Electric Capital

Re is bringing the $1T reinsurance market onchain. Founder Karn Saroya and Electric Capital’s Avichal Garg join David to unpack how stablecoins can become a new capital source for insurance, why real-world reinsurance may offer crypto’s missing “real yield,” and how Re is using Ethereum, smart contracts, and AI to compete with legacy giants like Lloyd’s of London, Munich Re, and Swiss Re. They also discuss the RE token, the future of onchain capital markets, and why stablecoins could become the backbone of a new financial system. --- 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24 https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium --- BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🔮POLYMARKET | #1 PREDICTION MARKET https://bankless.cc/polymarket-podcast 🧭OKX | TRADE, EARN, PAY to OKX | 120M+ USERS WORLDWIDE https://app.okx.com/join/USBANKLESS 🦊 METAMASK | DOWNLOAD NOW https://go.metamask.io/BL-Pod-Download 🌐BRIX | EMERGING MARKET YIELD https://bankless.cc/brix 🎯THE DEFI REPORT | ONCHAIN INSIGHTS https://thedefireport.io/bankless --- TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 2:13 Blockchain Reinsurance Edge 4:12 Stablecoin Capital Markets 9:17 Efficiency Beats Incumbents 13:02 Rewiring Insurance Plumbing 16:24 Durable Startup Advantage 23:26 Reinsurance Market Size 30:09 How Reinsurance Pays 32:42 Capital Stack Mechanics 35:52 Leverage and Yield 40:02 What $RE Tracks 41:34 Tranche Yields 42:36 Productive Capital Returns 44:47 Looping the Receipts 48:01 $RE Token Governance 51:26 Roadmap to a Billion 52:13 Onchain Adoption Ahead 56:02 The DeFi Mullet Future --- RESOURCES Re https://re.xyz/home Karn Saroya https://x.com/karnsaroya Avichal Garg https://x.com/avichal --- Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures

Karn Saroya

Founder

Re

Avichal Garg

Co-Founder and Partner

Electric Capital

This week, Avichal Garg joins the show to discuss how he is currently allocating to crypto in 2026. We deep dive into the opportunity in crypto and AI venture, how to build a breakout app, the future path for Ethereum, why Avichal is still bullish on SOL & ETH, why tokens trade at a discount and more. Enjoy! -- Follow Avichal: https://x.com/avichal Follow Jason: https://x.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Empire: https://x.com/theempirepod -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (13:58) How To Build A Breakout App (21:46) Where Electric Sees the Most Opportunity (33:35) Why Do Tokens Trade At A Discount? (39:42) Why Avichal Is Still Bullish On SOL & ETH (42:46) Who Wins The Crypto Exchange Wars? (48:10) The Ethereum Roadmap (54:16) How To Make DeFi Safe Again (57:50) Final Thoughts -- Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, Rob and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

Avichal Garg

Co-Founder and Partner

Electric Capital

ETHZilla wants to turn ETH into Wall Street’s new reserve asset, and they’ve built a plan to do it. Ryan sits down with Avichal Garg (Electric Capital) and Mac Rudisill (ETHZilla) to unpack why ETH treasuries exploded this cycle, how credit markets (converts, preferreds, and debt) supercharge accumulation, and why stablecoins → DeFi → ETH forms a flywheel that turns Ether into high-quality collateral. We dig into leverage discipline, mNAV premiums, operational security, and the business math that makes an ETH treasury look more like Berkshire than a hype trade. Plus: can this wave trigger a DeFi after-boom, and what does “winning” actually mean for ETHZilla? --- 📣RONIN “ONCHAIN NINTENDO” | DOWNLOAD THE RONIN WALLET https://bankless.cc/RoninWallet --- BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🪙FRAX | SELF SUFFICIENT DeFi https://bankless.cc/Frax 🦄UNISWAP | SWAP ON UNICHAIN https://bankless.cc/unichain 🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle --- TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 3:53 Catching Tom Lee and Peter Thiel Backing 7:53 Treasury vs. ETF vs. Just Holding ETH 11:58 Why Treasuries Are Booming 16:51 New Debt Instruments & Appetite 22:00 Leverage, Rehypothecation & Risk Controls 29:50 The Big Unlock: ETH as High-Quality Collateral 34:35 Stablecoins → DeFi → ETH Flywheel 38:55 “ETH Is the Next Bitcoin?” 54:51 Why ETH Lagged BTC 56:05 ETH vs BTC Treasuries: Yield Surface 1:01:33 Why Electric Capital Runs Deployment 1:03:45 Buy Rules: Time vs. Price 1:09:00 Attention Matters: Spokesperson & Community 1:13:24 What “Winning” Looks Like for ETHZilla 1:17:59 Where Are We in the Cycle? 1:26:12 DeFi Afterboom? --- RESOURCES Maria Shen’s “Beyond Stablecoins” Report https://x.com/MariaShen/status/1942658782439395815 --- Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures

