PyCon US 2026 (PSF blog): pyfound.blogspot.com Dependency Cooldowns: cooldowns.dev Anatomy of a Phishing Campaign (Mike Fiedler) Recording: www.youtube.com FedRAMP: www.gsa.gov Zero Trust in 200ms: Implementing Identity-Per-Transaction with Python & Serverless-Tristan McKinnon: www.youtube.com Rust for CPython project: blog.python.org pre-PEP: discuss.python.org Rust for CPython: Making Python Safer and More Robust for Everyone - Emma Smith: www.youtube.com SBOMit: github.com Asleep at the Wheel: Getting your SBOMs to pay attention... - Sanchit Sahay, Abhishek Reddypalle: www.youtube.com Volatility: volatilityfoundation.org Post Incident Runtime SBOM Generation from Python Memory - Hala Ali: www.youtube.com zizmor: docs.zizmor.sh GitHub Actions security in Python packages (Andrew Nesbitt write-up): nesbitt.io andrew/pycon: data & analysis for the GitHub Actions security talk: github.com GitHub Actions Security in Python Packages - Andrew Nesbitt: www.youtube.com gh-profiler: examine a GitHub user's profile to gauge their contributions: github.com PyCon US YouTube channel: www.youtube.com SBOMit: adding verification to SBOMs (OpenSSF): openssf.org Ecosystems: ecosyste.ms Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #557 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/557 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

Seth Larson

Security Developer in Residence

Python Software Foundation

Juanita Gomez

PhD Researcher in Open Source Security

University of California, Santa Cruz

Mike Fiedler

Safety and Security Engineer

Python Software Foundation

For years, "Django and async" came with an asterisk. The docs themselves warned you off it. Scary performance notes, a story that felt half-finished. Well, that story just got rewritten, literally, and the person who rewrote it is here to tell you why the old framing was wrong. Carlton Gibson is a former Django Fellow, sat on the security team for eight years, and he's on the steering council. On this episode we get into the async topic doc rewrite, what actually remains versus what was just fear, the new Tasks framework in 6.0, DB-level cascades and fetch modes landing in 6.1, and why free-threading is the bet that's about to pay off big for Django. If you've been told Django's async story isn't ready, this is the episode that puts that myth to bed. Episode sponsors Sentry Error Monitoring, Code talkpython26 Python in Production Talk Python Courses Links from the show DjangoCon Europe: djangocon.eu PyCon Italia: pycon.it Django on the Med: djangomed.eu Django Mantle: noumenal.es PyPI: pypi.org release notes: docs.djangoproject.com on_delete: docs.djangoproject.com Fetch modes: docs.djangoproject.com HttpRequest.multipart_parser_class: docs.djangoproject.com async topic doc: docs.djangoproject.com docs: docs.djangoproject.com DEP 14: github.com django-tasks: github.com django-tasks-local: github.com Celery: docs.celeryq.dev PEP 703: peps.python.org free-threading HOWTO: docs.python.org PEP 779: peps.python.org ASGI: docs.djangoproject.com PGBouncer: www.pgbouncer.org Channels: channels.readthedocs.io sync_to_async / async_to_sync: docs.djangoproject.com noumenal.es: noumenal.es Django Chat: djangochat.com @carlton@fosstodon.org: fosstodon.org Article: Cutting Python Web App Memory Over 31%: mkennedy.codes Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #556 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/556 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

Carlton Gibson

Django Fellow

Django Software Foundation

Coding agents have gotten really good at one kind of work. You scope a feature, edit some files, run the tests, ship it. It all happens on disk. But that is not how data work feels. You load something, you look at it, you run a cell, you watch how it responds, and you decide the next move from whatever is sitting in memory. And until now, your agent couldn't see any of that. It only saw the files. Never the live state. This episode, that wall comes down. marimo pair drops a coding agent right inside a running notebook, with full access to every variable Python is holding in memory. The notebook becomes a shared canvas. You point, it runs the code. You tell it to zoom in on the Picasso paintings, and the chart just updates. No MCP tools to wire up, no schema to describe. Just Python, and an agent that can finally see what you see. Trevor Manz is back to walk us through it. Episode sponsors Sentry Error Monitoring, Code talkpython26 Talk Python Courses Links from the show marimo pair: marimo.io/pair Course transcripts announcement: talkpython.fm/blog anywidget: Jupyter Widgets made easy: talkpython.fm marimo: marimo.io blog: marimo.io GitHub: github.com given this: martinalderson.com llms.txt: talkpython.fm mcp: talkpython.fm cli: talkpython.fm open issues: github.com Discord: marimo.io Marimo Pair: marimo.io OpenCode: opencode.ai AI Tooling for Software Engineers in 2026: newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #555 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/555 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

