976: Pi - The AI Harness That Powers OpenClaw W/ Armin Ronacher & Mario Zechner
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Wes and Scott talk with Armin Ronacher and Mario Zechner about PI, a minimalist agent harness powering tools like OpenClaw. They unpack why Bash is “all you need,” the risks of agents, workflow adaptability, and where AI coding agents are actually headed. Show Notes 00:00 Welcome to Syntax! 03:28 What is Pi, and why does it matter? OpenClaw 05:54 What do we actually mean by “agents”? 11:04 Prompt injection: how LLMs get tricked 14:19 Is Claude Cowork actually secure? 22:01 How Armin and Mario use agents day to day 26:37 Brought to you by Sentry.io 27:25 Memory and search: teaching agents to remember 33:04 Do coding agents even need memory? 34:36 “Bash is all you need” 37:21 Adding power: how agents learn new tricks 47:02 Tools and models Armin and Mario are using right now 54:15 Sick picks + shameless plugs Sick Picks Mario: Cards for Ukraine Armin: Pro-Ject Audio Turntable Shameless Plugs Armin: Thorsten Ball Newsletter Simon Willison Hit us up on Socials! Syntax: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Wes: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Scott: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Randy: X Instagram YouTube Threads
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