Avichal Garg

Co-Founder and Partner

Electric Capital

Mac Rudisill

Founder

ETHZilla

Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. With special guests: Avichal Garg, Managing Partner at Electric Capital, and Tomasz K. Stańczak, Co-Executive Director at the Ethereum Foundation. This week we get into one of the most pivotal moments in Ethereum’s history — from the Tornado Cash verdict and its chilling implications for developers, to Wall Street’s growing embrace of ETH through the launch of ETHZilla. The crew unpacks how this trial could redefine developer liability, why Ethereum’s narrative is shifting toward institutional adoption, and what the next decade could look like for the world’s most versatile blockchain. Whether you’re here for the legal drama, the market moves, or the inside scoop from Ethereum’s top builders and investors, this episode delivers the sharp analysis, big-picture context, and unfiltered hot takes you’ve come to expect from The Chopping Block. Show highlights 🔹 Tornado Cash Verdict Breakdown – Haseeb explains the mixed outcome: a conviction on one count, hung jury on the most serious charges, and what it means for Roman Storm’s future. 🔹 Developer Liability in the Spotlight – Why the case sends a chilling signal to open-source and privacy protocol builders across the U.S. 🔹 Inside the Appeal Strategy – How contradictions between DOJ arguments and FinCEN guidance could shape Roman’s path forward. 🔹 Avichal’s Optimistic Take – Why he believes the American legal and political system will ultimately land on the right side of crypto innovation. 🔹 Historical Parallels – Comparing today’s battles over smart contracts and AI to the legal fights over corporations and cryptography in centuries past. 🔹 ETHZilla Unveiled – Avichal introduces Electric Capital’s new Ethereum treasury vehicle, how it’s designed to work, and its potential impact on DeFi. 🔹 Wall Street Meets Ethereum – The crew explores how institutional capital could become a massive “supply sink” for ETH. 🔹 Potential Shakeouts Ahead – Why some public ETH vehicles may face activist investor pressure, M&A, or liquidation if they stay subscale. 🔹 Ethereum Foundation’s Vibe Shift – Tomasz shares how the EF is engaging more openly with the community, leaning into finance, and guiding ecosystem coordination. 🔹 Ethereum’s Resurgence – From legal fights to market dominance, why ETH feels unstoppable heading into its next decade. Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly  Guests ⭐️ Avichal Garg, Managing Partner at Electric Capital ⭐️ Tomasz K. Stańczak, Co-Executive Director at the Ethereum Foundation ⁠Disclosures⁠ Links Beyond Stablecoins: The Case for Ethereum by Maria Shen and Sanjay Shah (Electric Capital) https://electriccapital.substack.com/p/beyond-stablecoins-the-case-for-ethereum  Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:36 Tornado Cash Trial Verdict 06:16 Legal and Industry Reactions 09:25 Future of Crypto Legislation 21:13 Smart Contracts & AI Legislation 27:58 Introduction to ETHZilla 31:47 Community-Oriented Ethereum Initiatives 32:38 Wall Street Money in DeFi 35:08 Activist Investors & Market Dynamics 39:25 TradFi vs. DeFi 44:12 Ethereum Foundation's Cultural Shift 54:13 The Role of Ethereum Foundation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Avichal Garg

Co-Founder and Partner

Electric Capital

Tomasz K. Stańczak

Executive Director

Ethereum Foundation

Happy Friday! On this Roundup, Rob is officially announced as the third host, Avichal join the pod to discuss DATs, and beyond DATs the White House Crypto Report is explored, Zora creator tokens, and the BIG news of the collaboration between Coinbase and Chase to push crypto into mass adoption orbit.  --Start your day with crypto news, analysis and data from Katherine Ross. Subscribe to the Empire newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/empire?utm_source=podcasts -- Follow Avichal: https://x.com/avichal Follow Rob: https://x.com/HadickM Follow Santi: https://x.com/santiagoroel Follow Jason: https://x.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod -- Join the Empire Telegram: https://t.me/+CaCYvTOB4Eg1OWJh -- GEODNET is the world’s largest RTK network, delivering real-time, centimeter-level precision for drones, robots, farmers, and first responders. Recognized by the U.S. Congress, this blockchain-powered network supports mission-critical applications across a wide range of industries. Discover how GEODNET is changing the world: [https://geodnet.com] -- Get up to speed on the biggest stories in crypto each week. In five minutes. Get the Bitwise Weekly CIO Memo delivered directly to your inbox at bitwiseinvestments.com/ciomemo/empire -- "Mantle is pioneering ""Blockchain for Banking"" as a revolutionary new category that sits at the intersection of TradFi and web3. Key elements for Mantle as the ""Blockchain for Banking"": - Transactions posted to the blockchain - Compatibility with TradFi rails - Integrated DeFi featuresUR, built by Mantle, is the first real-world example: an on-chain money app offering Swiss IBANs and unified access to fiat (EUR, CHF, USD, RMB) and crypto — bringing crypto into everyday finance.Mantle Network, the access layer — transforms Mantle Network into a purpose-built vertical platform — the blockchain for banking — that enables financial services on-chain. Mantle leads the establishment of Blockchain for Banking as the next frontier.Follow Mantle on X (@Mantle_Official) for the latest updates on Mantle as the 'Blockchain for Banking'." -- Citrea is the first zero-knowledge rollup to enhance the capabilities of Bitcoin blockspace and enable Bitcoin applications (₿apps). Citrea is optimistically verified by Bitcoin, offering the most Bitcoin-secured and native way to extend BTC’s utility to DeFi. Learn more about Citrea: https://citrea.xyz/?utm_source=bellcurve&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=website_promo Follow Citrea on X/Twitter for the latest on its journey to mainnet: https://x.com/citrea_xyz -- Chapters: (02:14) DATs Explored (19:37) Ads (Geodnet, Bitwise) (21:11) ETHZilla (30:32) DAT KPIs (36:15) Ads (Geodnet, Bitwise) (37:49) DAT FUD (51:15) Ads (Mantle,Citrea) (52:54) Native Token or DAT (01:00:06) White House Crypto Report (01:07:29) Coinbase X Chase (01:11:17) Zora + Creator Tokens (01:19:21) Content Recs — Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