You ask an AI a question and it answers with total confidence. Most of the time, a confidently wrong answer is just an annoyance. But what if the question is medical, and there's a real patient on the other end? In that world, a hallucination isn't a bug, it's a patient-safety event. Sumit Gundawar is a London-based software engineer who builds the clinical platform for a UK longevity and aesthetic-medicine clinic, and his whole argument is that in high-stakes AI, the model is the easy part. Earning trust is the real engineering. We dig into grounding, refusal logic, human-in-the-loop design, and the messy frontier of longevity and biohacking, plus a live demo of an assistant that refuses to answer when it can't back up the claim. Let's get into it. Episode sponsors Six Feet Up Talk Python Courses Links from the show Guest Sumit Gundawar: linkedin.com Course transcripts announcement: talkpython.fm/blog Sumit Gundawar - JAX London Speaker: jaxlondon.com Anthropic: anthropic.com OpenAI Platform: platform.openai.com Anthropic: anthropic.com LangChain: langchain.com OWASP: owasp.org Pydantic: pydantic.dev EU AI Act - Regulatory Framework: digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu HIPAA - HHS: www.hhs.gov NHS: www.nhs.uk Llama: llama.com Qwen - QwenLM on GitHub: github.com OpenAI Platform: platform.openai.com Hugging Face: huggingface.co Llama: llama.com Granola: www.granola.ai HIPAA - HHS: www.hhs.gov CodeRabbit: www.coderabbit.ai Cursor Origin: cursor.com GitHub Status: www.githubstatus.com Midjourney Medical: www.midjourney.com Neko Health: www.nekohealth.com CERN: home.cern ATLAS Experiment: atlas.cern Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #554 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/554 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

This episode is a fun crossover from our Python news and tips podcast, Python Bytes. We have had some big changes over there. Brian Okken has moved on and Calvin Hendryx-Parker has joined the show as the new co-host. To kick off this new era, we decided to do a longer and more personal episode called "All Our Tools". The idea is both of us talk about some of our most useful day-to-day developer and business owner tools that we think you all would find useful. It was so well received, that I'm bringing it to you all as a crossover episode. Enjoy and we hope you find something new and awesome to help you with your software and data science day to day. Episode sponsors Sentry Error Monitoring, Code talkpython26 Python in Production Talk Python Courses Links from the show @calvinhp@sixfeetup.social: sixfeetup.social @calvinhp.com: bsky.app calvinhp.com: calvinhp.com Original airing on Python Bytes: pythonbytes.fm pi: pi.dev superpowers: github.com Warp.dev: Warp.dev OhMyZSH: ohmyz.sh Commandbookapp.com: Commandbookapp.com Blink: blink.sh kitty: sw.kovidgoyal.net mosh: mosh.org tmux: github.com Claude code: www.anthropic.com Claude.md: Claude.md MacWhisper: goodsnooze.gumroad.com Handy: handy.computer Tailscale: tailscale.com Talk Python episode with Alex: talkpython.fm Telescopo: www.telescopo.app Typora markdown: typora.io formal documentation for many of my open source packages: mkennedy.codes Great Docs: posit-dev.github.io Statement on the US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5: www.anthropic.com No second date: x.com Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #553 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/553 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

OpenAI just acquired Astral, the company behind uv, Ruff, and ty. And if your first thought was "wait, is uv toast?", you are not alone. But here's the twist Charlie Marsh shared with me: he thinks they may ship more open source at OpenAI than they ever did at Astral. On this episode, we get into the acquisition, the mixed feelings, the future of your favorite Python tools, and what it's like to build right at the center of the AI universe. Episode sponsors Sentry Error Monitoring, Code talkpython26 Talk Python Courses Links from the show Guest Charlie Marsh: github.com The announcement: astral.sh OpenAI: openai.com uv: github.com ty: github.com Ruff: github.com pyx: astral.sh Codex team: openai.com Anthropic did something similar by acquiring Bun: www.anthropic.com Daily Stars Explorer: emanuelef.github.io Agentic AI Programming for Python: training.talkpython.fm Python Web Security: OWASP Top 10 with Agentic AI: training.talkpython.fm Episode #552 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/552 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

Charlie Marsh

Founder

AstralOpenAI

If you've ever been to PyCon, you know one of the best parts of the expo hall is Startup Row, a stretch of booths where early-stage companies built on Python show off what they're creating. But only attendees get to walk that lane, so let's bring it to everyone. In this episode, we stroll down Startup Row together. We kick things off with the organizers, Jason and Shay, who share the program's origin story going back to Paul Graham and the PSF, plus some surprising stats, including two unicorns among the alumni. Then we meet five startups: Tetrix, bringing AI to institutional investing in private markets. Arcjet, security that lives inside your app as an SDK. Phemeral.dev, serverless hosting built for Python web apps. CapiscIO, an identity and authority layer for AI agents. And Pixeltable, a multimodal database from Marcel Kornacker, co-creator of Apache Parquet. See if you can spot the theme running through them all. Let's go for a walk. Episode sponsors AgentField AI Talk Python Courses Links from the show Guests Naunidh Bhalla: linkedin.com Grant Gittes: linkedin.com Marcel Kornacker: linkedin.com Beon de Nood: linkedin.com Chinmaya Joshi: linkedin.com David Mytton: linkedin.com Shea Tate-Di Donna: linkedin.com Jason Rowley: linkedin.com Azul Garza: github.com Renée Rosillo: linkedin.com Tetrix: tetrix.co Tetrix Jobs: tetrix.co Arcjet: arcjet.com Pixeltable: pixeltable.com Phemeral.dev: phemeral.dev CapiscIO: capisc.io Episode #551 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/551 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

