Aptos Is Betting Big on Transparency After Crypto’s Black Friday, Says CEO - Ep. 927
Last Friday, billions evaporated in a liquidation cascade—and nobody knows exactly what happened because centralized exchanges won't share the data.
In this sponsored episode recorded at Aptos' NYC event, Aptos CEO Avery Ching says if their Decibel perpetual exchange had been live, traders would have seen every order, every spread change, every liquidation in real-time onchain. But while critics argue existing perp DEXs like Hyperliquid are already decentralized, Ching says most still match orders off-chain in black boxes.
Avery explains why Decibel (launching Q1 2026) will be different, how 500 million Indian users are coming to crypto through Reliance Jio's Jiocoin, and why Aptos partnered with World Liberty Financial despite VCs calling it "garbage in your living room."
Guest:
Avery Ching, CEO & Co-Founder, Aptos
Links:
The Composable Global Exchange Engine, by Avery Ching, CEO Aptos
Aptos Post: The fully onchain trading engine built by Decibel Foundation
Previous coverage of Unchained on Black Friday: Crypto’s Black Friday Was Its Largest Liquidation Ever. What the Hell Happened?
Timestamps:
🎬 0:00 Intro
🧭 0:33 How Aptos evolved from Meta’s Libra/Diem project
💡 2:27 Aptos’ vision for global trading engine and everyday crypto use
💾 10:11 What Shelby is and how it supports AI, creators, and enterprise use.
🎥 12:22 Aptos’ new media partnership with NBCUniversal
⚡ 14:46 Avery’s vision for a future when blockchains are widely used
🧩 16:10 What Decibel is and how it aims to bring perps fully onchain
🔎 17:58 What would have changed if Friday’s crash was onchain
💵 24:12 Why Aptos partnered with World Liberty Financial on USD1
🇮🇳 28:46 How the Reliance Jio deal expands Aptos’ reach in India
🌏 30:46 How Aptos is building enterprise adoption across Asia
🏦 32:59 Why Aave launched its first non-EVM deployment on Aptos
🛡️ 36:42 What Aptos learned from recent market turmoil
🔚 42:18 Closing thoughts and Avery’s vision for onchain transparency
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Crypto's Ultimate End State With Avery Ching
Gm! This week Avery Ching joins the show to discuss the Aptos 2.0 roadmap. We deep dive into the current vs end state of crypto, building a high performance L1, the rise of AI, misconceptions about Aptos & more. Enjoy!
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(00:00) Introduction
(00:26) The Future Of Aptos
(07:39) Building Products In Crypto
(11:09) Designing A High Performance L1
(15:10) The Move VM
(18:52) Crypto's Narrative Cycle
(21:43) Building For Institutions vs Crypto Natives
(25:14) Ads (Ledger & Mantle)
(26:53) The Aptos Roadmap
(34:00) The Growth Of Solana
(36:17) Crypto's Ultimate End State
(39:22) The Rise Of AI
(42:03) Misconceptions About Aptos
(44:38) Getting Started On Aptos
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The Ultimate Guide to Aptos (APT) in 2024 with Co-Founder Avery Ching
Avery Ching is the co-founder and CTO of Aptos, which is a Layer 1 blockchain developed by former Facebook employees that launched towards the end of 2022. Aptos uses the Proof of Stake consensus mechanism and aims to achieve high throughput and high security for smart contracts. In our conversation, we cover the fundamentals of Aptos, with Avery highlighting the unique features that set Aptos apart from other Layer 1s, we delve into the technical aspect, focusing on the concept of Dynamic Parallelism, Avery addresses the concerns surrounding the significant venture capital investment in Aptos, we also explore the current and potential future use cases, including the introduction of the Aptos Phone.
Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:45 What makes Aptos different?
