The Chopping Block: Visa, Mastercard & 140 Firms Take On Circle, Saylor’s Digital Credit Reset & the DAO Reckoning
The crew is joined by Selini Capital’s Jordi Alexander to break down Open USD, the no-fee stablecoin from a 140-firm consortium spanning Visa, Mastercard, BlackRock, Google and Coinbase, all aimed at the Circle and Tether duopoly. Plus Saylor’s new Digital Credit framework for MicroStrategy, the Ansem-fueled memecoin comeback, and ENS reigniting the “DAOs are fake” debate.
Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. Joining the panel “at the moment of max pain” is Jordi Alexander, CIO of Selini Capital. First up: MicroStrategy in crisis, with MSTR down about 30% in five days and STRC hitting $71, and Saylor’s answer, a new Digital Credit framework with an 18-month cash cushion and a jumbo dividend hike to 12%. Then the headline story, Open USD: a no-fee stablecoin from a 140-member consortium including Visa, Mastercard, BlackRock, Google and Coinbase, built to break the Circle and Tether duopoly.
The back half covers the memecoin comeback around the Ansem coin, and ENS reigniting the “DAOs are fake” debate after Nick Johnson single-handedly blocked a governance vote, before the crew debates whether consortia are just DAOs in a suit. Let’s get into it.
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Show highlights
🔹 MSTR falls about 30% in five days and STRC hits $71. Saylor answers with a new “Digital Credit” framework, an 18-month cash cushion, and a jumbo dividend hike to 12%
🔹 Jordi calls the death-spiral panic overblown: “Luna was worthless; you cannot print Bitcoin”
🔹 Tarun stands by “Luna for suits,” comparing STRC’s marketing to Anchor, right down to the AI ad of Saylor escaping the Titanic
🔹 Open USD launches: a no-fee, no-cap stablecoin backed by 140 firms including Visa, Mastercard, BlackRock, Google and Coinbase, aimed at the Circle and Tether duopoly
🔹 Circle drops about 7 to 8% on the news, and Tether’s Paolo Ardoino “welcomes” a real competitor, the same bit he ran on Libra
🔹 Haseeb’s take: a 140-member consortium is “a signed petition,” good for expanding the market but not for taking Tether’s or Circle’s turf
🔹 Tarun says it all comes down to the revenue share. Set the wrong rules and someone just farms the rake
🔹 The Ansem coin sparks a memecoin revival, a roughly $100M cap the market hasn’t seen in a long time
🔹 ENS reignites the DAO debate as Nick Johnson blocks a treasury restructuring with about 50% of the vote. Are consortia just DAOs in a suit?
Hosts
⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly
⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly
⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures
Guest
⭐️Jordi Alexander, CEO of Selini Capital
Disclosures
Timestamps
00:00 Intro
01:07 The DeSci beef and Tarun’s Ponzi crusade
03:30 MicroStrategy in crisis: Saylor’s Digital Credit reset
09:34 Is STRC still “Luna for suits”?
19:24 Open USD: 140 firms take on Circle and Tether
29:42 Why a 140-member consortium is just a “signed petition”
42:13 Coinbase’s two masters: USDC vs Open USD
47:01 The memecoin comeback and the Ansem coin
51:57 ENS blows up the DAO: Nick Johnson blocks the vote
57:26 DAOs vs consortia, and can AI save governance?
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Crypto In 2025, Is DAT Season Over & Market Outlook With Jordi Alexander
This week Jordi Alexander joins the show live from the Origin Summit, hosted by Story and Blockworks alongside Forward Guidance host Felix Jauvin. We deep dive into where are we in the cycle, is DAT season over, finding opportunity as an investor & more. Enjoy!
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Timestamps:
(0:00) Introduction
(1:33) Where Are We In The Cycle?
(4:40) Perp DEXs
(8:49) What To Focus On As An Investor
(11:06) Is DAT Season Over?
(16:41) Final Thoughts
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2 Crypto Investors on Why They Believe DeFi Is Poised for a Bull Run - Ep. 719
DeFi tokens have faced significant challenges in recent years. However, are we now on the verge of a new bull market?