Avichal Garg

Co-Founder and Partner

Electric Capital

The 2024 Developer Report from Electric Capital reveals many shifting dynamics. For starters, for the first time in eight years, Ethereum was not the top chain for new developers—Solana was. Meanwhile, Asia has emerged as the leading hub for crypto development, taking the top spot from North America, which dropped to third. In this episode, General Partner Maria Shen explores how Ethereum's Layer 2 solutions are bolstering its position despite fierce competition, why the Bitcoin developer ecosystem remains steadfast, and how emerging projects like EigenLayer are capturing builders’ attention.  She also delves into the top crypto technologies that are fascinating devs, and how their usage and development activity differ across the globe.  Show highlights: Maria’s top takeaways from the report Whether the developer migration from the U.S. will stop under a friendlier regulatory environment How Ethereum has maintained its dominance despite its high fees and the rise of Solana  What the steadiness of the Bitcoin developer ecosystem shows Which other smaller ecosystems are growing the most  How ZK contract usage has been increasing over time Why, despite what one could think, NFT minting activity is higher than ever How stablecoin usage differs from token to token and also across countries Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Polkadot Guest Maria Shen, General Partner at Electric Capital Previous appearance on Unchained: Why Crypto Developer Activity Continues to Grow Despite the Bear Market  Links Unchained: A Big 2024 Crypto Trend: Solana Attracts More New Developers Than Ethereum Timestamps:  00:00 Intro 02:02 Key findings from Electric Capital’s Developer Report 08:28 Could a friendlier U.S. regulatory environment reverse the developer migration? 12:54 How Ethereum could stay dominant amid rising competition from Solana 17:48 Insights from the Bitcoin developer ecosystem 21:33 Emerging smaller ecosystems gaining traction 23:41 The steady growth in ZK contract usage 27:39 Why NFT minting activity is at an all-time high 32:31 How stablecoin usage varies across tokens, chains and countries 36:22 News Recap Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Maria Shen

General Partner

Electric Capital

In today's episode Haseeb and Avichal return to Empire for a deep dive into the current state of the crypto market cycle. They debate whether we're heading toward a massive bubble or a more mature market phase. They also discuss the growing competition from Solana in the L1 sector. Then Haseeb and Avichal also dissect the impact of memecoins on crypto adoption, debate the real value of network effects, and analyze how Trump's potential election could reshape crypto's regulatory landscape. The episode concludes with a fascinating comparison between Ethereum and Intel, examining the risks of market dominance and innovation stagnation. - - Start your day with crypto news, analysis and data from Katherine Ross and David Canellis. Subscribe to the Empire newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/empire?utm_source=podcasts Follow Haseeb: https://x.com/hosseeb Follow Avichal: https://x.com/avichal Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Santiago: https://twitter.com/santiagoroel Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Subscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2j Subscribe on Apple: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7ww Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Explore the SKALE Ecosystem at skale.space/ecosystem and stay up to date with the gas-free blockchain on X at @skalenetwork - - It's time for an on chain Binance to emerge. Magic Eden is getting into token trading and their vision is to become on chain Binance and then much more as the entire world ends up moving on chain - - The self-custody wallet that's built for swapping. Created for a multi-chain world by the most trusted team in DeFi. Available on Chrome, iOS, and Android. https://blckwrks.co/UniswapWallet - - $cmETH, a Mantle native liquid restaking token, will launch together with Season 2: Methamorphosis, allowing users to easily participate in restaking, and earn $COOK rewards in addition to other yields. $COOK, the governance token of mETH Protocol, will allow holders to play a pivotal role in directing the strategic future of mETH Protocol. Learn more: https://x.com/mETHProtocol - - Ledger, the world leader in digital asset security, proudly sponsors Empire podcast. Celebrating 10 years of protecting over 20% of the world’s crypto, Ledger ensures the security of your assets. For the best self-custody solution in the space, buy a LEDGER™ device and secure your crypto today. Buy now at Ledger.com - - Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 02:44 Is this Crypto's Boom & Bust Cycle? 14:03 Does the Market Understand Crypto? 18:20 Super Cycle (Real) 28:14 Return Dispersion 36:00 Why People are Buying Memecoins 48:02 Skale Ad 48:41 Magic Eden Ad 49:25 Uniswap Ad 49:57 Mantle Ad 50:51 Ledger Ad 51:36 Impact of Memecoins on VCs 58:46 Ethereum's Position 01:21:46 Impact of New US Admin - - Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