You wake up, brew the coffee, open GitHub, and there it is. Another pull request on your open source project. Thirteen thousand lines added. No issue filed first. No discussion. Just "here, please review this for me." Over the past year, GitHub activity has spiked roughly twelve times in a few short months, and a huge chunk of that signal is landing on the same small group of maintainers who were already stretched thin. The curl bug bounty got buried under AI-generated noise. Jazzband, the home of Django classics like pip-tools and the Django debug toolbar, hit what its maintainer called an "apocalypse" and started sunsetting. Even CPython just shipped fresh guidelines on AI-assisted contributions this week. So what does all of this actually look like from the receiving end of the pull request? On this episode, Paolo Melchiorre joins us to tell that story from inside the maintainer's chair. Paolo is a director of the Django Software Foundation, an organizer of PyCon Italy, a Django Girls coach, and he has spent the past year carefully collecting examples of how AI is reshaping open source contributions. The good, the bad, and the extra fingers. We dig into his PyCon US talk on AI-assisted contributions and maintainer load, why AI is best understood as an amplifier rather than a new kind of contributor, the wildly different policies across 86 open source foundations, whether projects banning AI today are reacting to last year's models. Episode sponsors AgentField AI Talk Python Courses Links from the show Guest Paolo Melchiorre: github.com DSF: www.djangoproject.com djangonaut-space: djangonaut.space PyCon Italia: 2026.pycon.it uDjango: github.com My PyCon US 2026 post: www.paulox.net AI-Assisted Contributions and Maintainer Load: www.paulox.net Senior Engineer Tries Vibe Coding: www.youtube.com Code Rabbit AI PR Reviews: www.coderabbit.ai GitHub Usage Graphs: github.blog Update on CPython's AI Policies: fosstodon.org High-Quality Chaos from Curl: daniel.haxx.se The Generative AI Policy Landscape in Open Source: redmonk.com Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #550 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/550 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

Your documentation has two audiences now - humans reading the rendered HTML, and AI agents trying to make sense of your library. Rich Iannone and Michael Chow from Posit are back on Talk Python with a brand new Python documentation tool called Great Docs that takes both seriously. Rich is the creator of Great Tables, and before that the R package GT, the man has a serious eye for design, and he's pointed that energy at the Python docs ecosystem. We'll talk about how Great Docs spins up a polished site in three commands, why every page ships as Markdown for your favorite LLM, how it leans on Quarto for executable code blocks and tabbed install sections, and where it lands against Sphinx, MkDocs, and Zensical. Plus, you'll meet Tablin. Here we go. Episode sponsors Sentry Error Monitoring, Code talkpython26 Temporal Talk Python Courses Links from the show Guests Michael Chow: github.com Rich lannone: github.com Python Web Security with OWASP Top 10 and Agentic AI Course: talkpython.fm Great Docs: posit-dev.github.io/great-docs Great Tables: posit-dev.github.io GT Episode: talkpython.fm Sphinx: www.sphinx-doc.org mkdocs: www.mkdocs.org Zensical: zensical.org Hugo: gohugo.io Ghost: ghost.org Rs pkgdown: pkgdown.r-lib.org Quarto: quarto.org quickstart: posit-dev.github.io llms.txt file: llmstxt.org llms.txt: talkpython.fm mcp: talkpython.fm cli: talkpython.fm Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #549 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/549 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

Rich Iannone

Software Engineer

Posit

Michael Chow

CEO

PositThe Believer Company

What if your database worked more like Git? Every change captured as an immutable event you can replay, instead of a single mutating row that quietly forgets its own history. That's event sourcing, and Chris May is back on Talk Python, fresh off our Datastar panel, to walk us through what it actually looks like in Python. We'll cover the core patterns, the libraries to reach for, when not to use it, and why event sourcing turns out to be a surprisingly good fit for AI-assisted coding. Episode sponsors Sentry Error Monitoring, Code talkpython26 Temporal Talk Python Courses Links from the show Guest Chris May: everydaysuperpowers.dev Intro to event sourcing e-book: everydaysuperpowers.gumroad.com Domain-Driven Design: The Power of CQRS and Event Sourcing: How CQRS/ES Redefine Building Scalable System: ricofritzsche.me DDD: www.amazon.com Understanding Eventsourcing (Martin Dilger): www.amazon.com Event Sourcing Explained using Football Video: www.youtube.com Why I finally embraced event sourcing and why you should too article: everydaysuperpowers.dev valkey: valkey.io diskcache: talkpython.fm eventsourcing package: github.com eventsourcing docs: eventsourcing.readthedocs.io John Bywater: github.com Datastar: data-star.dev Microconf: microconf.com Event Modeling & Event Sourcing Podcast: podcast.eventmodeling.org Python Package Guides for AI Agents: github.com Iodine tablets AI joke: x.com KurrentDb: www.kurrent.io Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #548 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/548 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

Chris May

Software Developer

Everyday Superpowers

When OpenAI trained GPT-3, they didn't roll their own orchestration layer. They used Ray, an open source Python framework born out of the same Berkeley research lab lineage that gave us Apache Spark. And here's the twist: Ray was originally built for reinforcement learning research, then quietly faded as RL hit a wall. Until ChatGPT showed up. Suddenly reinforcement learning was back, as the post-training step that turns a raw language model into something genuinely useful. Edward Oakes and Richard Liaw, two founding engineers behind Ray and Anyscale, join me on Talk Python to tell that story. We'll trace Ray from its RISE Lab origins at UC Berkeley to powering some of the largest training runs in the world. We'll talk about what Ray actually is, a distributed execution engine for AI workloads, and how a few lines of Python become work running across hundreds of GPUs. We'll cover Ray Data for multimodal pipelines, the dashboard, the VS Code remote debugger, KubRay for Kubernetes, and where Ray fits alongside Dask, multiprocessing, and asyncio. If you've ever stared at a single-machine Python script and thought, "there has to be a better way to scale this", this one's for you Episode sponsors Sentry Error Monitoring, Code talkpython26 AgentField AI Talk Python Courses Links from the show Guests Richard Liaw: github.com Edward Oakes: github.com Ray: www.ray.io Example code (we used for walk-through): docs.ray.io Getting Started with Ray: docs.ray.io Ray Libraries: docs.ray.io kuberay: github.com Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #547 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/547 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

