When Giants Don’t Go Public: Inside the $5 Trillion Private Tech Market
Bloomberg's Odd Lots hosts Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway speak with David George, general partner at a16z and head of the firm's growth fund, about why $5 trillion in tech market cap now sits in the private markets, how that figure has grown 10x in a decade, and what it means for founders, employees, and investors. They also cover SPVs, tender offers, the collapse of legacy software valuations, and why AI companies may be speed-running the path to public markets. This episode originally aired on Bloomberg's Odd Lots podcast.
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A16Z's David George on How Private and Public Markets Fused Into One
This year could be a big one for IPOs. From Anthropic to SpaceX to OpenAI, we could see some gigantic companies hit the public market. But of course, the big story is that big, thriving companies feel less and less pressure to go public. In a different era, private giants like Databricks and Stripe might've IPO'd a long time ago. So what's changed? Why are companies comfortable staying private for so long? On this episode, we speak with David George, a general partner at Andreesen Horowitz, who leads the firm's growth investing team. He discusses how private markets have grown deeper and more liquid, which greatly reduces the need for companies to have public stock at all. We also talk about how he's thinking about the AI disruption trade, and when it makes sense for these private giants to bite the bullet and expose their stock to public investors.
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The State of Markets
a16z Head of Investor Relations Jen Kha speaks with general partner David George about the state of AI and private technology markets. David shares data on why AI companies are growing 2.5x faster than traditional software while spending significantly less on sales and marketing, driven by massive market pull and record-breaking ARR per employee. They discuss the rise of Model Busters, which are companies that grow faster and longer than anyone would have modeled, like the iPhone. They also highlight real-world adoption at Chime and Rocket Mortgage alongside portfolio breakouts like Harvey, Abridge, and ElevenLabs.
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The Inside Story of Growth Investing at a16z
This episode is a special replay of David George’s conversation with Harry Stebbings on 20VC. David is a General Partner on a16z’s growth team, and in this discussion he breaks down how he thinks about breakout growth investing: why great business models are now table stakes, where real edge comes from non-consensus views on TAM, and how to underwrite upside in a world of higher prices and increasing competition.
They also dig into the mechanics behind the scenes: unit economics at growth, “pull vs push” products, winner-take-most market structures, and how David decides when to double or triple down on a company. Along the way, they touch on SPACs, the rise of crossover funds, single-trigger decision making, and how David manages fear, pressure, and performance over the long arc of an investing career.
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Do Revenue and Margins Still Matter in AI?
In this episode, we’re sharing a conversation with David George, General Partner at a16z on the firm’s growth investing team. David has been involved in backing many of the defining companies of this era and is now investing behind a new wave of AI startups.
This discussion goes deep into how the a16z growth practice operates: how the team hires and develops a “Yankees-level” culture, how investment decisions get made without traditional committees, and how they build long-term relationships with founders years before investing.
A major focus is AI. David talks through how the team is investing across the stack and why he believes this period could create some of the largest companies ever built.
He also walks through the models that guide his thinking: why markets often misprice consistent growth, what makes “pull” businesses so durable, why many important markets become winner-take-all, and what he’s learned from studying exceptional founders — especially the “technical terminators” he’s drawn to.
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20VC: a16z's David George on How $BN Funds Can 5×, Do Margins & Revenue Matter in AI & the Most Controversial Bet at a16z
David George is a General Partner at Andreessen Horowitz, where he leads the firm's Growth investing team. His team has backed many of the defining companies of this era, including Databricks, Figma, Stripe, SpaceX, Anduril, and OpenAI, and is now investing behind a new generation of AI startups like Cursor, Harvey, and Abridge.
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03:05 – Why Everyone is Wrong: Mega Funds Does Not Reduce Returns
10:40 – Is Public Market Capital Actually Cheaper Than Private Capital?
18:55 – The Biggest Advantage of Staying Private for Longer
23:30 – The #1 Investing Rule for a16z: Always Invest in the Founder's Strength of Strengths
31:20 – Why Fear of Theoretical Competition Makes Investors Miss Great Companies
35:10 – Does Revenue Matter as Much in a World of AI?
44:10 – Does Kingmaking Still Exist in Venture Capital Today?
49:20 – Do Margins Matter Less Than Ever in an AI-First World?
53:50 – My Biggest Miss: Anthropic and What I Learn From it?
56:30 – Has OpenAI Won Consumer AI? Will Anthropic Win Enterprise?
59:45 – The Most Controversial Decision in Andreessen Horowitz History
1:01:30 – Why Did You Invest $300M into Adam Neumann and Flow?
