The Creator of Claude Code on The Hottest Piece of Software in the World
2026 has been, in terms of software, the year everyone is talking about Claude Code. Indeed, Anthropic's coding agent incited a market scare — and helped usher in the era of vibe coding — through its promise of streamlining software development for both pros and amateurs. Famously, Claude Code began as a side project of Anthropic led by Boris Cherny, who speaks to us today about the early days of Claude Code and how he and his team approach building an agentic coding tool. We also talk about the business aims of a harness like Claude Code, safety and alignment research, the specific skillset he looks for in engineers now that code writing is a deemphasized skill, and what happens when Claude Code feels more like a co-worker than a tool.
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Claude Code Head Boris Cherny: Insane Growth, Tokenmaxxing, AI Agents' Next Frontier
Boris Cherney is the head of Claude Code at Anthropic. Cherney joins Big Technology to discuss Claude Code’s explosive growth and whether the rise of AI agents is sustainable. Tune in to hear how Claude Code is changing software development, why Anthropic believes agents will spread far beyond coding, and what happens when people start running hundreds or thousands of AI agents in parallel. We also cover token maxing, rate limits, Codex competition, SaaS disruption, self-improving AI, and whether today’s models really understand the consequences of their actions. Hit play for a sharp look at the agent boom from one of the people building it.
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Anthropic's Boris Cherny: Coding's Printing Press Moment
Boris Cherny, creator of Claude Code at Anthropic, joins Sequoia partner Lauren Reeder at AI Ascent 2026 to talk about where coding goes from here. He explains why he hasn't written a line of code in 2026, why he now ships dozens of PRs a day from his phone, and why he believes coding is effectively solved — at least for the code he writes. Also: why loops are the future, why he thinks Claude Code itself may be 100 lines of code a year from now, and why the invention of the printing press is the right analogy for what's about to happen to software.
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Boris Cherny is the creator and Head of Claude Code at Anthropic. He previously spent five years at Meta as a Principal Engineer and is the author of the book Programming TypeScript.
In this episode of Pragmatic Engineer, we went through how Claude Code was built and what it means when engineers no longer write most of the code themselves.
We discuss how Claude Code evolved from a side project into a core internal tool at Anthropic and how Boris uses it day-to-day. We go deep into workflow details, including parallel agents, PR structure, deterministic review patterns, and how the system retrieves context from large codebases. We also get into how Claude Cowork was built.
As coding becomes more accessible, the role of engineers shifts rather than shrinks. We examine what that shift means in practice, which skills become more important, and why the lines between product, engineering, and design are blurring.
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Timestamps
(00:00) Intro
(11:15) Lessons from Meta
(19:46) Joining Anthropic
(23:08) The origins of Claude Code
(32:55) Boris's Claude Code workflow
(36:27) Parallel agents
(40:25) Code reviews
(47:18) Claude Code's architecture
(52:38) Permissions and sandboxing
(55:05) Engineering culture at Anthropic
(1:05:15) Claude Cowork
(1:12:48) Observability and privacy
(1:14:45) Agent swarms
(1:21:16) LLMs and the printing press analogy
(1:30:16) Standout engineer archetypes
(1:32:12) What skills still matter for engineers
(1:35:24) Book recommendations
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The Pragmatic Engineer deepdives relevant for this episode:
• How Claude Code is built
• How Anthropic built Artifacts
• How Codex is built
• Real-world engineering challenges: building Cursor
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How Claude Code Claude Codes
Few AI products have found the kind of product-market fit we’ve seen from Claude Code. On the eve of the product’s first anniversary, Anthropic’s Boris Cherny explains why Claude Code is so powerful, all the work left to do, and why he no longer writes any code himself. After that, The Verge’s Hayden Field joins the show to talk about how we should think about giving our data (and our computers) to AI, even when it seems useful. Finally, The Verge’s Allison Johnson helps David answer a question from the Vergecast Hotline (866-VERGE11) about whether you should go buy a phone, like, right now.
Further reading:
Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft
Claude has been having a moment — can it keep it up?
The AI security nightmare is here and it looks suspiciously like lobster
OpenClaw’s AI ‘skill’ extensions are a security nightmare
Humans are infiltrating the social network for AI bots
Anthropic connects Claude to Microsoft Teams, Outlook, and OneDrive
MCP extension unites Claude with apps like Slack, Canva, and Figma
The RAM shortage is coming for everything you care about
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Head of Claude Code: What happens after coding is solved | Boris Cherny
Boris Cherny is the creator and head of Claude Code at Anthropic. What began as a simple terminal-based prototype just a year ago has transformed the role of software engineering and is increasingly transforming all professional work.
We discuss:
1. How Claude Code grew from a quick hack to 4% of public GitHub commits, with daily active users doubling last month
2. The counterintuitive product principles that drove Claude Code’s success
3. Why Boris believes coding is “solved”
4. The latent demand that shaped Claude Code and Cowork
5. Practical tips for getting the most out of Claude Code and Cowork
6. How underfunding teams and giving them unlimited tokens leads to better AI products
7. Why Boris briefly left Anthropic for Cursor, then returned after just two weeks
8. Three principles Boris shares with every new team member
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In this episode, we cover:
(00:00) Introduction to Boris and Claude Code
(03:45) Why Boris briefly left Anthropic for Cursor (and what brought him back)
(05:35) One year of Claude Code
(08:41) The origin story of Claude Code
(13:29) How fast AI is transforming software development
(15:01) The importance of experimentation in AI innovation
(16:17) Boris’s current coding workflow (100% AI-written)
(17:32) The next frontier
(22:24) The downside of rapid innovation
(24:02) Principles for the Claude Code team
(26:48) Why you should give engineers unlimited tokens
(27:55) Will coding skills still matter in the future?
(32:15) The printing press analogy for AI’s impact
(36:01) Which roles will AI transform next?
(40:41) Tips for succeeding in the AI era
(44:37) Poll: Which roles are enjoying their jobs more with AI
(46:32) The principle of latent demand in product development
(51:53) How Cowork was built in just 10 days
(54:04) The three layers of AI safety at Anthropic
(59:35) Anxiety when AI agents aren’t working
(01:02:25) Boris’s Ukrainian roots
(01:03:21) Advice for building AI products
(01:08:38) Pro tips for using Claude Code effectively
(01:11:16) Thoughts on Codex
(01:12:13) Boris’s post-AGI plans
(01:14:02) Lightning round and final thoughts
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