Haseeb Qureshi

Managing Partner

DragonflyDragonfly Capital

Avichal Garg

Co-Founder and Partner

Electric Capital

In this episode, Jason is live from Permissionless with Michael Anderson from Framework Ventures and Avichal Garg from Electric Capital. They delve into the implications of Uniswap's Unichain, exploring its potential impact on ETH, OP, and the broader DeFi ecosystem. The conversation shifts to the evolving landscape of crypto applications and infrastructure, touching on investment strategies in both public and private markets. Finally, they discuss the upcoming U.S. election's influence on crypto regulation and the surprising role of stablecoins in national security. - - Start your day with crypto news, analysis and data from Katherine Ross and David Canellis. Subscribe to the Empire newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/empire?utm_source=podcasts Follow Avichal: https://twitter.com/avichal Follow Michael: https://x.com/im_manderson Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Santiago: https://twitter.com/santiagoroel Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Subscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2j Subscribe on Apple: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7ww Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Anoma is the universal intent machine, introducing a new era of applications where you define the outcomes you want. Anoma’s intent-centric architecture provides a universal operating system for building intent-centric apps compatible with any blockchain. Anoma vastly improves blockchain UX, enables novel applications, and promotes a more human-centric future for decentralized technology. Follow Anoma at x.com/anoma and signup for the newsletter at anoma.net - - Supra Containers are secured by Supra’s L1 nodes and get access to Supra’s 500k TPS throughput, sub-second consensus latency, and all their built-in services like oracle price feeds and onchain randomness without any overhead. Supra is also MultiVM compatible so you can easily deploy your EVM, Move, and SVM smart contracts here. Get all the freedom, control, and tools you need to build super dApps and bring the world onchain. To learn more, visit www.supra.com/blockworks - - Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

Michael Anderson

Co-founder

Framework Ventures

Avichal Garg

Co-Founder and Partner

Electric Capital

Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and special guest Avichal Garg from Electric Capital dissect the latest trends in the crypto world. This episode dives deep into the buzz around EigenLayer’s airdrop: What sparked the controversy and how did EigenLayer respond to community backlash? We then explore LayerZero’s unique self-reporting strategy to combat Sybil farmers and analyze Friend.Tech’s bold, no-VC token launch. The discussion heats up with a look at ConsenSys’ proactive lawsuit against the SEC, setting the stage for a showdown over regulatory clarity. We also delve into Robinhood’s decision to challenge the SEC’s Wells Notice amidst soaring earnings, and tackle the ongoing debate between VC-backed tokens and memecoins: Which is captivating the market? Finally, we predict the future of SocialFi and its potential to revolutionize the crypto landscape. Join us for an insightful exploration of these pivotal topics shaping the cryptocurrency ecosystem. Show highlights 🔹 Breaking down the EigenLayer airdrop controversy and its impact on the community. 🔹 Exploring LayerZero's self-reporting mechanism to combat Sybil attacks. 🔹 Assessing Fantasy Top's growth and its significance in the NFT trading landscape. 🔹 Predicting the trajectory of SocialFi and its potential to reshape the crypto landscape. 🔹 Detailing Consensys’ proactive lawsuit against the SEC over regulatory clarity. 🔹 Robinhood's SEC Challenge and analyzing Robinhood's decision to fight the SEC’s Wells Notice amid record earnings. 🔹 VC Coins vs. Memecoins: Exploring the ongoing debate about the dominance and appeal of VC-backed tokens versus memecoins. 🔹 The Future of SocialFi: Predicting the trajectory of SocialFi and its potential to reshape the crypto landscape. Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly  ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly  ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures Guest ⭐️ Avichal Garg, Co-Founder and General Partner at Electric Capital. Disclosures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Avichal Garg

Co-Founder and Partner

Electric Capital

On today's episode of Empire Haseeb and Avichal return to Empire to discuss crypto in 2024. They debate whether we're entering a bull market and analyze key indicators like retail engagement, institutional flows, and blockchain development activity. The majority of the conversation focuses on a debate of the EVM versus alternative chains like Solana, Monad, or other virtual machines. They also touch on the sustainability of meme coins, and whether major consumer apps will emerge this cycle. They close out by discussing crypto's scalability trilemma, the prospect of regional fragmentation, and whether financialization detracts from user experience in areas like gaming. Stay tuned for all of this and much more! - - Follow Haseeb: https://twitter.com/hosseeb Follow Avichal: https://twitter.com/avichal Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Santiago: https://twitter.com/santiagoroel Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Subscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2j Subscribe on Apple: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7 Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Arbitrum is a game-changer for daily Ethereum's users and developers, offering top applications and lower fees. As the leading scaling solution with 600+ apps, explore Arbitrum’s Portal to find your perfect fit. Interact with the home of DeFi, a flourishing NFT and creator ecosystem, and a rapidly growing Web3 gaming hub – Arbitrum has it all.  Get started at: portal.arbitrum.io  - - Harpie is the most advanced on-chain security solution for monitoring and protecting your crypto wallet from theft in real time. Harpie detects, blocks, and recovers compromised assets from malicious transactions before they execute, and is the only security tool to also protect users from off-chain signature attacks like the recent Ledger Connect Kit exploit. Secure your wallet for free at harpie.io. - - Join us at DAS (Digital Asset Summit) in London this March! DAS is the #1 institutional conference in crypto, hosted by Blockworks. Use the link below to learn more, and use EMPIRE10 to get 10% off your ticket! Sign up now because the price goes up every month. See you there! Learn more + get your ticket here: https://blockworks.co/event/digital-asset-summit-2024-london/home - - Timestamps: (01:48) Where are we in the cycle (07:28) Allocation Decisions and Mindset (11:30) Sentiment Outstripping Fundamentals (20:23) Developer Report & Performant Chains Exposure (29:49) Market Structure of Virtual Machine Adoption (42:21) EVM Landscape Prediction (56:26) Arbitrum Ad (57:13) Harpie Ad (58:28) Can Solana Overtake Ethereum? (01:09:00) The Big Consumer App (01:25:28) Speculation vs Social Experiences (01:31:15) Meme Coin Perspective - - Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