Edward Oakes

Founding Engineer

Anyscale

Richard Liaw

Founding Engineer

Anyscale

The cloud is convenient until it isn't. You upload your photos, sync your contacts, click through the cookie banners. Then prices go up again or you read about a family that lost their entire Google account over a medical photo sent to a doctor. At some point, the question shifts from "why would I run this myself?" to "why aren't I?" My guest this week is Alex Kretzschmar, head of DevRel at Tailscale, longtime host of the Self-Hosted podcast, and co-founder of Linuxserver.io. We cover what self-hosting really means in 2026, the apps worth running yourself like Immich and Home Assistant, why Docker Compose ties it all together, and how Tailscale lets you reach any of it from anywhere, without opening a single port. If you've been thinking about pulling your digital life back behind your own walls, this is your roadmap. Episode sponsors Temporal Talk Python Courses Links from the show Guest Alex Kretzschmar: alex.ktz.me Bitflip podcast: bitflip.show Self-Hosted podcast (Alex's previous show): selfhosted.show Perfect Media Server: perfectmediaserver.com KTZ Systems on YouTube: youtube.com/@ktzsystems Linuxserver.io (co-founded by Alex): linuxserver.io "How Tailscale Works" blog post: tailscale.com/blog/how-tailscale-works https://tailscale.com/: tailscale.com Self-hosted apps discussed Awesome Self-Hosted (GitHub list): github.com Immich (Google Photos alternative): immich.app Home Assistant: home-assistant.io Open Home Foundation: openhomefoundation.org Plausible Analytics: plausible.io Umami Analytics: umami.is Python integration for umami: pypi.org Pi-hole: pi-hole.net AdGuard Home: adguard.com NextDNS: nextdns.io Coolify: coolify.io Docker + ufw: docs.docker.com Storage, backup & filesystem OpenZFS: openzfs.org ZFS.rent (offsite ZFS replication): zfs.rent Backblaze: backblaze.com Hetzner Storage Box: hetzner.com DigitalOcean: digitalocean.com Secrets management mentioned OpenBao (open-source Vault fork): openbao.org HashiCorp Vault: hashicorp.com Bitwarden: bitwarden.com 1Password: 1password.com Hardware mentioned Proxmox VE: proxmox.com Minisforum MS01: minisforum.com Zima Board / Zima OS: zimaspace.com Other references Cory Doctorow on "enshittification" (Cory's blog where he coined the term): pluralistic.net Linus Tech Tips' WAN Show (Linus mentioned NAS-building going mainstream): linustechtips.com Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #546 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/546 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

Alex Kretzschmar

Engineer

TailscaleLinuxServer.io

The OWASP Top 10 just got a fresh update, and there are some big changes: supply chain attacks, exceptional condition handling, and more. Tanya Janca is back on Talk Python to walk us through every single one of them. And we're not just talking theory, we're going to turn Claude Code loose on a real open source project and see what it finds. Let's do it. Episode sponsors Temporal Talk Python Courses Links from the show DevSec Station Podcast: www.devsecstation.com SheHacksPurple Newsletter: newsletter.shehackspurple.ca owasp.org: owasp.org owasp.org/Top10/2025: owasp.org from here: github.com Kinto: github.com A01:2025 - Broken Access Control: owasp.org A02:2025 - SecuA02 Security Misconfiguration: owasp.org ASP.NET: ASP.NET A03:2025 - Software Supply Chain Failures: owasp.org A04:2025 - Cryptographic Failures: owasp.org A05:2025 - Injection: owasp.org A06:2025 - Insecure Design: owasp.org A07:2025 - Authentication Failures: owasp.org A08:2025 - Software or Data Integrity Failures: owasp.org A09:2025 - Security Logging and Alerting Failures: owasp.org A10 Mishandling of Exceptional Conditions: owasp.org https://github.com/KeygraphHQ/shannon: github.com anthropic.com/news/mozilla-firefox-security: www.anthropic.com generalpurpose.com/the-distillation/claude-mythos-what-it-means-for-your-business: www.generalpurpose.com Python Example Concepts: blobs.talkpython.fm Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #545 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/545 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

Tanya Janca

Founder

We Hack PurpleSheHacksPurpleSemgrepSecurity SidekickOWASP

When you pip install a package with compiled code, the wheel you get is built for CPU features from 2009. Want newer optimizations like AVX2? Your installer has no way to ask for them. GPU support? You're on your own configuring special index URLs. The result is fat binaries, nearly gigabyte-sized wheels, and install pages that read like puzzle books. A coalition from NVIDIA, Astral, and QuanSight has been working on Wheel Next: A set of PEPs that let packages declare what hardware they need and let installers like uv pick the right build automatically. Just uv pip install torch and it works. I sit down with Jonathan Dekhtiar from NVIDIA, Ralf Gommers from Quansight and the NumPy and SciPy teams, and Charlie Marsh, founder of Astral and creator of uv, to dig into all of it. Episode sponsors Sentry Error Monitoring, Code talkpython26 Temporal Talk Python Courses Links from the show Guests Charlie Marsh: github.com Ralf Gommers: github.com Jonathan Dekhtiar: github.com CPU dispatcher: numpy.org build options: numpy.org Red Hat RHEL: www.redhat.com Red Hat RHEL AI: www.redhat.com RedHats presentation: wheelnext.dev CUDA release: developer.nvidia.com requires a PEP: discuss.python.org WheelNext: wheelnext.dev Github repo: github.com PEP 817: peps.python.org PEP 825: discuss.python.org uv: docs.astral.sh A variant-enabled build of uv: astral.sh pyx: astral.sh pypackaging-native: pypackaging-native.github.io PEP 784: peps.python.org Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #544 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/544 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

