U.S. Department of the Treasury

(0:00) Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent joins the show (0:55) Recapping 2025 and the state of the economy (3:13) Tariffs: Leverage, legal challenges, implementation (15:20) Affordability: inflation, BLS data, interest rates (23:00) The Fed: biggest mistakes, how we got a 15 year asset bubble, rate cycle, appetite for US debt, Fed Chair candidates (42:44) Focus on Main Street, taking equity stakes in American companies (50:40) Tax cuts, Trump accounts, economic legacy Follow Secretary Bessent: https://x.com/SecScottBessent Referenced in the show: https://www.international-economy.com/TIE_Sp25_Bessent.pdf Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

Scott Bessent

Secretary of the Treasury

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(0:00) Scott Bessent, Treasury Secretary (17:44) Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior and Chris Wright, Energy Secretary (35:11) Howard Lutnick, Commerce Secretary Thanks to our partners for making this happen: NYSE : https://www.nyse.com Visa: https://usa.visa.com Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

Scott Bessent

Secretary of the Treasury

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Doug Burgum

US Secretary of the Interior

US Department of the Interior

Chris Wright

US Secretary of Energy

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Howard Lutnick

Secretary of Commerce

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(0:00) Chamath and Friedberg describe their adventures in DC and welcome Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent! (2:12) Scott's background, what drew him to equities, the role of macro investors (7:22) The legendary trade that broke the Bank of England in 1992, and how it relates to Main Street vs Wall Street today (21:30) Scott explains the Trump Administration's economic strategy (32:45) How this administration plans to de-regulate the economy, Fed relationship, re-financing debt (42:06) DOGE, DC grifts, shakeup at the IRS (50:51) Re-engineering social security through the US SWF, how energy factors in (1:00:02) Surprises, fixing affordability, thoughts on President Trump Thanks to our partners for making this happen: Gemini: https://www.gemini.com/allin Hims: https://www.hims.com | https://www.forhers.com iTrustCapital (use code allin): https://www.itrustcapital.com/allin Follow Secretary Bessent: https://x.com/SecScottBessent Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

Scott Bessent

Secretary of the Treasury

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