Peter Fenton & Victor Lazarte - Purpose and Partnership - [Invest Like the Best, EP.354]
My guests this week are Peter Fenton and Victor Lazarte. Peter and Victor are both General Partners at Benchmark. Of the six equal partners at the storied venture firm, Peter is the longest serving and Victor is the newest, having spent the past decade founding and building Wildlife Studios into one of the biggest independent mobile gaming companies in the world.
Peter has been a board member at Wildlife for the past four years and has a remarkable track record of tech investing over his two decades at Benchmark. In our discussion, we talk about the core motivators behind great entrepreneurs, Benchmark's unique operating philosophy, and what it's like to transition from builder to investor. Please enjoy this conversation with Peter Fenton and Victor Lazarte.
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Show Notes
(00:04:10) - (First question) - Victor’s early expectations after being at the company for just three months
(00:05:39) - What Victor misses from the operating life
(00:06:59) - Peter’s opinion on what makes Benchmark a fascinating company
(00:15:00) - Peter and Victor’s perspective on the significance of the phrase “life’s work”
(00:24:19) - The influence of market tailwinds on success in investing
(00:29:42) - How to keep founders’ generative drive at peak levels
(00:32:39) - Balancing aggression, desire and generative drive when building and operating a business
(00:34:22) - Victor’s approach to dealing with pleasure seeking as a successful operator
(00:38:29) - Why Benchmark intentionally raises funds at half the suggested amount
(00:43:13) - Lessons learned from navigating challenging scenarios in venture capital
(00:46:27) - What excites Victor as he starts a new venture at Benchmark
(00:48:19) - Why AI is more akin to the internet than crypto
(00:52:41) - The significance of platform-based businesses in the contemporary landscape
(00:57:45) - The impact tech giants exert on new entrants in the industry
(00:61:00) - Victor’s opinion on what makes great games and great gaming businesses
(01:13:44) - Where Peter and Victor feel they have areas to grow
(01:19:48) - Perspectives on human progress
(01:21:14) - The kindest thing that anyone has done for both Peter and Victor
Peter Fenton (Partner, Benchmark) on VC and Founder Mindsets, Inflation, and the Current Market State
Peter Fenton is a renowned venture capitalist and a Partner at Benchmark, a leading venture capital firm based in Silicon Valley. With a remarkable track record in the tech industry, Peter has played a pivotal role in shaping the success of numerous high-profile companies such as Twitter, Yelp, Zendesk, Elastic, Docker, and many others. Peter's ability to spot trends and invest in transformative ideas has established him as one of the most respected venture capitalists in the industry.
In this episode, Peter discusses his early VC aspirations and the path to get where he is now, as well as the successful VC and entrepreneurial mindsets, plus inflation and the current market state.
(0:00) Intro
(1:38) Growing up wanting to be a VC
(16:33) Mentorship
(20:25) Benchmark
(30:56) Entrepreneurial mindset
(40:53) Successful founder characteristic
(45:42) Estimating timelines
(54:41 Everyone gets worse in venture over time
(1:05:22) VC websites
(1:10:52) Inflation
(1:18:29) Robert Sapolsky
Mixed and edited: Justin Hrabovsky
Produced: Rashad Assir
Executive Producer: Josh Machiz
Music: Griff Lawson
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Logan Bartlett is a Software Investor at Redpoint Ventures - a Silicon Valley-based VC with $6B AUM and investments in Snowflake, DraftKings, Twilio, and Netflix. In each episode, Logan goes behind the scenes with world-class entrepreneurs and investors. If you're interested in the real inside baseball of tech, entrepreneurship, and start-up investing, tune in every Friday for new episodes.
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EP 40: Peter Fenton, VC and Founder Mindsets, Current Market State and Rashad’s New Podcast
In the 40th episode Benchmark’s Peter Fenton joins to discuss his early VC aspirations and path to get where he is now, the successful VC and entrepreneurial mindsets, plus inflation and the current market state. Rashad also joins to discuss Rahul Ligma, Twitter layoffs, and his brand new show No Agenda.