Haseeb Qureshi

Managing Partner

DragonflyDragonfly Capital

Avichal Garg

Co-Founder and Partner

Electric Capital

Nothing tests your conviction like a bear market. This is an opportunity to test what you think you know, refine your thesis, and make your bets for the next leg up. Avichal and Sanjay are long time crypto investors and at VC fund electric capital. What are they betting on during the bear market? We discuss 5 of the most pressing questions facing crypto investors during the bear market including… 1) L2 tokens - Are L2 tokens they worth something or they just worthless governance tokens? 2) AltL1s…Will the ETH killers make a comeback? 3) Multichain world - Millions of L2 chains or a few big winners? 4) Restaking - big deal or overhyped? 5) What Avichal things are this cycle’s alt-coins. Episodes like this are an opportunity to sharpen your insights as a crypto investor. Don’t take these ideas as gospel. Wrestle with them. Test them. Make them your own. We’ll have other Bear Market Bets episodes with other perspectives, so this isn’t the last. ------ 🚀 Join Ryan & David at Permissionless in September. Bankless Citizens get 30% off. 🚀 https://bankless.cc/GoToPermissionless  ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🐙KRAKEN | MOST-TRUSTED CRYPTO EXCHANGE https://k.xyz/bankless-pod-q2 🦊METAMASK PORTFOLIO | TRACK & MANAGE YOUR WEB3 EVERYTHING https://bankless.cc/MetaMask  ⚖️ ARBITRUM | SCALING ETHEREUM https://bankless.cc/Arbitrum 🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle 👾POLYGON | VALUE LAYER OF THE INTERNET https://polygon.technology/roadmap  ------ Timestamps 0:00 Intro 8:00 L2 Value Capture 15:12 How Rollups Make Money 20:20 Harmful vs. Good MEV 25:00 Transactions Fees & L2s 38:05 Are L2s Valueable? 40:00 Multichain L2s or Few Winners? 43:05 Multichain Applications 49:09 Multichain Friction 59:02 Are NFTs Dead? 1:06:45 Investing in NFTs 1:10:00 RSA’s Worst Fear 1:15:10 Ethereum Killers & Modular/Monolithic Chains 1:19:22 L1s Playing the Monetary Premium Game 1:22:00 RSA vs. Avichal Moneyness Debate 1:24:30 Is Restaking Overhyped? Risky? 1:29:35 Crypto’s Antifragileness & Are We Lost? 1:33:40 Closing & Disclosures ----- Resources Avichal Garg https://twitter.com/avichal  Sanjay Shah https://twitter.com/sanjaypshah  Read https://mirror.xyz/electriccap.eth/SD0wT7qSSfis9gLT_Ki1gY6_oTYEqgwcGE0hDw7kMDY https://www.developerreport.com/developer-report  ------ Not financial or tax advice. This channel is strictly educational and is not investment advice or a solicitation to buy or sell any assets or to make any financial decisions. This video is not tax advice. Talk to your accountant. Do your own research. Disclosure. From time-to-time I may add links in this newsletter to products I use. I may receive commission if you make a purchase through one of these links. Additionally, the Bankless writers hold crypto assets. See our investment disclosures here:  https://www.bankless.com/disclosures⁠

