A Startup Is Trying to Buy PayPal… Craziest Deal of 2026! | E2312
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Hustle Fund's Eric Bahn and Chapter One's Jeff Morris Jr. join our venture capital roundtable directly following the news breaking that Stripe wants to buy PayPal. The possible transaction highlights how little interest today's leading startups have in going public any time soon. With host Alex Wilhelm, Bahn and Morris dug into when startups should burn the boats à la Fin, physical AI as the next frontier, the power of Silicon Valley groupthink, and how startups are approaching the first days of widespread, company-specific AI evals!
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Show links:
Stripe wants to buy PayPal https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/stripe-advent-offer-buy-paypal-more-than-53-billion-sources-say-2026-07-15/
Flex https://www.flex.one/
Webflow https://webflow.com/
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Fin selling to Salesforce https://www.salesforce.com/news/press-releases/2026/06/15/salesforce-signs-definitive-agreement-to-acquire-fin/
Erebor https://erebor.bank/
"Competition is for losers" https://www.wsj.com/articles/peter-thiel-competition-is-for-losers-1410535536
Chapter One piece on the value of software https://jamesin.substack.com/p/some-areas-weve-been-investing-in
Timestamps:
0:00 Eric Bahn (Hustle Fund) & Jeff Morris Jr. (Chapter One) join the show!
1:35 Stripe's reported $53B offer for PayPal
6:29 Why founders don't want to go public
10:08 Agree.com - Stop chasing invoices and automate your entire contract-to-cash stack. Go to https://agree.com and tell them Jason sent you to get 50% off for life!
15:16 When is it time to burn the boats?
20:12 MongoDB - AI-assisted and agentic coding is helping you build faster than ever. Start building at https://MongoDB.com/ai
21:16 Does VC need an AI revolution?
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32:36 Custom evals, open source models, and avoiding vendor lock-in
36:37 Physical AI and robotics as the next frontier
37:42 Oak's $60M seed and startup clusters chasing agent infrastructure
40:43 Escaping the Silicon Valley "think tank"
48:28 Consumer AI's missing wave
1:00:18 AI regulation and how to get it right
1:12:01 Where to find our guests and wrap-up!
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Compliance Startup Scandal... Is Delve Guilty? | E2266
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Hustle Fund general partner Elizabeth Yin joined Jason and Alex to discuss how rapid advances in AI have changed the venture capital game, and how the same AI updates are changing how founders build. Founders may need less capital than before, which could reduce their reliance on venture dollars over time.
Ceel founder Ryan Mahdavi joined next to help Jason and Alex dig into the Delve story. Well-funded Delve was publicly criticized for allegedly overselling their compliance tool’s capabilities and not being honest with customers. Delve has responded to the allegations, though Mahdavi said that he had his doubts about the competing startup even before the news story broke.
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20:38 Red and pink flags, and how investors can spot potential fraud
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32:25 Were there early warning signs about issues with Delve?
33:26 On Delve's use of tactical donuts
36:55 What about the Delve board? If there is one?
45:24 Seb Sheng stops by to tell us about how Brick Data saves companies massively on energy costs
49:38 Who are Brick's customers and how much are they paying?
54:16 Lightning Round: A quick history of Brick
56:02 Why Jason is so bullish on $TAO
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1:06:35 How do LeadPoet's "miners" track down the best leads?
1:13:09 How Bittensor subnets map to traditional startup forms
1:17:15 How can agents build up authority if they can't get hired for their first job?
1:21:03 Jason: "I think the game of Bitcoin has ended…"
1:23:22 Why Jason likes to place a bet, then learn
1:24:16 The inherent risks in crypto investment
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Venture Fund Size Growth, the Rise of Unicorns, and more with Elizabeth Yin and Zach Coelius | E1886
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(45:11) Number of unicorns has increased but liquidity has decreased
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Titan tragedy, Meta removes news in Canada + Elizabeth Yin at Angel Summit | E1767
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Equity Crowdfunding is making the private markets public
Hello and welcome back to Equity, TechCrunch’s venture capital-focused podcast, where we unpack the numbers behind the headlines.
For this week’s deep dive, the Equity team brought on Gumroad CEO Sahil Lavingia and Hustle Fund General Partner Elizabeth Yin to talk about equity crowdfunding. It’s been about a week since the SEC increased the equity crowdfunding cap from $1.07 million to $5 million, creating the perfect opportunity to go beyond the dollar amount and understand how the change impacts founders, venture capitalists, retail investors, and future fund managers.
Here’s a brief rundown of the show:
We talk about the basics of this new SEC regulation, and understand which platforms might be leading the pack for these bootstrapped campaigns. Indiegogo’s founder wrote an op-ed grading the new regulations on the site.
