Partnerships can keep open source sustainable
Ryan welcomes VoidZero’s Evan You and Cloudflare’s Dane Knecht back to the show to discuss Cloudflare’s recent acquisition of VoidZero and what it means for JavaScript development, how partnerships like theirs can help open-source projects stay maintained and sustainably monetized, and how Cloudflare’s distributed systems are helping to improve developer experience in Vite and beyond.
Episode notes:
VoidZero is now officially a part of Cloudflare. You can read more about the recent acquisition here.
Connect with Evan on LinkedIn and X. Check out Evan’s previous episodes on the pod for a deep dive on the evolutions of Vite and Vue.js.
Connect with Dane on LinkedIn and X. Listen to Dane’s previous episode of Leaders of Code to learn how Cloudflare is building a better internet.
Congrats to user Luis Sieira, who won a Stellar Answer badge for answering How to get the difference between two arrays in JavaScript?.
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Vite is like the United Nations of JavaScript
Ryan welcomes back Evan You, the creator of Vite and Vue.js, to discuss the evolution of build tools in web development, the unique features of Vite from its plugins to its hot module capabilities, and the future of Vite, including its integration with Rust. Plus, they touch on Vite’s new documentary and the power of open-source communities.
Episode notes:
Vite is a frontend build tool powering the next generation of web applications.
Check out all of the work Evan is doing at his company VoidZero.
For more on the origins of Vite, watch the newly-released Cult.repo’s documentary.
If you’d rather hear Evan talk about Vue.js, listen to the podcast we published with him earlier this summer.
Today’s shoutout goes to user dbush for winning a Populist badge on their answer to How does printing a union itself and not its member work in C?.
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Vite documentary companion pod (Interview)
Our friends at Cult.Repo launch their epic Vite documentary on October 9th, 2025! To celebrate, Jerod sat down with Evan You to discuss Vite’s adoption story, why he raised money to start VoidZero, how developer documentaries get made, open source sustainability, and more.
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Show Notes:
Vite: the documentary
Vite | next generation frontend tooling
Viteconf 2025
Voidzero
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939: Creator of Vite: Evan You
Scott and Wes sit down with Evan You, creator of Vue, Vite, and VoidZero, to dig into the future of frontend tooling. From the speed of Rolldown to why he chose Rust, they explore the evolution of developer experience, bundlers, and what’s next for the web.
Show Notes
00:00 Welcome to Syntax!
00:31 Who is Evan You?
Vue.js.
Vite.
Void0
01:19 Making the shift from UI to Toolchains.
02:37 How aesthetics contributed to the success of Vue and Vite.
05:26 Adding Rollup plugins to the Dev Server.
07:31 Brought to you by Sentry.io.
07:56 Rollup and Rolldown explained.
09:29 NAPIRS.
10:02 Why Rust and not Go?
SWC, OXC.
12:04 Rolldown’s speed and performance.
OXC Allocator.
15:09 Dealing with massive buildtimes.
17:42 How has the transition been?
20:34 Why do we even need a bundler?
23:25 Vite’s superior developer experience.
26:01 Fullstack Vue?
31:45 Node and Vite’s relationship.
35:41 Wes’ wishlist.
vite-dir.
37:28 Hot takes.
37:37 Would Next be better with Vite?
41:09 Thoughts on React Server Components.
43:40 Thought on Remix 3.
46:22 Tell us about Void0.
51:36 Sick Picks + Shameless Plugs.
Sick Picks
Evan: Laravel Lamborghini Shaped Stress Toys
Shameless Plugs
Evan: Viteconf, Vite, CultRepo.
Hit us up on Socials!
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The future of Vue is you (and You)
Ryan welcomes Evan You, the creator of Vue.js, to explore the origins of Vue.js, the challenges faced during its development, and the project’s growth over a decade. They dive into potential integrations for AI, future developments for Vue.js, and the sustainability of open-source projects.
Episode notes:
Vue.js is a progressive JavaScript framework that’s approachable, performant, and versatile for building web user interfaces.
Check out what Evan and his team are doing to create the next generation of tooling at Void Zero.
Vue was ranked as the eighth most-popular web framework in the 2025 Developer Survey.
Congrats to Stellar Question badge winner Hari, who won for asking the question JavaScript - Track mouse position.
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A deep-dive on Vite
Amal and Nick load up on coffee for a not-so-vite (lame joke!) conversation with Evan You all about Vite – a batteries included next-generation frontend tooling library. Vite continues to push the ecosystem forward with even stronger defaults, super speedy local development workflows, and a highly extensible universal plugin API. Need we say more?!
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Featuring:
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Amal Hussein – GitHub, X
Nick Nisi – Website, GitHub, Mastodon, X
Show Notes:
Vite
Node SSR | Code source for Vite’s Rich Harris inspired in memory node module graph
Webpack Hardsource Plugin | Inspiration & spec author for Webpack 4’s Perf improvements
SWC (Speedy Web Compiler)
ESBuild
vite plugin legacy
Rust
Go
Parcel
Jest
Vitest
Partytown
Rollup
Svelte
SvelteKit
hydrogen
Snowpack
Astro
Vite SSR
es-module-lexer
MagicString (Rust)
Recent JS Party episode on Svelte with Rich Harris
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#078 – Taking on Google and Facebook as a Solo Open-Source Founder with Evan You of Vue.js
When Evan You (@youyuxi) decided to create his own front-end JavaScript framework, there were already mega-popular competitors in the market from no other than Facebook and Google. Still, Evan forged ahead to build something that would satisfy his own tastes, and it turned out millions of people wanted the same things he did. Learn how Evan built his open-source project Vue.js into one of the most popular in the world and grew it to over $200,000 in annual revenue via Patreon.
Transcript, speaker information, and more: https://www.indiehackers.com/podcast/078-evan-yue-of-vue
Discussing Vue.js and Personal Projects (Interview)
Evan You joined the show to talk about Vue.js - his library for building web interfaces. We discussed what Vue.js offers, what makes it different, why developers should trust this project even if it’s “just a personal project” that’s not backed by an enterprise or a large team.
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Show Notes:
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Vue.js Examples
Vue.js: a (re)introduction
Changelog Weekly - Issue #24
Issue Stats
Nicholas Young on Twitter: “Listening to The @changelog’s episode on @metabase, and realizing I couldn’t build businesses without open source.
vuejs/vue-hackernews
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