Avichal Garg

Co-Founder and Partner

Electric Capital

Sanjay Shah

Partner

Electric Capital

Today we are joined by Avichal Garg and Haseeb Qureshi to explain their investment frameworks and why their crypto thesis hasn't changed. We talk about the US crypto exodus, mental models for investing, why TAM (total addressable market) is useless, investing in private vs public markets, what crypto got wrong and more! - - Timestamps: (00:00) The SEC, Binance and Coinbase: We Ripped the Bandaid Off (09:38) How Does This Affect Your Investment Decisions? (17:00) Mental Models for Investing (20:44) Value Creation vs Value Capture (23:33) Why TAM is Meaningless (28:19) Crypto’s Most Important Applications (31:06) How to Evaluate a Projects Potential (35:15) Bullish Decentralized vs Centralized Projects? (43:48) Thales ad (44:44) Carbon Ad (46:26) The Investment Environment, Layoffs and Shrinking Runways (01:06:01) Startups vs Liquid Tokens (01:11:38) What Crypto Got Wrong (01:16:53) Value Accrual: Should Protocols Flip the Fee Switch? - - Follow Avichal: https://twitter.com/avichal Follow Haseeb: https://twitter.com/hosseeb Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Santi: https://twitter.com/santiagoroel Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Subscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2j Subscribe on Apple: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7 Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/  - - This episode is brought to you by Carbon. Carbon is a new DEX on Ethereum that makes concentrated liquidity easy. LPs can automate their liquidity strategy with custom on-chain limit and range orders: all from a beautiful UI.  Don't miss out on Carbon's "ROI Trading Competition" that's live until July 11! Here’s how to play: Click this Carbon link: https://bit.ly/43Vo2AB Create a new Carbon strategy  Boom. You're eligible to win USDC rewards based on the performance of your strategy - - This episode is brought to you by Thales.  Thales is an innovative digital options platform on Arbitrum and Optimism that gets you exposure to crypto assets in the simplest way possible. As simple as choosing UP or DOWN! Experience the simplicity and power of Thales by visiting https://thalesmarket.io/?mtm_campaign=blockworks today! - - Resources Electric Capital https://www.electriccapital.com/ https://twitter.com/ElectricCapital Dragonfly https://www.dragonfly.xyz/ https://twitter.com/dragonfly_xyz - -  Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

Avichal Garg

Co-Founder and Partner

Electric Capital

Haseeb Qureshi

Managing Partner

DragonflyDragonfly Capital

On Monday, it was Binance. On Tuesday, Coinbase. Electric Capital General Counsel Emily Meyers joins the show to read between the lines of an action-packed week for Gary Gensler’s SEC. Meyers lends her lawyerly eye to the key differences between the two lawsuits, the SEC’s potential strategy, and whether federal legislation will beat the courts in providing clarity.  Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: why Emily thinks the SEC’s actions don’t represent the end of crypto in the U.S. what the similarities and differences are in the lawsuits against Coinbase and Binance why it’s fundamental to the SEC’s allegations that the court determines that at least one of the named tokens is in fact a security whether Coinbase and Binance will file motions to dismiss whether allegations against Binance are comparable to those against FTX whether Gary Gensler’s interactions with Binance in 2019 raise ethical questions about his involvement in the case  why Emily thinks that Gensler’s approach to crypto is not aligned with the SEC’s mission to protect investors why the SEC allowed Coinbase to go public and is now suing them how the SEC sued Coinbase only after the exchange sued the agency first whether the Third Circuit will press the SEC to issue the rules that Coinbase has petitioned for why Emily believes that there’s not an effective path for crypto companies to properly register in the U.S. why the SEC has listed large-market-cap tokens such as SOL, ADA, and MATIC but has not gone after ETH Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Copilot Money Proton Guest Emily Meyers, general counsel at Electric Capital Links Previous coverage of Unchained on the topic: The Chopping Block: Jake Chervinsky on How the SEC Has Lost Credibility These 2 Crypto Trading Platforms Agree With SEC Chair Gary Gensler Coinbase's Legal Action Against the SEC: How It Will Likely Unfold  ‘Is ETH a Security?’ Why Gary Gensler Couldn’t Give Congress a Straight Answer Gary Gensler vs. Crypto: What Will the SEC Attack Next? Rep. Emmer on Why He Believes Gary Gensler Is a ‘Bad-Faith Regulator’ LINKS Unchained: SEC Sues Coinbase for Breaking Securities Laws SEC Files Motion to Freeze Binance’s Assets, Asks for ‘Sworn Accounting’ SEC Files 13 Charges Against Binance Including the Mishandling of Funds, Sale of Unregistered Securities SEC Calls Solana, Polygon, Algorand and Other Tokens Securities but Misses Ether in Binance Lawsuit US House Republicans Propose Bill That May Give Crypto Assets a Path to Becoming Commodities Coinbase Seeks to Compel SEC Response to Rulemaking Petition CoinDesk:  SEC Seeks Temporary Restraining Order to Freeze Binance.US Assets Crypto Exchange Binance Says Gensler Once Offered to Be an 'Informal Advisor' Binance Redirected $12B to Firms Controlled by CEO Changpeng Zhao, SEC Says Fortune: Former Coinbase employee and his brother settle with the SEC, which again dodges proving whether cryptocurrencies are securities Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Emily Meyers

General Counsel

Electric Capital

Maria Shen, partner at Electric Capital, unpacks the venture firm’s latest Developer Report. Hotly anticipated among crypto observers, the annual report captures which chains developers are building on. Despite 2022’s price carnage, the report finds developer interest remains strong. Ethereum is the leading chain by far but EVM-compatibility is emerging as a major force in winning developers’ hearts and minds. Shen unpacks Bitcoin’s stability, Terra’s implosion, and many more insights from crypto’s open-source code repos. Show highlights: why the report "undercounts" developers and how it defines active developers how developers represent a fundamental measure of the health of emerging technologies like crypto the meaning of developer numbers going up even when prices plummet why in recent years the speed of developer growth jumped so drastically what happened after the number of developers reached an all-time high in June 2022 the role of Terra in the decline of developer activity in 2022’s second half why Ethereum dominates the ecosystem and whether it will continue to be the leader the benefits of being part of “the EVM universe” why the number of Bitcoin developers has remained flat over the last year whether looking at the number of developers in the NFT ecosystem is even relevant Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Guest Maria Shen: Twitter Electric Capital Developer Report Full report Maria’s 2022 thread 2021 report 2020 report Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Maria Shen