Some banter on Gumroad’s 12-hour campaign that led to a successfully crowdsourced $5 million for the company. Lavingia talks about his decision to crowdfund a round in his company, why it made sense for the company, and what it will take to make this raise mainstream.
Of course, Yin shared a ton of helpful nuggets around crowdfunding, providing a venture capital perspective that was still bullish on growing the amount of check-writers in the ecosystem. Some recent equity crowdfunding campaigns have shown that there are thousands of individuals willing to fund the enterprises they want to see succeed. Juked.gg is one such example.
There are also notes on the Testing the Waters dynamic that could usher some wiggle room to early-stage founders thinking about this.
Will equity crowdfunding supplant venture capital, or will it merely augment it? Our discussion leads us to ponder both possibilities. What seems clear is that equity crowdfunding could widen the band of companies that are "backable," if not the band of companies that traditional venture capital players find enticing.
And we end with a whole bunch of meta debates, from the role of the platform in vetting campaigns. As with every innovation, including crowdfunding itself, there will be fraud and failure. But if there will be enough bad news to limit consumer interest is far from certain.
This is one of those nerdy topics that gets us really excited about the future of dollar allocation and startup creation. We hope you love the show and leave with a better understanding of what’s ahead.
Credits: Equity is produced by Theresa Loconsolo with editing by Kell. Bryce Durbin is our Illustrator. We'd also like to thank the audience development team and Henry Pickavet, who manages TechCrunch audio products.
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E1061 AMA: Hustle Fund's Elizabeth Yin answers 50 questions from founders!
Hustle Fund Co-Founder & General Partner Elizabeth Yin answers 50 questions from founders!
E1055: Hustle Fund Co-Founder & General Partner Elizabeth Yin on her unique portfolio strategy, attracting first-time LPs, optimism for post-COVID fundraising, dealing with pro rata as a smaller fund & more!
0:50 Jason opens the show with some thoughts on livelihood, getting back to work as a lose-lose situation and approaching the situation with kindness and empathy
5:47 Jason intros Hustle Fund's Elizabeth Yin and they discuss the process of raising Hustle Fund I and targeting first-time LPs
10:25 Why high net worth individuals would look to become venture LPs
14:26 What's the deal with Elizabeth & hippos? Where can you find Jason as his alter-ego "CyberSurfer"
15:49 What is Hustle Fund's portfolio strategy?
18:55 When do you know if you have a 100x outlier? Why roll prior angel investments into the fund?
24:15 Thinking of venture funds from a gambling perspective
28:24 What is Hustle Fund's approach to pro-rata as a smaller fund?
34:49 Founders ability to "game" investors increasing in last 5 years
37:47 How does Elizabeth decide to make the follow-on second bet in a company?
42:01 How does Elizabeth advise her startups to raise from downstream Seed/Series A investors, importance of positive unit economics
47:41 Challenges of fundraising in today's climate
50:34 Reasons for optimism/pessimism, lockdown creating a necessity for innovation
56:55 What will COVID's permanent ramifications be on startups?
Venture Capital 101 with Eric Bahn
On this episode, Ryan sits down with Eric Bahn from Hustle Fund in San Francisco. Hustle Fund invests in what they call “hilariously-early hustlers.” Prior to co-founding the fund, Eric worked in a number of operating roles, including as a product manager at Intuit, co-founder of a gaming company, founder of a startup to serve MBA students (that was later acquired), product manager at Facebook, co-founder of a media company called The Hustle, and EIR at 500 Startups (phew!).
On this episode we take you behind the curtain to break down exactly how venture capital works. We talk about:
Eric's advice on how to break into venture capital if you've never worked in the space before.
Some of the common misconceptions about VC, including how much venture capitalists are actually paid (spoiler alert: unless you're at a big fund, it's not as much as you think).
Hustle Fund's investing thesis, including their unique data-driven approach to investing in early stage companies.
We also talk about the rise of “no code” and some of the best apps that are letting makers create amazing products without writing code.
We’ll be back next week so be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Breaker, Overcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts. Also, big thanks to AngelList and FreshBooks for their support. 😸
Quotes from This Episode
“Fundamentally our jobs are the most blessed in the world because we just surround ourselves with people who have a worldview, have a product, have an idea, that they wholeheartedly believe in. They’ve taken all the sacrifices to make that happen and you and I may not agree all the time with whether their vision is the correct one to be successful but it only leaves you with optimism.” — Eric
“Our thesis is driven by the notion that the single best leading indicator of success for a team — that is discernible at the pre-seed stage, is this characteristic called hustle. Whatever the core metrics that are relevant for your business, the teams that are growing aggressively against those metrics tend to grind out the best results over time.” — Eric
“These folks will look amazing on paper — maybe they worked at Facebook or Google or something previously, went to Stanford or MIT, checks all the boxes, and then you watch them work and you realize that person who was successful in the context of a larger company with more resources doesn’t necessarily have the skills that translate to cold-starting a business from scratch in a world of entropy where there’s no rules and no structure.” — Eric
Companies and Products Mentioned in This Episode
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Articles Mentioned In This Episode
Mark Suster, Both Sides: Invest in Lines, Not Dots
Kate Clark, TechCrunch: This Is How Much VCs Are Paid
Venture Capital SaaS: A VC's Guide from Seed to Series A
Elizabeth Yin watched 200 startups go through 500 Startups' accelerator and noticed that venture capital SaaS fundraising success wasn't correlated with how good founders were at running their businesses. That insight led her to launch Hustle Fund, a pre-seed fund built around one metric - speed of execution.