10:15 Trilemma
15:07 Aptos fundamentals
17:45 Aptos VS Sui
20:07 Dynamic Parallelism
23:30 VC Chain
25:15 Points and Airdrops
27:05 Aptos Labs + Foundation
28:27 Aptos Use cases
38:17 Verifying Content On Chain
42:30 Aptos Phone
48:33 Future of Blockchain
51:45 Success for Aptos
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Building Modular Move Networks on Ethereum | Nick White, Rushi Manche & Avery Ching
In today's episode of Empire we explore the current state and future of modular blockchains. With special guests Avery Ching, Rushi Mache, and Nick White, the discussion revolves around the pros and cons of Modular and Monolithic Blockchain Architecture, aptness of execution environments, the importance of scalability, and the standardization and consolidation in the blockchain space. The conversation further dives into the performance and potential of Move Virtual Machine, the struggles of the Ethereum Virtual Machine, and the promise of innovative solutions like Celestia to offer more cost-effective and efficient data availability. We hope you Enjoy!
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Timestamps
00:00 Introduction
02:00 The Modular Blockchain Thesis
04:26 MOVE-Based Blockchains
17:33 Is Monolothic Dated?
32:21 DAS London
33:38 Measuring Blockchain Performance & Scalability
43:31 The Future of DEV Activity
52:29 The Killer App
57:07 Will there be a Final Optimal Stack?
01:03:46 DAS London
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The Chopping Block: Why Are We Still Building Layer 1s? - Ep. 487
Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news in digital assets. In this live episode from Consensus 2023, they are joined by Avery Ching, chief architect of Aptos, to discuss the latest SEC enforcement actions, an embarrasing admission by audit firm Certik, and crypto’s impact on the coming election.
Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform.
Show highlights:
everyone's impressions of the conference
why Korea has become a hub for crypto adoption
why there's no benchmarking infrastructure to compare data across blockchains
how Sui decided not to airdrop a token and what the implications for future airdrops are
whether CertiK bears responsibility in the Merlin DEX rugpull
whether the US elections have an effect on how the SEC is playing the case with Coinbase
what impact AI will have on the crypto industry
Hosts
Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly
Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures
Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly
Guest
Avery Ching, cofounder and CTO of Aptos
Disclosures
Links
Unchained:
Coinbase Seeks to Compel SEC Response to Rulemaking Petition
Exploit or Rug Pull? $1.8 Million Drained From zkSync DEX Merlin Despite Audit
SEC Sues Bittrex, Names Dash, Algorand and Other Tokens ‘Crypto Asset Securities’
CoinDesk: Sui Network to Issue Token Following Exchange Sale; Airdrop Hunters Dismayed
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Inside Aptos — the $1.9 billion blockchain born out of the shuttered Libra project
Aptos, a new Layer 1 blockchain originating from the Facebook blockchain initiative Libra (later renamed 'Diem'), recently launched its mainnet.
The architecture behind Aptos was designed to serve millions of people at scale and uses the Move programming language originally intended for Libra.
In this episode of The Scoop, Aptos Co-Founders Mohammed Shaikh and Avery Ching explain why they believe Aptos empowers developers to build faster, more secure applications, and why applications built on Aptos will help onboard millions of users into web3.
According to Ching, experiences built on Aptos will look and feel more like what users are accustomed to on existing Web2 platforms:
“When we think about what's going to onboard people into web3 from web2, one thing that people are used to in web2 is extremely good latency for their products … being able to see those same kinds of experiences in web3 through the Aptos network is something that will be very powerful.”
In addition to user experience, the Move language offers developers a Rust-based alternative to Solana — something some teams who were developing on Solana are currently exploring.
While vulnerabilities in smart contracts have cost DeFi projects billions of dollars, the Aptos co-founders claim the Move language allows for fewer vulnerabilities. As Shaikh explains,
“Making sure that engineers or product managers who are excited about a use case aren't thwarted by having to deal with smart contract complexity and worry about auditability — that’s really meaningful to us.”
Episode 116 of Season 4 of The Scoop was recorded live with The Block's Frank Chaparro and Kevin Peng, and Aptos Co-Founders Avery Ching and Mohammed Shaikh.
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