Arthur Cheong, founder and CIO of DeFiance Capital, and Jordi Alexander, founder of Selini Capital and chief alchemist at Mantle, join the show to discuss why they believe DeFi is poised for growth. They dive into how DeFi's security and user experience have improved, the impact of Layer 2 solutions on Ethereum, and whether Ethereum or Solana will drive the next bull run. Plus, they discuss whether interest in memecoins takes attention from DeFi, and why sustainable tokenomics matters when it comes to valuing coins.
Are DeFi tokens finally ready to shine again?
Show highlights:
Why they believe that DeFi is poised for a bull cycle
How DeFi's security and UX have improved
Whether DeFi activity can be sustained in the long term
Why Jordi thinks that Layer 2s are not parasitic to ETH but Arthur thinks they are
Whether the DeFi bull case is stronger on Ethereum, Solana or other chains
Whether the Ethereum Foundation and Vitalik Buterin should be more proactive in supporting DeFi
How memecoins reflect a broader societal problem
The importance of tokens that don’t have big unlocks
How the lack of solid frameworks for valuing tokens might be causing capital misallocation in crypto
Whether a liquid venture investing approach is better for crypto
Why Jordi says that there’s a lot of “potential to unlock” with the overlap of Bitcoin and DeFi
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Guests:
Arthur Cheong, founder and CIO of DeFiance Capital
Aave, the Core Pillar of Decentralized Finance and Onchain Economy
Liquid Venture Investing in Crypto
Jordi Alexander, Chief Alchemist at Mantle, Founder of Selini Capital
Links
Previous coverage of Unchained on this cycle & DeFi :Has Decentralized Finance Hit Bottom?
Kain Warwick’s tweet on Vitalik being anti-DeFi
Cointelegraph: Vitalik Buterin responds to criticism that Ethereum ‘doesn’t care’ about DeFi
The great return of DeFi, by @tradetheflow
Bitcoin DeFi
Bitcoin Layer 2s Aim to Attract Ethereum-Like Dapps. Will They Succeed?
Bitcoin Is Worth Over $1 Trillion. How Much Will Coinbase’s New cbBTC Grab?
L2s and ETH:
ETH Is Down Bad, While Layer 2s Are Ripping. Are L2s Parasitic to Ethereum?
Are L2s ‘Parasitic’? Analysis Shows Ethereum Only Gets a Tiny Percentage of Fees
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Why Crypto's Capital Allocation is Broken | Jordi Alexander
In this episode, Jordi Alexander exposes the fundamental flaws in how capital is allocated in crypto. Jordi dissects the misaligned incentives, short-term thinking, and hype-driven decision-making that plague the space. He unpacks his take on token economics, the pitfalls of venture capital deals, and the often-overlooked dynamics of supply and demand. Jordi also shares insights on how projects like Mantle are attempting to rectify these issues, and provides a sobering outlook on what needs to change for crypto to realize its true potential. Thanks for tuning in!
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Intro
(01:37) Crypto Today
(07:30) ETH's Journey
(15:25) Truth About Currency Yield
(20:46) Fractionalizing ETH Value Accrual
(27:53) Valuating Digital Assets
(42:49) Cronos Ad
(43:49) Surpa Ad
(44:45) Harpie Ad
(45:38) Venture Dynamics
(56:14) Mantle's Origin & Strategy
(01:07:18) 2025 Outlook
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214 - L2 Tokens: Bullish or Bearish? with Sassal, Jordi, & Ippolito
✨ DEBRIEF | Ryan & David unpacking the episode: https://www.bankless.com/debrief-l2-tokens/
------ Are Layer2 Tokens bullish or are they just worthless governance tokens?
We’ve brought a team of expert panelists to help us answer that exact question.
Mike Ippolito, Jordi Alexander and Anthony Sassano explore Layer2 business models, where value is accrued and how to capture that upside.
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L2Beat https://l2beat.com/scaling/summary
ETH in 2024 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rPF8zNnfnE
Anthony Sassano https://twitter.com/sassal0x
Mike Ippolito https://twitter.com/MikeIppolito_
Jordi Alexander https://twitter.com/gametheorizing
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203 - ETH in 2024
✨ DEBRIEF | Ryan & David unpacking the episode: https://www.bankless.com/debrief-eth-2024
----- 2023 wasn’t great for Ethereum… from a price perspective. But it was fantastic from a building perspective.