(0:00) Intro/Rahul Ligma
(04:56) Rashad’s new podcast “No Agenda”
(9:28) Introducing Peter Fenton
(17:06) Working at Accel
(24:59) Mentorship
(28:50) Benchmark
(39:21) Entrepreneurial mindset
(49:19) Successful founder characteristic
(54:08) Estimating timelines
(1:03:07) Everyone gets worse in venture over time
(1:13:48) VC websites
(1:19:18) Inflation
(1:26:55) Robert Sapolsky
(1:32:06) Outro
Show Notes:
Subscribe to No Agenda: https://open.spotify.com/show/2KHruq3qC0IKm5U9wOIjKZ?si=13bab75351d74c70
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBgv57GHyNgjhl3CBB3XtXp2JylaVKdNs
Rahul Ligma: https://twitter.com/Rezowan_/status/1586047782351441920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1586047782351441920%7Ctwgr%5Ef725476e02dc15cc5f19f20bc8c3527e61e44c4f%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theverge.com%2F2022%2F10%2F28%2F23428775%2Ftwitter-fake-employee-layoff-rahul-ligma-elon-musk
Mixed and edited: Justin Hrabovsky
Produced: Andrew Nadeau and Rashad Assir
Executive Producer: Josh Machiz
Music: Griff Lawson
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A Saturday morning podcast hosted by Logan Bartlett (Partner and Managing Director at Redpoint Ventures) covering the tech news with his friends and other people with industry expertise.
Executive Producer: Rashad Assir
Producer: Leah Clapper
Mixing and editing: Justin Hrabovsky
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Logan Bartlett is a Software Investor at Redpoint Ventures - a Silicon Valley-based VC with $6B AUM and investments in Snowflake, DraftKings, Twilio, and Netflix. In each episode of The Logan Bartlett Show, we sit down with the people behind today’s most important startups and extract the tactics, lessons, and frameworks they’ve learned the hard way. Conversations span hiring to GTM, product, growth, fundraising and everything in between - collectively forming the ultimate playbook to make you a better CEO, investor or board member.
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20VC: Benchmark's Peter Fenton on The Single Question That Defines The Art of Early Stage Venture, Marketing Timing Risk, Why The Oversupply of Capital Is Good & His Biggest Lessons from 12 Years On The New Relic Board
Peter Fenton is a General Partner @ Benchmark, one of the great venture firms of the last 3 decades with a portfolio including the likes of SNAP, Twitter, eBay, New Relic, Stitchfix and many more. As for Peter, he has led deals, sits or has sat on the boards of Elastic, New Relic, Digits, Docker, Optimizely, Yelp and Zuora to name a few. Prior to Benchmark, Peter was a General Partner @ Accel Partners in San Francisco. As a result of his incredible track, Peter has been on the Forbes Midas List more times than I have done podcast episodes!
In Today's Episode with Peter Fenton You Will Learn:
1.) How a round of golf led to Peter Fenton leading the New Relic Series A? What did the deal look like both in check size and valuation? What does Peter think that round would be in today's market?
2.) How does Peter create an environment of safety with entrepreneurs where they feel they can be vulnerable with him? How does Peter approach building relationships of trust in compressed fundraising timelines? In what way has Peter seen relationships go bad? What can been done to mitigate that and optimise the Founder <> VC relationship?
3.) How does Peter assess market timing when making investments today? What does Peter mean when he says, "you have to understand whether you are unlocking consumption"? What does unlocking consumption look like in reality? How does Peter think about positive or negative externalities that could impact the business?
4.) Does Peter agree with Bill Gurley that the biggest challenge today is the "oversupply of capital"? Where does the oversupply of capital become a real challenge? What does Peter advise growth-stage founders do to prevent this from damaging them? How does Peter think about capital efficiency in the companies where he is on the board?