General Partner

Electric Capital

In this episode of Empire, Avichal Garg Founder of Electric Capital and Haseeb Qureshi Managing Partner at Dragonfly Capital join the show to discuss the fallout of FTX. Avichal and Haseeb discuss the structure between FTX and Alameda Research, looking behind the curtain into how intertwined the two entities were. We then go on to discuss the potential contagion between large CeFi companies in crypto who could have exposure to FTX and Alemeda. To hear all this and more, you'll have to tune in! -- Follow Avichal https://twitter.com/avichal Follow Haseeb: https://twitter.com/hosseeb Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Subscribe on YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/4fdhhb2j Subscribe on Apple: https://tinyurl.com/mv4frfv7 Subscribe on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/wbaypprw Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Circle’s USDC has quickly become one of the most trusted and widely used stablecoins because of its composability, stability and reserve transparency. As a seamless, trusted digital currency, USDC is a zero-to-one opportunity for the global financial system. Check out their Transparency Hub at http://empirepodcast.link/circle that outlines everything from links to USDC weekly reserve reports, monthly attestations, and blog posts written by their executive team highlighting how and why USDC was built the way it is. - - Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed. Disclaimer: Scammers are impersonating Blockworks and replying to comments on some of our videos. Please be advised that we will NEVER reply to your comment asking you to contact us on whatsapp, telegram, provide investment advice, or solicit money from you. These are scam impersonator accounts and you should not respond to them.

Avichal Garg

Co-Founder and Partner

Electric Capital

Haseeb Qureshi

Managing Partner

DragonflyDragonfly Capital

Avichal Garg is Co-Founder & Partner @ Electric Capital, last month Electric announced they had raised $1BN for their new fund making them one of the largest independent and crypto-native VC firms in the world. As for Avichal, prior to Electric, he was an investor in crypto projects such as Anchorage, Bitwise, Lightning Labs, and OpenSea and unicorns such as Airtable, Cruise, Deel, Figma, Notion and many more. On the operating side, Avichal successfully sold his last company to Facebook where he became Director of Product Management for the Local product group, a team of 400 engineers responsible for billions in revenue. In Today's Episode with Avichal Garg You Will Learn: 1.) Origins into Venture: How did Avichal make his way into the world of startups and angel investing? How did Avichal make the pivot from software to crypto investing? Was Avichal nervous when making the move to institutionalize what had been personal investing? What does Avichal know now that he wishes he had known at the start of Electric? 2.) The Landscape: Crypto Investing How does Avichal assess the crypto fund landscape today? Will we continue to see a small number of firms (a16z, Katie Haun, Paradigm, Electric) dominate the market? What happens to all the small crypto funds that have been raised in the last year? Why does Avichal believe crypto investing is much more collaborative than venture investing? How can venture size returns be made if the ownership levels are so much smaller? 3.) Crypto Firms vs Traditional VC Firms: Why does Avichal believe that crypto is software eating money? What does this mean for traditional venture? Who will survive? Who will die? Who will thrive? Why can generalist firms not compete with crypto native firms? How are the teams of crypto native firms structured so differently to those of traditional VCs? Do crypto projects and investments need the same level of service and help that generalist VCs provide with their platform services? 4.) Tokens - Equity - Liquidity: How does Avichal advise investors on how to think through token vs equity investing? When does it make sense to have a token vs not having a token? How are crypto tokens priced and valued? What do you need to know when buying tokens? How does the liquidity of crypto markets make it challenging for investor psychology? What is the biggest lesson Avichal has learned on when is the right time to sell? 5.) DAOs: 101 What are DAOs? Are they not just another form of government? What makes one DAO successful and another not? What tooling and infrastructure are required to manage a DAO successfully? What does Avichal believe the vision of a DAO should be? How should they define success? Item's Mentioned In Today's Episode with Avichal Garg Avichal's Favourite Book: The End of the World Is Just the Beginning: Mapping the Collapse of Globalization Avichal's Most Recent Investment: Magic Eden

Avichal Garg

Co-Founder and Partner

Electric Capital

On today's episode of Empire Jason Yanowitz is joined by Haseeb Qureshi of Dragonfly Cap and Avichal Garg of Electric Capital. Both are strong voices in the space when it comes to tokenization, metaverse, and multichain futures. With their unique perspectives, Haseeb and Avichal debate the merits of the crypto as cities philosophy, the future of Crypto, what a multichain world will look like & more. -- ParaSwap: If you want to make a swap at the best price across the DeFi market, check out paraswap.io. ParaSwap’s state-of-the-art algorithm beats the market price across all major DEXs and brings you the most optimized swaps with the best prices, and lowest slippage. -- Empire is brought to you by Blockworks, a financial media brand delivering breaking news and premium insights about digital assets to millions of investors. For more content like this, subscribe to Blockworks' free daily newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ Follow me and Santiago on Twitter, @JasonYanowitz and @santiagoroel; let us know what you thought of the show! Subscribe to the podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4UTePv1CR3APdKOiosR3Iq?si=41bc452345b649f9 Subscribe to the podcast on Apple: https://apple.co/3srZf7M

