Yan Liberman

Pump raised $600 million in 12 minutes. Then the token crashed… and sentiment with it. In this episode, Delphi’s Yan Liberman, Jason Pagoulatos, and Simon Smockey unpack what really happened, from the lack of investor lockups to the underwhelming post-ICO communication, and what Pump must do now to win back the market. We also get into whether the “everything app” strategy still makes sense, what decentralization means after this cycle, and what tokens can learn from equity markets. Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Xapo Bank Focal by FalconX Guests: Simon Smockey, Researcher at Delphi Digital Yan Liberman, Co-Founder of Delphi Digital and Managing Partner of Delphi Ventures Jason Pagoulatos, Head of Markets at Delphi Previous coverage on the ICO:  Pump.fun Just Raised $600M. What Does This Mean for DeFi, Solana & Social Media? Pump.fun’s $1 Billion ICO Has Caused Controversy. Can It Succeed? Unchained: Pump.fun Becomes Third Largest ICO, Raises $600M in 12 Minutes  PUMP Traders Make Big Options Bets on the Token Surging Past Its ICO Price Pump.fun Draws Backlash After Confirming PUMP ICO TG Podcast: Alon: Raising $1B, $PUMP Token, Airdrop, and More Timestamps: 🎬 0:00 Intro 💥 2:53 How Pump’s months-long hype set the stage, and why it may have backfired 🔓 11:07 Whether the lack of investor lockups hurt confidence in the token 😬 17:13 Why Jason found Alon’s post-ICO interview with Threadguy underwhelming 📉 22:52 Why Yan still sees strong risk-reward in PUMP despite the crash 🔥 24:29 What Pumpfun can do now to reignite interest and rebuild momentum 💸 34:19 Whether buybacks or business reinvestment is the better path forward 📱 36:37 How realistic the “everything app” vision is, and whether M&As can save it 🌍 47:16 What strategies could finally bring normies onchain 🧵 53:22 Whether the PUMP launch proves that decentralization is dead Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yan Liberman

Partner

Delphi Digital

Jason Pagoulatos

Analyst

Delphi Digital

Simon Smockey

Partner

Delphi Digital

In this episode, Jason is joined by the founders of Delphi Digital to talk about their journey from a small research firm to an investing, research, and consulting juggernaut. They unpack their unique "umbrella thinking" approach to decision-making, the challenges of managing a rapidly growing organization and portfolio, and their insights into the current state of the crypto market They also explore emerging trends in crypto including AI, gaming and potential impact on political changes in the industry. Finally, they share their bullish views on the future of crypto and the infrastructure needed to support its growth. Thanks for tuning in! - - Start your day with crypto news, analysis and data from Katherine Ross and David Canellis. Subscribe to the Empire newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/empire?utm_source=podcasts Follow Jose: https://x.com/zemariamacedo Follow Yan: https://x.com/yanliberman Follow Anil: https://x.com/anildelphi Follow Delphi Digital: https://x.com/Delphi_Digital Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Santiago: https://twitter.com/santiagoroel Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Subscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2j Subscribe on Apple: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7 Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Anoma is the universal intent machine, introducing a new era of applications where you define the outcomes you want. Anoma’s intent-centric architecture provides a universal operating system for building intent-centric apps compatible with any blockchain. Anoma vastly improves blockchain UX, enables novel applications, and promotes a more human-centric future for decentralized technology. Follow Anoma at x.com/anoma and signup for the newsletter at anoma.net - - re.al is the permissionless L2 for tokenized RWAs built on Arbitrum Orbit and the first L2 to return chain and protocol fees back to users, in reETH, ensuring they benefit from ecosystem growth. re.al has just launched a fully-transparent rewards (points) program returning 10% of $RWA supply to early users. Not investment advice or product solicitation and not aimed at US persons. https://re.al/rewards/airdrop/O4UNU - - Renaud Partners has built the most elite network of native crypto marketers globally. They create custom, expert teams to support founders with transformative strategy work. If you’re a founder or a VC looking for support for your teams, head on over to RenaudPartners.com or give their co-founder Geoff a follow on x at https://x.com/ReoffGenaud - - Timestamps (00:00) Introduction (01:21) Delphi Origin Story (12:25) Birth of Fat Protocol Thesis (16:08) Pivoting from Research to Investing (20:40) Portfolio Growth (25:08) Decision Making Process (30:10) Operations & Team Structure (35:55) Selling Tokens (40:02) Anoma ad (41:03) Re.al Ad (42:03) Invisible North Ad (43:00) Delphi 10 Year Vision (48:26) Making Money this Cycle (54:15) Where are We in the Cycle? (01:01:35) Hottest Narratives this Cycle - - Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