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]
My guest today is David George. David is a General Partner at Andreessen Horowitz, where he leads the firm’s growth investing business. His team has backed many of the defining companies of this era – including Databricks, Figma, Stripe, SpaceX, Anduril, and OpenAI – and is now investing behind a new generation of AI startups like Cursor, Harvey, and Abridge.
This conversation is a detailed look at how David built and runs the a16z growth practice. He shares how he recruits and builds his team a “Yankees-level” culture, how his team makes investment decisions without traditional committees, and how they work with founders years before investing to win the most competitive deals.
Much of our conversation centers on AI and how his team is investing across the stack, from foundational models to applications. David draws parallels to past platform shifts – from SaaS to mobile – and explains why he believes this period will produce some of the largest companies ever built.
David also outlines the models that guide his approach – why markets often misprice consistent growth, what makes “pull” businesses so powerful, and why most great tech markets end up winner-take-all. David reflects on what he’s learned from studying exceptional founders and why he’s drawn to a particular type, the “technical terminator.”
Please enjoy my conversation with David George.
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Show Notes:
(00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like The Best
(00:04:00) Meet David George
(00:03:04) Understanding the Impact of AI on Consumers and Enterprises
(00:05:56) Monetizing AI: What is AI’s Business Model
(00:11:04) Investing in Robotics and American Dynamism
(00:13:31) Lessons from Investing in Waymo
(00:15:55) Investment Philosophy and Strategy
(00:17:15) Investing in Technical Terminators
(00:20:18) Market Leaders Capture All of the Value Creation
(00:24:56) The Maturation of VC and Competitive Landscape
(00:28:18) What a16z Does to Win Deals
(00:33:06) David’s Daily Routine: Meetings Structure and Blocking Time to Think
(00:36:34) Why David Invests: Curiosity and Competition
(00:40:12) The Unique Culture at Andreessen Horowitz
(00:42:46) The Perfect Conditions for Growth Investing
(00:47:04) Push v. Pull Businesses
(00:49:19) The Three Metrics a16z Uses to Evaluate AI Companies
(00:52:15) Unique Products and Unique Distribution
(00:54:55) Tradeoffs of the a16z Firm Structure
(00:59:04) a16z’s Semi-Algorithmic Approach to Selling
(01:00:54) Three Ways Startups can Beat Incumbents in AI
(01:03:44) The Kindest Thing
20VC: a16z's David George on Leading a16z's Growth Fund Today, The Biggest Misconceptions of Growth Investing, How a16z Think Through Portfolio Construction, Investment Decision-Making and Scenario Planning & How The Entrance of New Players Has Changed Th
David George is a General Partner @ Andreessen Horowitz where he leads their growth investing practice. Since joining in 2019 David has invested in the likes of Clubhouse, Coinbase, Databricks, Figma, Instacart, Robinhood and TripActions just to name a few. David also sits on the board of Current, Greenlight, and Workrise. Prior to a16z, David spent 7 years growth investing at General Atlantic where he invested in the likes of Airbnb, Crowdstrike, Opendoor, Slack and Uber.
In Today's Episode with David George You Will Learn:
1.) How David made his way into the world of growth investing with General Atlantic and how that led to his leading the newest iteration of a16z growth funds? What were David's biggest takeaways from his time with General Atlantic? How did it impact his investing?
2.) Misconceptions of Growth Investing: Why does David believe that great business models are table stakes at growth today? What gives the best the edge? Why does David believe that people over-rotate on TAM? Why is it misleading in many ways? What is the right way to assess TAM at growth today? What does David look for when digging into unit economics? When is the right time to focus on unit economics?
3.) Portfolio Construction and Scenario Planning: How does David think about portfolio construction with the new a16z growth fund? What is the right level of diversification? How does David think about loss ratio today? How does David approach outcome scenario planning? What is an attractive level of upside for David to engage at growth? How has that expectation changed over time?
4.) Valuations and Crossover Funds: How does David assess the valuation landscape today? How does David determine whether he will pay up or sit out on an investment? How has the rise of crossover funds, PE funds and hedge funds entering growth impacted the valuations being paid and the investment process itself? What does David make of these new entrants? What challenges do they bring?
5.) Investment Decision-Making: How do a16z approach decision-making at growth? Who is on the core IC? Why does David strongly believe in the single trigger model in venture when it comes to decision-making? What are the biggest reasons for politics in venture firms today? What can be done to mitigate them?
Item's Mentioned In Today's Episode with David George
David's Favourite Book: Increasing Returns To Scale
David's Most Recent Investment: Loom