Jonathan Dekhtiar

Engineer

NVIDIA

Ralf Gommers

Engineer

Quansight

When you type a question into ChatGPT, the model only has what you typed to work with. But tools like Claude Code can plan, iterate, test, and recover from mistakes. They work more like we do. The difference is the agent harness: Planning tools, file system access, sub-agents, and carefully crafted system prompts that turn a raw LLM into something genuinely capable. Sydney Runkle is back on Talk Python representing LangChain and their new open source library, Deep Agents: A framework for building your own deep agents with plain Python functions, middleware hooks, and MCP support. This is how the magic works under the hood. Episode sponsors Sentry Error Monitoring, Code talkpython26 Agentic AI Course Talk Python Courses Links from the show Guest Sydney Runkle: github.com Claude Code uses: x.com Deep Research: openai.com Manus: manus.im Blog post announcement: blog.langchain.com Claudes system prompt: github.com sub agents: docs.anthropic.com the quick start: docs.langchain.com CLIs: github.com Talk Python's CLI: talkpython.fm custom tools: docs.langchain.com DeepAgents Examples: github.com Custom Middleware: docs.langchain.com Built in middleware: docs.langchain.com Improving Deep Agents with harness engineering: blog.langchain.com Prebuilt middleware: docs.langchain.com Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #543 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/543 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

Sydney Runkle

Engineer

LangChain

If you've built documentation in the Python ecosystem, chances are you've used Martin Donath's work. His Material for MKDocs powers docs for FastAPI, uv, AWS, OpenAI, and tens of thousands of other projects. But when MKDocs 2.0 took a direction that would break Material and 300 ecosystem plugins, Martin went back to the drawing board. The result is Zensical: A new static site generator with a Rust core, differential builds in milliseconds instead of minutes, and a migration path designed to bring the whole community along. Episode sponsors Sentry Error Monitoring, Code talkpython26 Talk Python Courses Links from the show Guest Martin Donath: github.com Zensical: zensical.org Material for MkDocs: squidfunk.github.io Getting Started: zensical.org Github pages: docs.github.com Cloudflare pages: pages.cloudflare.com Michaels Example: gist.github.com Material for MkDocs: zensical.org gohugo.io/content-management/shortcodes: gohugo.io a sense of size of the project: blobs.talkpython.fm Zensical Spark: zensical.org Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #542 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/542 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

Martin Donath

Creator

Zensical

When LLMs write code to accomplish a task, that code has to actually run somewhere. And right now, the options aren't great. Spin up a sandboxed container and you're paying a full second of cold start overhead plus the complexity of another service. Let the LLM loose on your actual machine and... well, you'd better be watching. On this episode, I sit down with Samuel Colvin, creator of Pydantic, now at 10 billion downloads, to explore Monty, a Python interpreter written from scratch in Rust, purpose-built to run LLM-generated code. It starts in microseconds, is completely sandboxed by design, and can even serialize its entire state to a database and resume later. We dig into why this deliberately limited interpreter might be exactly what the AI agent era needs. Episode sponsors Talk Python Courses Python in Production Links from the show Guest Samuel Colvin: github.com CPython: github.com IronPython: ironpython.net Jython: www.jython.org Pyodide: pyodide.org monty: github.com Pydantic AI: pydantic.dev Python AI conference: pyai.events bashkit: github.com just-bash: github.com Narwhals: narwhals-dev.github.io Polars: pola.rs Strands Agents: aws.amazon.com Subscribe Running Pydantic’s Monty Rust sandboxed Python subset in WebAssembly: simonwillison.net Rust Python: github.com Valgrind: valgrind.org Cod Speed: codspeed.io Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #541 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/541 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

Samuel Colvin

Founder & CEO, Pydantic

Pydantic

Monorepos -- you've heard the talks, you've read the blog posts, maybe you've seen a few tantalizing glimpses into how Google or Meta organize their massive codebases. But it's often in the abstract and behind closed doors. What if you could crack open a real, production monorepo, one with over a million lines of Python and over 100 of sub-packages, and actually see how it's built, step by step, using modern tools and standards? That's exactly what Apache Airflow gives us. On this episode, I sit down with Jarek Potiuk and Amogh Desai, two of Airflow's top contributors, to go inside one of the largest open-source Python monorepos in the world and learn how they manage it with uv, pyproject.toml, and the latest packaging standards, so you can apply those same patterns to your own projects. Episode sponsors Agentic AI Course Python in Production Talk Python Courses Links from the show Guests Amogh Desai: github.com Jarek's GitHub: github.com definition of a monorepo: monorepo.tools airflow: airflow.apache.org Activity: github.com OpenAI: airflowsummit.org Part 1. Pains of big modular Python projects: medium.com Part 2. Modern Python packaging standards and tools for monorepos: medium.com Part 3. Monorepo on steroids - modular prek hooks: medium.com Part 4. Shared “static” libraries in Airflow monorepo: medium.com PEP-440: peps.python.org PEP-517: peps.python.org PEP-518: peps.python.org PEP-566: peps.python.org PEP-561: peps.python.org PEP-660: peps.python.org PEP-621: peps.python.org PEP-685: peps.python.org PEP-723: peps.python.org PEP-735: peps.python.org uv: docs.astral.sh uv workspaces: blobs.talkpython.fm prek.j178.dev: prek.j178.dev your presentation at FOSDEM26: fosdem.org Tallyman: github.com Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #540 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/540 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

