Nathan hosts Riley Goodside, the world's first staff prompt engineer at Scale AI, to discuss the evolution of prompt engineering. In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, we explore how language models have progressed, making prompt engineering more like programming than poetry. Discover insights on enterprise AI applications, best practices for pushing LLMs to their limits, and the future of AI automation.
Apply to join over 400 founders and execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj
RECOMMENDED PODCAST:
🎙️ Second Opinion - A new podcast for health-tech insiders from Christina Farr of the Second Opinion newsletter. Join Christina Farr, Luba Greenwood, and Ash Zenooz every week as they challenge industry experts with tough questions about the best bets in health-tech.
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1759267211
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A8NwQE976s32zdBbZw6bv
-
🎙️ History 102 with WhatifAltHist
Every week, creator of WhatifAltHist Rudyard Lynch and Erik Torenberg cover a major topic in history in depth -- in under an hour. This season will cover classical Greece, early America, the Vikings, medieval Islam, ancient China, the fall of the Roman Empire, and more.
Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/36Kqo3BMMUBGTDo1IEYihm
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/history-102-with-whatifalthists-rudyard-lynch-and/id1730633913
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@History102-qg5oj
SPONSORS:
Building an enterprise-ready SaaS app? WorkOS has got you covered with easy-to-integrate APIs for SAML, SCIM, and more. Join top startups like Vercel, Perplexity, Jasper & Webflow in powering your app with WorkOS. Enjoy a free tier for up to 1M users! Start now at https://bit.ly/WorkOS-TCR
Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. OCI has four to eight times the bandwidth of other clouds; offers one consistent price, and nobody does data better than Oracle. If you want to do more and spend less, take a free test drive of OCI at https://oracle.com/cognitive
The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://bit.ly/BraveTCR
Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off https://www.omneky.com/
Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.
CHAPTERS:
(00:00:00) About the Show
(00:00:23) Sponsor: WorkOS
(00:01:24) Introduction
(00:06:23) LLMs using LLMs
(00:09:38) Tool Use
(00:11:06) How to manage the breadth of the task
(00:14:51) Prompt engineering
(00:26:49) Multitasking fine-tuning
(00:31:49) Sponsors: Omneky | Squad
(00:33:36) Best models for fine-tuning
(00:36:41) The Platonic Representation Hypothesis
(00:42:02) How close are we to AGI?
(00:45:44) How do you know if youre being too ambitious?
(00:51:18) Best practices for generating good output
(00:54:33) Backfills and synthetic transformations
(00:56:59) Prompt engineering
(01:05:54) AGI, modalities, and the limits of training
(01:20:08) Solving the ARC Challenge
(01:23:20) How to Demonstrate Prompt Engineering Skills
(01:25:27) Outro
Today we’re joined by Riley Goodside, staff prompt engineer at Scale AI. In our conversation with Riley, we explore LLM capabilities and limitations, prompt engineering, and the mental models required to apply advanced prompting techniques. We dive deep into understanding LLM behavior, discussing the mechanism of autoregressive inference, comparing k-shot and zero-shot prompting, and dissecting the impact of RLHF. We also discuss the idea that prompting is a scaffolding structure that leverages the model context, resulting in achieving the desired model behavior and response rather than focusing solely on writing ability.
The complete show notes for this episode can be found at twimlai.com/go/652.
ChatGPT can now hear, see and speak — and that’s just the start of the deluge of A.I. news this week. Kevin and Casey unpack the lightning-speed updates.
Then, Meta’s next-generation headset, Quest 3, is here. Is there still hope for the metaverse?
And: An interview with a prompt engineer. Yes, that’s a real job.
Today’s Guest:
Riley Goodside is a prompt engineer at Scale A.I., a San Francisco start-up.
Additional Reading:
Kevin Roose on ChatGPT, which can now see, hear and speak.
Spotify announced a new A.I.-powered voice-translation feature.
Meta announced the release of the Quest 3 headset.
Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.
Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Full Transcript and show notes: https://www.latent.space/p/function-agents?sd=pf
Timestamps:
[00:00:00] Intro
[00:01:47] Recapping June 2023 Updates
[00:06:24] Known Issues with Long Context
[00:08:00] New Functions API
[00:10:45] Riley Goodside
[00:12:28] Simon Willison
[00:14:30] Eric Elliott
[00:16:05] Functions API and Agents
[00:18:25] Functions API vs Google Vertex JSON
[00:21:32] From English back to Code
[00:26:14] Embedding Price Drop and Pinecone Perspective
[00:30:39] Xenova and Huggingface Perspective
[00:34:23] Function Selection
[00:39:58] Designing Code Agents with Function API
[00:42:16] Models as Routers
[00:46:48] Prompt Engineering replaced by Finetuning
[00:52:15] The 2 Code x LLM Paradigms
[00:56:30] Smol Models for the future
[00:58:54] The Evolution of the GPT API
[01:03:27] Functions API Security vs Prompt Injection
[01:16:18] GPT Model Upgrades
[01:17:36] JSONformer
[01:21:03] Closing Comments - What We Want Next
This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.latent.space/subscribe
This is a special preview episode of The Cognitive Revolution: How AI Changes Everything. Hosted by Erik Torenberg and Nathan Labenz, TCR hosts in-depth interviews with the creators, builders and thinkers pushing the bleeding edge of AI. On this episode, they talk with Riley Goodside, the first Staff Prompt Engineer at Scale AI and expert in prompting LLMs and integrating them into AI applications.
Check out The Cognitive Revolution The perfect AI interview complement to The AI Breakdown https://link.chtbl.com/TheCognitiveRevolution Find TCR on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CognitiveRevolutionPodcast
For anyone who discovered this show on Twitter, Riley (@goodside) likely needs no introduction – after all, he spent most of 2022 posting his explorations of OpenAI's text-davinci-002, and quickly became one of the must-follow accounts in AI. Riley Goodside is the world's first Staff Prompt Engineer at Scale AI, and is an expert in prompting large language models and integrating them into AI-powered applications. Few have spent as much time on the language model frontier, so I hope you enjoy this unique conversation with Riley Goodside.
We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.
RECOMMENDED PODCAST:
The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.
https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics
TIMESTAMPS:
(0:00) Preview of the episode
(05:13) Riley's unique background
(11:24) Riley's original narrow moat
(15:07) Sponsors: Omneky
(17:02) LLMs can take on ncreasingly complex instructions
(27:41) Language models can do math
(30:05) Models can learn from context
(37:29) Fine-tune models for tasks
(38:47) Automate instruction following
(44:34) Large language models are alien text prediction
(52:27) Avoid mode collapse by framing
(59:05) Composing AI capabilities like Lego bricks
(1:00:37) Language models solve tasks
(1:05:37) GPT-3 solves real-world tasks
(1:15:03) GPT-4's amazing capabilities
(1:17:03) Multimodal abilities unlock possibilities
(1:25:03) Compare models for best task fit
(1:26:24) Compare models using trial and error
(1:36:15) AI and the future of work
(1:42:29) GPT-4 can provide second opinions
(1:45:06) AI safety discussion
(1:50:20) AI permeates society cautiously
(1:55:26) The AI revolution underway
TWITTER:
@CogRev_Podcast
@Goodside (Riley)
@scale_AI (Scale)
@labenz (Nathan)
SPONSORS:
Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive
Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.
More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com/
%20(cropped).jpg?width=400){kind=small}