Elizabeth breaks down SaaS fundraising 101 into three seed stages: pre-seed (zero to $30K MRR), seed ($30K-$1M run rate), and post-seed ($1M-$3M run rate). She shares how to pack 10-20 investor meetings into one week, test startup funding valuation with a small lower-priced tranche, and keep pitch emails to five bullet points.
Elizabeth Yin is the co-founder and general partner at Hustle Fund. Previously she founded LaunchBit (acquired 2014) and led the accelerator program at 500 Startups. She evaluates venture capital SaaS deals based on velocity, not pedigree.
🔑 Key Lessons
🎯 Know the three stages of venture capital SaaS before you start: Pre-seed is zero to $30K MRR, seed is $30K to $1M run rate, and post-seed is $1M to $3M - each stage has different investor pools and expectations.
💰 Test valuation with a small first tranche: Offer a small portion of your round at a lower cap using a YC SAFE, then raise the valuation if it fills easily - this creates urgency and gives real market data.
⚡ Pack 10-20 investor meetings into one week: Moving all investors through decisions simultaneously creates urgency and prevents the common problem of one investor being ready while another hasn't started.
🧠 Keep your venture capital SaaS pitch to five bullet points: Problem, solution, traction, market size, and team - investors spend 5-30 seconds on emails, so brevity gets the meeting.
🤝 Choose investors who fill your specific gaps: Technical founders should seek investors with SaaS customer acquisition experience. Founders outside major cities should recruit a Bay Area investor for downstream introductions.
Chapters
Introduction
Elizabeth's favorite quote - shoot for the moon
What Hustle Fund is and who it invests in
Elizabeth's background - LaunchBit, 500 Startups, Hustle Fund
The disconnect between venture capital SaaS and execution quality
Pattern matching in VC - pedigree, demographics, extroversion
What makes Hustle Fund different - velocity over pedigree
Customer acquisition unit economics at pre-seed
Why SaaS margins make venture capital SaaS investing easier
When bootstrapped founders should start raising a seed round
The 2018 fundraising landscape - three stages of seed
How to get started with SaaS fundraising
Fundraising from outside Silicon Valley
How much capital to raise - work backwards from milestones
Pitching do's and don'ts - two-stage pitch strategy
Five-slide deck and brevity as the top differentiator
Valuation strategy - supply, demand, and testing tranches
Choosing the right investor - value add vs money
Lightning round
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20VC: Why VCs Fundamentally Assess Founders The Wrong Way, Why VC Needs To Innovate On The Scouting Model & Why SAFE's and Convertible Notes Are The Future Of Investing with Elizabeth Yin, Founder & General Partner @ Hustle Fund
Elizabeth Yin is the Co-Founder & Managing Partner @ Hustle Fund, as they describe, the ventue fund for hilariously early hustlers. Elizabeth is also the co-founder of HustleCon, a conference series for non-technical entrepreneurs to launch and scale their startups. Prior to Hustle Fund, Elizabeth was a Partner @ 500 Startups where she ran the 500 Startups seed program in Mountain View and where she and her partner saw over 20,000 startup decks. Before that Elizabeth was a successful operator, as the Co-Founder and CEO of Launchbit, an adtech platform that was acquired by BuySellAds.
In Today's Episode You Will Learn:
1.) How Elizabeth made her way from successful founder with LaunchBit to Partner @ 500 Startups to now founding partner of Hustle Fund?
2.) Why does Elizabeth believe that VCs fundamentally assess founders the wrong way? What is the right way to assess founders in such early stages? How can one really stress test the level of hustle from the founding team?
3.) How does Elizabeth assess innovation in the practice of venture capital? Why does Elizabeth believe that there has been very little creativity towards innovation? Who has innovatively addressed sourcing the best companies?
4.) In a world of noted rounds with a cap structure, how does Elizabeth feel about gaining the pro-rata in deals? Why does Elizabeth believe that ownership stake and portfolio size are not in conflict with one another?
5.) How does Elizabeth view the future of the VC industry? How can the early stage funnel be flipped on it's head? Why does Elizabeth believe that SAFEs and convertible notes are the future of investing?
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Elizabeth's Most Recent Investment: The Pill Club
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