The Stablecoin Chain Wars: Codex’s Bet on On-Chain FX | Cofounder Haonan Li
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Payment chains are heating up. Not every “stablecoin chain” is playing the same game. Codex cofounder and CEO Haonan Li joins David to map the real landscape: what neutrality looks like in practice, why the bottleneck isn’t TPS but fiat-to-stable friction, and how on-chain FX could pull global flows. We dig into the Bear-Chain incentive trap. Why Codex chose to build as an Ethereum L2. The case for app-specific rollups that return value to ETH. And the growing split between projects that bundle value toward Ethereum and those that pull it away. --- 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24 https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium --- BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🪙FRAXNET | MINT, REDEEM, EARN https://bankless.cc/fraxnet 🦄UNISWAP | SWAP ON UNICHAIN https://bankless.cc/unichain 🛞MANTLE | MODULAR L2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle 💤EIGHT SLEEP | IMPROVE YOUR SLEEP https://bankless.cc/eight-sleep 💠BIT DIGITAL ($BTBT) | ETH TREASURY https://bankless.cc/bit-digital We’re being compensated by Bit Digital (NASDAQ BTBT) for this segment promoting their company and BTBT. The compensation is paid in cash as a one time payment. You can find additional information about Bit Digital and BTBT on their Investor page at https://bit-digital.com/investors --- TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 1:10 Codex’s Market Positioning 2:24 How Stablecoin Chains Differ 4:55 Neutrality For Chains And Customers 8:11 Codex’s Focus: Fiat Friction & Wholesale FX 14:16 The Golden Goose: On-Chain Transfers Vs On-Ramps 17:49 Liquidity, Demand, Exotics: The Case For On-Chain FX 24:55 Why An Ethereum L2: Technical & Economic Rationale 32:50 Founding Codex, Contrarian Thesis & Focused L2s 40:23 Community Dynamics, Tempo, Bundlers Vs Unbundlers 1:00:16 Closing Thoughts --- RESOURCES Haonan Li https://x.com/haonan Codex https://www.codex.xyz/ --- Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures
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