Chad Cascarilla – Update on Tail Risk - [Invest Like the Best, EP.165]
My guest today is Chad Cascarilla, here to discuss some of the tail risks in the economy and markets as of March 24th in the midst of the Coronavirus pandemic. Chad was one of the most successful investors during the global financial crisis with a specialty in the banking and finance systems. He now runs Paxos, a trust company which trades and custodies unique products like pax gold, bitcoin, and other tokenized assets including simple pax dollars. I feel it is important to avoid confirmation bias in times like this and not just talk to people are optimistic or long, and while I still believe this is ultimately a positive and optimistic conversation, Chad acknowledges and outlines scenarios that few are talking about yet in the markets.
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Show Notes
(2:04) – (First question) – Today’s market and the porridge scenario
(7:38) – Risks to the market that people aren’t focused on
(10:54) – What lessons from 2008 do we need to heed this time
(13:07) – How does he think about inflation on the other side of this crisis
(16:02) – What does a too cold recovery look like
(20:35) – Benefits of nationalizing the banks vs pumping liquidity
(24:13) – What does the just right recovery look like
(25:24) – Assets that might be ideal to hold in a too hot or too cold scenario
(29:00) – His take on how Bitcoin has performed during this crisis
(31:53) – The US’s inherent strengths compared to the rest of the global economy
(34:50) – Advice for people
(38:59) – Paxos.com
(39:48) – What is he monitoring to see which way things shake out
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Chad Cascarilla – The Future of Blockchain and Financial Services - [Invest Like the Best, EP.145]
My guest today is Chad Cascarilla, the CEO and co-founder of Paxos, which describes itself as a financial technology company “mobilizing assets at the speed of the internet.“ Thanks to more than 20 years of investing and financial services experience, Chad has a unique perspective on integrating blockchain technology with traditional systems. He also has one of my favorite bitcoin origin stories, which we explore. Before Paxos, Charles co-founded institutional asset management complex Cedar Hill Capital Partners in 2005 and its blockchain-focused venture capital subsidiary, Liberty City Ventures (LCV). Our conversation is less about cryptocurrencies and more about the history, current state, and potential future states of our financial system. Please enjoy.
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Show Notes
1:32 - (First Question) – His work in the finance world before crypto’s
5:12 – Experience navigating the subprime mortgage trend and what it taught him about blockchain
9:59 – The levers that matter in the financial services industry today vs when he first started
14:07 – Open vs closed money in financial services
19:16 – How slowdowns are different in the modern era
23:06 – What would lead to a major winding down of global debt
27:09 – What would be his focus as a traditional investor
29:21 – How he first got involved with bitcoin
29:47 – Elliott Wave Newsletter
31:53 – His measured view of Bitcoin and living through the volatility of it
32:03 – Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System
35:57 – Allocation of a portfolio which includes crypto
36:54 – His involvement and feelings on gold
37:56 – The formation of Paxos and the problem it exists to solve
41:34 – How Paxos is impacting the space
44:12 – Advantages of a private blockchain
43:59 – What is Pax Gold and how does it work
48:53 – Bad ways and situations to own gold
52:12 – Using a stable coin
56:00 – Biggest problem they are working on now
57:23 – What should people be paying attention to in the crypto currency space
59:23 – Coindesk Research Archive
59:39 – Has the influx of interest in crypto helped in other spaces
1:02:11 – Other lessons people should learn from his career
1:04:53 – Kindest thing anyone has done for Chad
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