Where does Ethereum go from here? What does 2024 have in store for ETH the asset and Ethereum the network?
Anthony Sassano, Mike Ippolito, and Jordi Alexander join to give a high level overview of the Ethereum ecosystem. The problems, the solutions, and the future.
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Should Bitcoin Embrace New Use Cases? | Lyn Alden, Jordi Alexander
Today we are joined by Lyn Alden and Jordi Alexander to discuss the Bitcoin blockspace debate, Bitcoin's long-term security and money vs tech crypto. Lyn and Jordi are two of the most prominent macro and Bitcoin investors. You don't want to miss their hot (and often conflicting) takes on the evolution and future of Bitcoin!
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Bitcoin Blockspace Debate
(10:59) The Bear Case and Long-Term Security
(36:03) Quicknode
(37:50) Kwenta
(38:45) Money Crypto vs Tech Crypto
(51:53) Bitcoin's Attack Vectors
(57:56) Incentives for Bitcoin Development
(01:09:29) Macro’s Impact on BTC
(01:14:45) The Bitcoin Halvening
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Resources
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Selini Capital
https://www.selinicapital.com/
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Here's how game theory can help traders understand crypto
While the crypto market may seem chaotic to the outside observer, game theory can be used to analyze the underlying dynamics that lead to volatile price action.
Jordi Alexander, Founder & CIO of Selini Capital, has a track record for utilizing game theory to predict crypto market events — including the collapse of the TerraUSD 'stablecoin' last year.
In this episode of The Scoop, Alexander unpacks how individual cryptocurrencies derive their value, and explains how game theory can be used to demystify crypto market behavior.
According to Alexander, the value of cryptocurrencies comes largely from their potential for some future utility:
“A lot of these tokens, including the big ones, including Bitcoin and Ethereum, they’re options, and you have to understand what gives an option value . . . Ethereum is an option on all the future apps that can be built and use that platform . . . Bitcoin is a call option on it being an alternative to the fiat financial system.”
In addition to economic predictions, game theory can also be applied to crypto in a geopolitical context when it comes to regulation.
As Alexander explains, the United States unilaterally banning crypto would do little to stop the growth of the industry:
"If they ban [crypto] over here, game theory stipulates that there's going to be so much demand that will get satisfied by another country providing it that maybe it's actually not good for the United States to ban and assume that this is going to go away because it's not going to stop crypto from developing — it'll just drive it to somewhere else."
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The ETH Merge: BULL OR BEAR? David debates Jordi Alexander
Jordi Alexander returns to debate David Hoffman on whether or not next week's Ethereum Merge is bullish or bearish for ETH. The debate is moderated by none other than, Ryan Sean Adams.
Let us know if you're bullish or bearish in the comments or on Twitter: @banklesshq
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------ Resources:
Jordi Alexander https://twitter.com/gametheorizing
Jordi's Article https://newsletter.banklesshq.com/p/is-the-merge-overhyped
David's Rebuttal to Jordi's Article https://newsletter.banklesshq.com/p/a-rebuttal-to-jordi-alexander-and
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How Did UST Collapse? | Jordi Alexander & Mika Honkasalo
Jordi Alexander and Mika Honkasalo join Jason and Santiago on today’s episode of “Empire" to discuss the meltdown of UST, Terra's stablecoin. The match was lit Sunday with UST de-pegging from one dollar, and it's now become the single biggest wealth destruction event in crypto.
Jordi and Mika explain what led to UST's demise, how this could have been prevented, and what's in store for the future of UST and Terra. Is this the end of decentralized stablecoins? Can the market recover? Tune in to find out.
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(00:00) Introduction
(01:07) What Happened to UST?
(04:32) Utility vs Ponzi Mechanics
(12:13) BTC Reserve
(15:26) The Attack
(20:32) How Did Institutions Play This?
(24:31) Macro's Impact
(26:52) Future of Decentralized Stablecoins
(35:46) How Could UST Be Designed Differently?
(43:21) The Multiplier Effect
(44:44) The Soros Test
(46:57) What's Next for UST?
(56:16) The Arbitrage
(59:12) The Systemic Effects
(1:05:40) The Investment Outlook
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