5.) What were Peter's biggest lessons on what it takes to be a great board member from his 12 years at New Relic? How did he see his style of board membership change? On the founder side, how do the very best founders manage and navigate their board? What do most boards misunderstand or mismanage?
Item's Mentioned In Today's Episode with Peter Fenton
Peter's Favourite Book: Nonviolent Communication: A Language of Life
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20VC: Most Downloaded Episode of 2017: Peter Fenton, General Partner @ Benchmark
Peter Fenton is a General Partner @ Benchmark, one of the world's leading VC funds with a portfolio including the likes of Twitter, Uber, Snapchat, eBay, WeWork, Yelp and many more revolutionary companies of the last decade. Peter himself sits or has sat on the board of Twitter, previous guest Cockroach, Optimizely, New Relic and ZenDesk just to name a few. Prior to Benchmark, Peter was a Managing Partner @ Accel. It is clearly not just me that has a man crush on Peter though as he has been named to Forbes Midas List for many consecutive years with the last list placing Peter as No 3 in the world.
In Today's Episode You Will Learn:
1.) How Peter made his way into the world of VC with Accel and came to be a General Partner @ Benchmark?
2.) How does Peter differentiate between the good and the great VCs? How can VCs use hyper-curiosity and hyper-competitiveness to improve their investing ability? Why does Peter not believe that operational experience is a necessity pre-VC?
3.) How does Peter view the importance of valuation in the investment decision making process? How much of a role does it play for him and what is his psychology around valuation, especially with regards to ownership levels?
4.) Why is Peter amused when he hears other investors say they must 'invest in big markets'? What were his big takeaways from watching the investment and hyper-growth journey of Snapchat? How did that influence his view on markets?
5.) Peter has previously said that he is a 'student of great board members'. What are the commonalities among the truly great board members? How do they engage and interact with the entrepreneur? How do they get the most out of their fellow board members?
Items Mentioned In Today's Show:
Peter's Most Recent Investment: Zen.ly
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20VC: Benchmark's Peter Fenton on How To Differentiate Between Good & Great VCs, Why Ownership Is A Bigger Determinant Of Returns Than Valuation & What Makes A Truly Exceptional Board Member
Peter Fenton is a General Partner @ Benchmark, one of the world's leading VC funds with a portfolio including the likes of Twitter, Uber, Snapchat, eBay, WeWork, Yelp and many more revolutionary companies of the last decade. Peter himself sits or has sat on the board of Twitter, previous guest Cockroach, Optimizely, New Relic and ZenDesk just to name a few. Prior to Benchmark, Peter was a Managing Partner @ Accel. It is clearly not just me that has a man crush on Peter though as he has been named to Forbes Midas List for many consecutive years with the last list placing Peter as No 3 in the world.
In Today's Episode You Will Learn:
1.) How Peter made his way into the world of VC with Accel and came to be a General Partner @ Benchmark?
2.) How does Peter differentiate between the good and the great VCs? How can VCs use hyper-curiosity and hyper-competitiveness to improve their investing ability? Why does Peter not believe that operational experience is a necessity pre-VC?
3.) How does Peter view the importance of valuation in the investment decision making process? How much of a role does it play for him and what is his psychology around valuation, especially with regards to ownership levels?
4.) Why is Peter amused when he hears other investors say they must 'invest in big markets'? What were his big takeaways from watching the investment and hyper-growth journey of Snapchat? How did that influence his view on markets?
5.) Peter has previously said that he is a 'student of great board members'. What are the commonalities among the truly great board members? How do they engage and interact with the entrepreneur? How do they get the most out of their fellow board members?
Items Mentioned In Today's Show:
Peter's Most Recent Investment: Zen.ly
As always you can follow Harry, The Twenty Minute VC and Peter on Twitter here!
Likewise, you can follow Harry on Snapchat here for mojito madness and all things 20VC.
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