Saronic Founders: Autonomous Warships, China's 230X Advantage & Swarms of Robot Ships
(0:00) Saronic founders join the show!
(4:56) The Navy's first autonomous rescue in the Strait of Hormuz, and how China out builds America 230-to-1
(13:04) $3B destroyers vs. Marauder
(21:25) Killing cost-plus, the new primes, and why only 1% of the budget goes to autonomy
(25:55) Could 10,000 Corsairs actually lock down a 20-mile strait?
(31:25) China's arming robot dogs: will our AI weapons hurt us in Taiwan?
(36:33) Exclusive announcement: Port Alpha lands in Brownsville: 4000 acres, 10,000 jobs
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Rebuilding The American Shipyard
Erin Price-Wright speaks with Michael Duffey and Dino Mavrookas about what it will take to rebuild the American defense industrial base for a new era of competition. As production capacity becomes a central constraint, they outline how the system must shift toward speed, scale, and modern manufacturing.
The conversation covers the role of autonomy in both defense systems and industrial processes, and how new approaches to design, labor, and production can dramatically reduce cost and complexity. Mavrookas explains how building for software and autonomy enables entirely new classes of platforms, while Duffey emphasizes the need for structural changes in how the Department of Defense works with industry.
They also discuss the importance of commercial markets in supporting defense capabilities, the fragility of existing supply chains, and why aligning private capital with national priorities is essential to long-term resilience.
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