Jarek Potiuk

Contributor

Apache Airflow

Amogh Desai

Contributor

Apache Airflow

You're adding type hints to your Python code, your editor is happy, autocomplete is working great. But then you switch tools and suddenly there are red squiggles everywhere. Who decides what a float annotation actually means? Or whether passing None where an int is expected should be an error? It turns out there's a five-person council dedicated to exactly these questions -- and two brand-new Rust-based type checkers are raising the bar. On this episode, I sit down with three members of the Python Typing Council -- Jelle Zijlstra, Rebecca Chen, and Carl Meyer -- to learn how the type system is governed, where the spec and the type checkers agree and disagree, and get the council's official advice on how much typing is just enough. Episode sponsors Sentry Error Monitoring, Code talkpython26 Agentic AI Course Talk Python Courses Links from the show Guests Carl Meyer: github.com Jelle Zijlstra: jellezijlstra.github.io Rebecca Chen: github.com Typing Council: github.com typing.python.org: typing.python.org details here: github.com ty: docs.astral.sh pyrefly: pyrefly.org conformance test suite project: github.com typeshed: github.com Stub files: mypy.readthedocs.io Pydantic: pydantic.dev Beartype: github.com TOAD AI: github.com PEP 747 – Annotating Type Forms: peps.python.org PEP 724 – Stricter Type Guards: peps.python.org Python Typing Repo (PRs and Issues): github.com Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #539 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/539 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

Jelle Zijlstra

Python Typing Council Member

Python Software Foundation

Rebecca Chen

Python Typing Council Member

Python Software Foundation

Carl Meyer

Python Typing Council Member

Python Software Foundation

Digital humanities sounds niche, until you realize it can mean a searchable archive of U.S. amendment proposals, Irish folklore, or pigment science in ancient art. Today I’m talking with David Flood from Harvard’s DARTH team about an unglamorous problem: What happens when the grant ends but the website can’t. His answer, static sites, client-side search, and sneaky Python. Let’s dive in. Episode sponsors Sentry Error Monitoring, Code talkpython26 Command Book Talk Python Courses Links from the show Guest David Flood: davidaflood.com DARTH: digitalhumanities.fas.harvard.edu Amendments Project: digitalhumanities.fas.harvard.edu Fionn Folklore Database: fionnfolklore.org Mapping Color in History: iiif.harvard.edu Apatosaurus: apatosaurus.io Criticus: github.com github.com/palewire/django-bakery: github.com sigsim.acm.org/conf/pads/2026/blog/artifact-evaluation: sigsim.acm.org Hugo: gohugo.io Water Stories: waterstories.fas.harvard.edu Tsumeb Mine Notebook: tmn.fas.harvard.edu Dharma and Punya: dharmapunya2019.org Pagefind library: pagefind.app django_webassembly: github.com Astro Static Site Generator: astro.build PageFind Python Lib: pypi.org Frozen-Flask: frozen-flask.readthedocs.io Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #538 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/538 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

David Flood

Developer

Harvard University

You love building web apps with Python, and HTMX got you excited about the hypermedia approach -- let the server drive the HTML, skip the JavaScript build step, keep things simple. But then you hit that last 10%: You need Alpine.js for interactivity, your state gets out of sync, and suddenly you're juggling two unrelated libraries that weren't designed to work together. What if there was a single 11-kilobyte framework that gave you everything HTMX and Alpine do, and more, with real-time updates, multiplayer collaboration out of the box, and performance so fast you're actually bottlenecked by the monitor's refresh rate? That's Datastar. On this episode, I sit down with its creator Delaney Gillilan, core maintainer Ben Croker, and Datastar convert Chris May to explore how this backend-driven, server-sent-events-first framework is changing the way full-stack developers think about the modern web. Episode sponsors Sentry Error Monitoring, Code talkpython26 Command Book Talk Python Courses Links from the show Guests Delaney Gillilan: linkedin.com Ben Croker: x.com Chris May: everydaysuperpowers.dev Datastar: data-star.dev HTMX: htmx.org AlpineJS: alpinejs.dev Core Attribute Tour: data-star.dev data-star.dev/examples: data-star.dev github.com/starfederation/datastar-python: github.com VSCode: marketplace.visualstudio.com OpenVSX: open-vsx.org PyCharm/Intellij plugin: plugins.jetbrains.com data-star.dev/datastar_pro: data-star.dev gg: discord.gg HTML-ivating your Django web app's experience with HTMX, AlpineJS, and streaming HTML - Chris May: www.youtube.com Senior Engineer tries Vibe Coding: www.youtube.com 1 Billion Checkboxes: checkboxes.andersmurphy.com Game of life example: example.andersmurphy.com Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #537 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/537 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

