SaaStr 264: Gainsight COO Allison Pickens on Why Customer Success and Product Management Are The New Sales and Marketing, How To Approach Building and Scaling "Services" As A Revenue Line & How To Build A CS Team On A Tight Budget
Allison Pickens is the COO @ Gainsight, the company that provides everything you need to turn your customers into your biggest growth engine. To date Gainsight have raised over $184m from some of the world's best VCs in the form of Lightspeed, Bessemer, Insight Venture Partners, Battery Ventures and Salesforce Ventures just to name a few. As for Allison, in her 5 years at Gainsight her list of achievements in endless from running all functions that drive value for Gainsight customers, now a 150 person team, to building out the corporate development function to being the right hand to the CEO. Allison is also an Entrepreneur-In-Residence at Bessemer Venture Partners and sits on the board of RainforestQA. Before Gainsight, Allison started her career in NYC with stints at Bain and The Boston Consulting Group.
In Today's Episode We Discuss:
How Allison made her way into the world of SaaS with Gainsight from her start in finance at Bain in New York?
What does a strategic plan really mean to Allison? What is included in it? How should it be structured? In terms of ambition, how does one set ambitious enough plans to be a stretch but not a stretch too far? How does one tie their strategic plan to their financial plan? What is the right way to communicate this throughout the organisation?
Why does Allison believe product marketing and customer success are the new sales and marketing? What have been Allison's biggest lessons on how to effectively measure adoption? Who is accountable to this number? CS or product management? Does Allison believe that marketing needs to be held accountable to a number directly tied to revenue?
How does Allsion respond to the common negative of "services revenue"? What is an acceptable ratio of services to software revenue? How can one approach setting up a services team for scale? Why is having such a great CS team actually bad for product development in the long run? How can one mitigate this?
Allison's 60 Second SaaStr:
What does Allison know now that she wishes she had known at the beginning of her time with Gainsight?
How often should CS check in with their customers? What does that look like?
If on a tight budget, how should one staff a CS team?
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Harry Stebbings
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Allison Picken
a16z Podcast: The Rise of the CCO
There's a new C-level role in town: the CCO, or Chief Customer Officer. This episode (based on a previous event) is all about the rise of this new role, why it's so important -- and what the actual scope and function of the role should be.
a16z's Matt Levy, partner on the exec talent team, discusses with (CCOs all) Allison Pickens of Gainsight; Krista Anderson-Copperman from Okta; and Hatima Shafique from Databricks why it is that the Chief Customer Officer is becoming more prevalent across a number of different kinds of companies; what the strategic value of a CCO is (and how it's actually very different from a VP of Customer Success!); and finally, the career pathing of the Chief Customer Officer.
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SaaStr 040: Gainsight's Allison Pickens on Scaling Your Customer Success Team, Managing Churn and Segmenting Your Customer Base
Allison Pickens carries the customer success torch as the VP of Customer Success & Business Operations at the category leaders, Gainsight. Allison's organization @ Gainsight includes all post-sales functions: CSMs, Support, Onboarding, Services, and Operations. Prior to Gainsight, she started her career in management consulting for Fortune 500 companies while at Boston Consulting Group and later worked in private equity investing at Bain Capital. Allison decided that she couldn't pass up the opportunity to work at Gainsight when Bain Capital led the Series B.
In Today's Episode With Allison You Will Learn:
1.) So let's start with managing customer churn and I think the first and most important thing is assessing what is regrettable vs non-regrettable. How do you approach this?
What is the internal post mortem?
How do you identify why they churned?
Is there a blame game that follows? How do you instill ramifications but not fear?
How do you then look to fix the original problem that caused the churn?
2.) To do the above we need to have a great customer success team so iw ant to talk about the process of building this out and with CS being a new category this is an aspect a lot of founders are addressing at this time. So starting with the obvious?
When do you need a customer success team?
Where in the organization should the team sit?
What's the playbook for rolling it out?
How big does the team need to be? Does this vary on sector or funding availability?
What are the levels of seniority within the team?
What's your budget? How do you account for the costs of your team?
What teams sit within the customer success umbrella?
60 Second Saastr produced by Nick Mehta:
What surprises you most about customer success now vs a year ago?
Importance of fast iterating team?
Fave SaaS material, book, blog, podcast?
What element of the journey have you found most challenging?
Carrying the CS torch? What is it like do you feel the pressure?
3.) Now I want to finish today by discussing the segmentation of your customer base, so at what point in the company's life do you begin segmenting the customers?
Why is it important to segment customers?
How do you decide the best way to segment them?
Should these segments align with the sales team?
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Jason Lemkin
Harry Stebbings
Saastr
Allison Pickens