Haseeb Qureshi

Managing Partner

DragonflyDragonfly Capital

Avichal Garg

Co-Founder and Partner

Electric Capital

Electric Capital’s Maria Shen dives into her company’s recently published research report about Web3 open-source development in 2021 and shares her thoughts and insights on how developers are flocking to Web3 in a manner that goes far beyond just Bitcoin and Ethereum. Show topics: Maria’s biggest takeaways from the Electric Capital Developer Report how developer growth is affected by asset price which ecosystems are growing fastest why Maria thinks the growth in Bitcoin development has slowed down why Maria is so impressed by Ethereum’s performance in terms of retaining developers how closed-source development on, for example, Solana or Flow could affect the report’s findings the significance of Polkadot, Solana, NEAR, Binance Smart Chain, Avalanche, and Terra growing faster than Ethereum did at similar points in its history developer growth in DeFi during 2021 why Electric Capital did not study developer growth for NFTs, DAOs, or gaming why Maria is so interested in studying community growth going forward what Maria will be watching for in 2022 Thank you to our sponsors! Avado: ava.do Crypto.com: https://crypto.onelink.me/J9Lg/unconfirmedcardearnfeb2021    Episode Links   Maria Shen https://twitter.com/MariaShen  Previous Unchained appearance: https://unchainedpodcast.com/electric-capital-on-the-coins-punching-below-their-weight/    Electric Capital https://www.electriccapital.com/   Electric Capital Developer Report (2021) https://medium.com/electric-capital/electric-capital-developer-report-2021-f37874efea6d  Previous reports: https://medium.com/electric-capital  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Maria Shen

General Partner

Electric Capital

Avichal Garg is the Managing Partner @ Electric Capital, one of the leading crypto asset management firms today investing in both liquid and illiquid tokens that are emerging stores of value and rooted in novel technology. Prior to Electric they personally invested in Coinbase, Bitwise, Basecoin and more. As for Avichal as well as Electric, he is a part-time partner at YC and prior to YC, he was Director of Product Management at Facebook where he led the Local product team (a $3.5Bn line of business at the time). Before FB, Avichal worked on Search and Ads at Google, started and sold a few companies, and invested in startups including Optimizely, Boom, Color, Cruise, Instawork, CaseText, and many more. In Today's Episode You Will Learn: 1.) How Avichal made his way into the world of startups, began angel investing, discovering the power of crypto and why now for Electric Capital? 2.) How does Avichal break the world of crypto into 4 fundamentally distinct buckets today? Which 2 elements does Avichal believe will be the biggest value accruers? What is the core question to ask when assessing a crypto opportunity today? How does angel investing compare to crypto investing? 3.) Where are the majority of ICO dollars going today? Why does Avichal believe that ICOs in large part do not fundamentally make sense from an investment and pricing perspective? How does Avichal think about liquidity in the world of crypto? As an institutional manager, what mindset does Avichal embrace when liquidity is possible? 4.) Why does Avichal believe that regulation and government controls is the opposite of the real risk to the space? If this is not the biggest risk, what does Avichal believe is the biggest risk to the potential of the space? Why does Avichal believe that the US government have handled the space with nuance and intellect? 5.) Why does Avichal believe that decentralized teams will not work? How does this correlate to the progression of platform complexity with time? Why does Avichal believe this will lead to the re-centralization of talent back to Silicon Valley? What catalysts will act to speed this up or hamper it's re-centralisation? Items Mentioned In Today's Show: Avichal's Fave Book: Ender's Game Avichal's Most Recent Investment: Coda Cryptocurrency Protocol As always you can follow Harry, Avichal and The Twenty Minute VC on Twitter here! Likewise, you can follow Harry on Instagram here for mojito madness and all things 20VC. Are you told your standards are too high, well The League is the app that tells you to keep them that way, they know your time is valuable so simply tell them your preferences and they will handle the scouting and vetting for you. Plus even better, your profile will only ever be seen by people who match your preferences, matches expire after 21 days and so there are no drawn-out games and they even require LinkedIn to protect your privacy and block you from matching with co-workers and business connections. You can apply now by downloading The League on the app store or heading to The League.com Zoom is the fastest-growing video and web conferencing service, providing one consistent enterprise experience that allows you to engage in an a variety of activities including video meetings and webinars, collaboration-enabled conference rooms, and persistent chat all in one platform. Plus, it is the easiest solution to manage, scale, and use, and has the most straightforward, affordable pricing. And you can see for yourself! Sign up for a free account (not a trial!). Just visit Zoom.us. Culture Amp is the platform that makes it easy to collect, understand and act on employee feedback. From onboarding surveys to company-wide engagement, individual effectiveness and more, the platform manages multiple sources of feedback and connects the dots for you and that is why companies like Slack, Nike, Oracle and Lyft all trust Culture Amp. It enables leaders to make better decisions, demonstrate impact and turn your company culture into a competitive edge. Find out more on cultureamp.com.

Avichal Garg

Co-Founder and Partner

Electric Capital