Delaney Gillilan

Creator

Datastar

You've built your FastAPI app, it's running great locally, and now you want to share it with the world. But then reality hits -- containers, load balancers, HTTPS certificates, cloud consoles with 200 options. What if deploying was just one command? That's exactly what Sebastian Ramirez and the FastAPI Cloud team are building. On this episode, I sit down with Sebastian, Patrick Arminio, Savannah Ostrowski, and Jonathan Ehwald to go inside FastAPI Cloud, explore what it means to build a "Pythonic" cloud, and dig into how this commercial venture is actually making FastAPI the open-source project stronger than ever. Episode sponsors Command Book Python in Production Talk Python Courses Links from the show Guests Sebastián Ramírez: github.com Savannah Ostrowski: github.com Patrick Arminio: github.com Jonathan Ehwald: github.com FastAPI labs: fastapilabs.com quickstart: fastapicloud.com an episode on diskcache: talkpython.fm Fastar: github.com FastAPI: The Documentary: www.youtube.com Tailwind CSS Situation: adams-morning-walk.transistor.fm FastAPI Job Meme: fastapi.meme Migrate an Existing Project: fastapicloud.com Join the waitlist: fastapicloud.com Talk Python CLI Talk Python CLI Announcement: talkpython.fm Talk Python CLI GitHub: github.com Command Book Download Command Book: commandbookapp.com Announcement post: mkennedy.codes Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #536 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/536 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

Sebastian Ramirez

Creator of FastAPI

FastAPITiangolo

Patrick Arminio

Engineer

FastAPI

Savannah Ostrowski

Engineer

FastAPIMicrosoft

Jonathan Ehwald

Engineer

FastAPI

Building on the web is like working with the perfect clay. It’s malleable and can become almost anything. But too often, frameworks try to hide the web’s best parts away from us. Today, we’re looking at PyView, a project that brings the real-time power of Phoenix LiveView directly into the Python world. I'm joined by Larry Ogrodnek to dive into PyView. Episode sponsors Talk Python Courses Python in Production Links from the show Guest Larry Ogrodnek: hachyderm.io pyview.rocks: pyview.rocks Phoenix LiveView: github.com this section: pyview.rocks Core Concepts: pyview.rocks Socket and Context: pyview.rocks Event Handling: pyview.rocks LiveComponents: pyview.rocks Routing: pyview.rocks Templating: pyview.rocks HTML Templates: pyview.rocks T-String Templates: pyview.rocks File Uploads: pyview.rocks Streams: pyview.rocks Sessions & Authentication: pyview.rocks Single-File Apps: pyview.rocks starlette: starlette.dev wsproto: github.com apscheduler: github.com t-dom project: github.com Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #535 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/535 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

Larry Ogrodnek

Creator

PyView

Your cloud SSD is sitting there, bored, and it would like a job. Today we’re putting it to work with DiskCache, a simple, practical cache built on SQLite that can speed things up without spinning up Redis or extra services. Once you start to see what it can do, a universe of possibilities opens up. We're joined by Vincent Warmerdam to dive into DiskCache. Episode sponsors Talk Python Courses Python in Production Links from the show diskcache docs: grantjenks.com LLM Building Blocks for Python course: training.talkpython.fm JSONDisk: grantjenks.com Git Code Archaeology Charts: koaning.github.io Talk Python Cache Admin UI: blobs.talkpython.fm Litestream SQLite streaming: litestream.io Plash hosting: pla.sh Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #534 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/534 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

Vincent Warmerdam

Developer

koaning.ioExplosion

Today on Talk Python, the creators behind FastAPI, Flask, Django, Quart, and Litestar get practical about running apps based on their framework in production. Deployment patterns, async gotchas, servers, scaling, and the stuff you only learn at 2 a.m. when the pager goes off. For Django, we have Carlton Gibson and Jeff Triplet. For Flask, we have David Lord and Phil Jones, and on team Litestar we have Janek Nouvertné and Cody Fincher, and finally Sebastián Ramírez from FastAPI is here. Let’s jump in. Episode sponsors Talk Python Courses Python in Production Links from the show Guests David Lord Janek Nouvertné Cody Fincher Philip Jones Jeff Triplett Carlton Gibson Carlton Gibson - Django: github.com Sebastian Ramirez - FastAPI: github.com David Lord - Flask: davidism.com Phil Jones - Flask and Quartz(async): pgjones.dev Yanik Nouvertne - LiteStar: github.com Cody Fincher - LiteStar: github.com Jeff Triplett - Django: jefftriplett.com Django: www.djangoproject.com Flask: flask.palletsprojects.com Quart: quart.palletsprojects.com Litestar: litestar.dev FastAPI: fastapi.tiangolo.com Coolify: coolify.io ASGI: asgi.readthedocs.io WSGI (PEP 3333): peps.python.org Granian: github.com Hypercorn: github.com uvicorn: uvicorn.dev Gunicorn: gunicorn.org Hypercorn: hypercorn.readthedocs.io Daphne: github.com Nginx: nginx.org Docker: www.docker.com Kubernetes: kubernetes.io PostgreSQL: www.postgresql.org SQLite: www.sqlite.org Celery: docs.celeryq.dev SQLAlchemy: www.sqlalchemy.org Django REST framework: www.django-rest-framework.org Jinja: jinja.palletsprojects.com Click: click.palletsprojects.com HTMX: htmx.org Server-Sent Events (SSE): developer.mozilla.org WebSockets (RFC 6455): www.rfc-editor.org HTTP/2 (RFC 9113): www.rfc-editor.org HTTP/3 (RFC 9114): www.rfc-editor.org uv: docs.astral.sh Amazon Web Services (AWS): aws.amazon.com Microsoft Azure: azure.microsoft.com Google Cloud Run: cloud.google.com Amazon ECS: aws.amazon.com AlloyDB for PostgreSQL: cloud.google.com Fly.io: fly.io Render: render.com Cloudflare: www.cloudflare.com Fastly: www.fastly.com Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #533 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/533 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