Jose Maria Macedo

Co-Founder

Delphi Digital

Yan Liberman

Partner

Delphi Digital

Anil Lulla

Co-Founder

Delphi Digital

Two tokenomics experts, Yan Liberman, co-founder of Delphi Digital, and Viktor Bunin, protocol specialist at Coinbase Cloud, discuss their experiences building tokens, their thoughts on the recent ENS/PSP airdrops, and what “fair” token distribution looks like. Show highlights: the definition of tokenomics what factors (such as utility, fairness, liquidity, security, etc.) token designers are incentivizing for what Yan learned from helping design Astroport tokenomics what Vikor learned from helping design Threshold, the token that was built to facilitate the merge of NuCypher and Keep how the EIP 1559 burn has changed Ethereum’s tokenomics how EIP 1559 has improved investor outlook for Ethereum why Viktor is worried about people actually using Ethereum going forward what Viktor and Yan think about how the ENS airdrop farming issue was handled what Viktor and Yan think about ParaSwap’s PSP airdrop and why Viktor thinks ParaSwap made a “mistake” how Viktor and Yan would go about airdropping a token to good actors instead of bad actors how improvements in on-chain identity could help future airdrops  fair launch tokens versus VC-backed tokens what the definition of fair is in terms of tokenomics why Viktor thinks a token’s distribution is more important than a token’s launch what could be the optimal way to distribute liquidity mining rewards how community affects tokenomics how to incentivize NFT-based tokens, like the forthcoming Bored Ape Yacht Club token, for the right goals      Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com: https://crypto.onelink.me/J9Lg/unconfirmedcardearnfeb2021      Nodle: https://bit.ly/3AXGydJ    Yan Liberman -- co founder at Delphi Digital LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yanliberman Twitter: https://twitter.com/yanliberman    Viktor Bunin -- protocol specialist at Coinbase (Bison Trails) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/viktorbunin  Twitter: https://twitter.com/ViktorBunin    Tokenomics 101 Primers: The Tie: https://research.thetie.io/token-economics/  Smith and Crown: https://smithandcrown.com/research/issues-of-fairness-in-token-distribution/  A Timeline of Token Distributions: https://blog.coinlist.co/the-evolution-of-token-distribution-models/    Recent Airdrops + Airdrop farming PSP:   https://medium.com/paraswap/introducing-the-psp-token-to-make-paraswap-even-more-efficient-and-decentralized-c4730e50be72  ENS: https://twitter.com/ensdomains/status/1457862602239926274 https://twitter.com/nicksdjohnson/status/1456424366850281488    Airdrop Farming Potential airdrops coming up:  https://www.coindesk.com/business/2021/11/09/missed-the-ens-airdrop-here-are-the-crypto-projects-rumored-to-decentralize-next/  https://newsletter.banklesshq.com/p/the-ultimate-guide-to-airdrops https://www.trustnodes.com/2021/11/14/ethereans-sneak-to-zksync-for-airdrop-farming  PSP drop w/ heavy requirements ​https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2021/11/15/dex-aggregator-paraswap-launches-psp-token-on-heels-of-ens-airdrop-excitement/   ENS Blacklist https://twitter.com/nicksdjohnson/status/1456048492141441027    Topics Mentioned Astroport tokenomics https://astroport.medium.com/hello-astro-announcing-the-astroport-governance-token-drops-a07a1bf3ed94 NuCypher + Keep merge https://decrypt.co/73800/forget-hard-fork-what-happens-after-kee-nucypher-hard-merge SushiSwap vampire attack https://finematics.com/vampire-attack-sushiswap-explained/  Tokemak tokenomics https://medium.com/the-capital/defi-2-0-is-it-the-next-wave-of-cryptocurrency-4499e838ea44    Miscellaneous What is liquidity mining? https://medium.com/coinmonks/what-is-liquidity-mining-and-how-does-it-work-d0ab491e607  The Internet of Money (recommended by Viktor) https://theinternetofmoney.info/    Other Fun Topics  How Token Governance Mechanisms can be implemented https://outlierventures.io/research/what-is-the-secret-to-building-valuable-tokens-part-2/ Crypto Gaming economics https://outlierventures.io/research/p2e-2-0-a-new-economic-model-for-gaming-based-on-crypto-tokens/  Does farming represent progress in token distribution? https://smithandcrown.com/research/adaptations-in-token-distribution-mechanisms-does-farming-represent-progress/  Should treasuries hold native tokens? https://twitter.com/AntonioMJuliano/status/1460278949867442182  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yan Liberman

Partner

Delphi Digital

Viktor Bunin

Protocol Specialist

Coinbase CloudCoinbase