Carlton Gibson

Django Fellow

Django Software Foundation

Jeff Triplett

Developer

Django Software Foundation

David Lord

Maintainer

Pallets

Phil Jones

Creator of Quart

Pallets

Janek Nouvertné

Maintainer

Litestar

Cody Fincher

Maintainer

Litestar

Sebastian Ramirez

Creator of FastAPI

FastAPITiangolo

Python in 2025 is in a delightfully refreshing place: the GIL's days are numbered, packaging is getting sharper tools, and the type checkers are multiplying like gremlins snacking after midnight. On this episode, we have an amazing panel to give us a range of perspectives on what matter in 2025 in Python. We have Barry Warsaw, Brett Cannon, Gregory Kapfhammer, Jodie Burchell, Reuven Lerner, and Thomas Wouters on to give us their thoughts. Episode sponsors Seer: AI Debugging, Code talkpython26 Talk Python Courses Links from the show Python Software Foundation (PSF): www.python.org PEP 810: Explicit lazy imports: peps.python.org PEP 779: Free-threaded Python is officially supported: peps.python.org PEP 723: Inline script metadata: peps.python.org PyCharm: www.jetbrains.com JetBrains: www.jetbrains.com Visual Studio Code: code.visualstudio.com pandas: pandas.pydata.org PydanticAI: ai.pydantic.dev OpenAI API docs: platform.openai.com uv: docs.astral.sh Hatch: github.com PDM: pdm-project.org Poetry: python-poetry.org Project Jupyter: jupyter.org JupyterLite: jupyterlite.readthedocs.io PEP 690: Lazy Imports: peps.python.org PyTorch: pytorch.org Python concurrent.futures: docs.python.org Python Package Index (PyPI): pypi.org EuroPython: tickets.europython.eu TensorFlow: www.tensorflow.org Keras: keras.io PyCon US: us.pycon.org NumFOCUS: numfocus.org Python discussion forum (discuss.python.org): discuss.python.org Language Server Protocol: microsoft.github.io mypy: mypy-lang.org Pyright: github.com Pylance: marketplace.visualstudio.com Pyrefly: github.com ty: github.com Zuban: docs.zubanls.com Jedi: jedi.readthedocs.io GitHub: github.com PyOhio: www.pyohio.org Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #532 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/532 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

Barry Warsaw

Python Core Developer

Python Software Foundation

Brett Cannon

Software Engineer

Python Software FoundationMicrosoftPython

Gregory Kapfhammer

Professor

Allegheny College

Jodie Burchell

Developer Advocate

JetBrains

Reuven Lerner

Python Trainer

Lerner Consulting

Thomas Wouters

Python Core Developer

Python Software Foundation

Have you ever thought about getting your small product into production, but are worried about the cost of the big cloud providers? Or maybe you think your current cloud service is over-architected and costing you too much? Well, in this episode, we interview Michael Kennedy, author of "Talk Python in Production," a new book that guides you through deploying web apps at scale with right-sized engineering. Episode sponsors Seer: AI Debugging, Code talkpython26 Agntcy Talk Python Courses Links from the show Christopher Trudeau - guest host: www.linkedin.com Michael's personal site: mkennedy.codes Talk Python in Production Book: talkpython.fm glances: github.com btop: github.com Uptimekuma: uptimekuma.org Coolify: coolify.io Talk Python Blog: talkpython.fm Hetzner (€20 credit with link): hetzner.cloud OpalStack: www.opalstack.com Bunny.net CDN: bunny.net Galleries from the book: github.com Pandoc: pandoc.org Docker: www.docker.com Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #531 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/531 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

Michael Kennedy

Author

Talk Python

For years, building interactive widgets in Python notebooks meant wrestling with toolchains, platform quirks, and a mountain of JavaScript machinery. Most developers took one look and backed away slowly. Trevor Manz decided that barrier did not need to exist. His idea was simple: give Python users just enough JavaScript to unlock the web’s interactivity, without dragging along the rest of the web ecosystem. That idea became anywidget, and it is quickly becoming the quiet connective tissue of modern interactive computing. Today we dig into how it works, why it has taken off, and how it might change the way we explore data. Episode sponsors Seer: AI Debugging, Code talkpython26 PyCharm, code STRONGER PYTHON Talk Python Courses Links from the show Trevor on GitHub: github.com anywidget GitHub: github.com Trevor's SciPy 2024 Talk: www.youtube.com Marimo GitHub: github.com Myst (Markdown docs): mystmd.org Altair: altair-viz.github.io DuckDB: duckdb.org Mosaic: uwdata.github.io ipywidgets: ipywidgets.readthedocs.io Tension between Web and Data Sci Graphic: blobs.talkpython.fm Quak: github.com Walk through building a widget: anywidget.dev Widget Gallery: anywidget.dev Video: How do I anywidget?: www.youtube.com PyCharm + PSF Fundraiser: pycharm-psf-2025 code STRONGER PYTHON Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #530 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/530 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

Trevor Manz

Creator

anywidgetMarimo

See the full show notes for this episode on the website at talkpython.fm/529

See the full show notes for this episode on the website at talkpython.fm/528